US Presidential election 2016

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Infant Jesus of Prague, Dec 4, 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    CRUZ interview with Laura Ingrahm
    ...4 min... Calls out CRUZ for TPP/Obama support. Cruz lies so much, no wonder Jeff Sessions didn't back Cruz

    http://amp.twimg.com/v/3ff9fec0-59a2-4db4-9fea-45620d4cdcc0
     
  2. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    They can't. Sessions knows he's a globalist working for the Bush family.
     
  3. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Dawn, George H.W. Bush named Zapata oil after Mexican communist Emilio Zapata. This family since the Stalin/Hitler days are not patriots. He was no Ronald Reagan.
     
  4. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Hey Infant can you read my posts? I'm not sure it's getting printed. Can you answer me please?
     
  5. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Well, just as I suspected. Again, why did he support Bill Clinton? Why did he say Bill Clinton was a great president? Why did he support him for a second term in 1996, after Clinton signed NAFTA? Please be realistic. This man is taking advantage of uneducated, frustrated working class Americans for his own benefit, not theirs. No one can change that much on all these important issues. Some of you need to look at economic history and see that protectionist policies and monopolies never helped the American worker. Free trade is what made the country great. Read about the American Revolution. We just have to keep the agreements fair. Please read more widely and don't ignore facts that you don't like. Can you please answer my question? Why do you think Trump supported Bill Clinton and all his policies on the economy then, but not now? What is the explanation for this? Here is one possibility. Remember Ross Perot?
    http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/250445-brent-budowsky-is-trump-a-clinton-plant
     
    Beth B likes this.
  6. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    I still don't see any responses to my questions. If you can't dialogue, you don't know how to be a citizen in a democracy. You are asking for a dictator, and it may be you will get one in Trump. If you can't explain reasonably why Trump changed on the war in Iraq, NAFTA, Abortion, Syria, ISIS, you can't say you have a good reason for supporting Trump. The truth exists no matter how rudely one keeps denying it. It is factually established that for Trump, everything he espouses now is the opposite of what he used to. That is the hallmark of a morally feckless person.

    When facts have been established for all to read and one continually refuses to acknowledge them or engage with them, one is not honest his his or her responsibilities as a citizen in a democracy. Please answer my questions, Infant and Richard. Answer them without all-caps, without attacks, and without changing the subject. When facts have been presented in several posted articles over several days, to simply say the opposite, after you already said it, means you lose the debate. Please engage in a civilized conversation. Thanks.
     
    Beth B and AllyinNY like this.
  7. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    I don't know how many times I can ask this one. Infant and Richard have denied that Trump has totalitarian tendencies. It has been requested of them many times now to reconcile Trump's interpretation of eminent domain with their view on this issue. Infant and Richard continually refuse to reconcile those two positions, because they can't be reconciled.
     
    Beth B likes this.
  8. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    AllyinNY and Beth B like this.
  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Dawn....I'm not getting answers from any of them either. My guess from reading their post from last evening and this morning is that they live in an alternate universe.

    As hard as I tried to make sense of their convoluted dialogue with each other, I could not. Although they did converse in English, their conversation felt like another language to me.


    Whatever issues they were trying to convey were unreconizable to me....although they might....might ...have understood each other!

    Lol....so, I'm guessing that I won't be taking seriously anything from them from here on....it's wayyyyyy too out there....kinda sad really.

    I don't suspect that our attempts at normal, respectable, rational dialogue are going to go anywhere with them, but I'll continue to post relevant info for anyone who cares. I hope you continue to do so as well.
     
    Dawn2 and AllyinNY like this.
  10. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Are you both pretending to be this naive? Bill Clinton with Republican Newt Gingrich made some beautiful music together. We had a surplus and no debt in our government. That was HUGE! The debt we have today thanks to both Bush and Obama is our worse national security problem. Both of you either work for the Democrats, or are the perfect example of how scary America has become by how dumb we have become as citizens.
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2016
  11. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Hi Marygar, I don't understand your post. That we are in too much debt is something I also agree with, but no one has said anything to contradict what you say here. Can you help me out? If you mean to say now that Clinton was good for the economy, then I am at a loss, since you disagree with NAFTA.
     
  12. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Nobody is disputing that Clinton made MAJOR mistakes that have contributed to our economic chaos of 2008. His trade policies and his abolishing Glass Steagall were disastrous. But at the time, he was wise enough not to use all our surplus for illegal unending wars that have bankrupted our nation. Please end this. You have to know by now, that Ted Cruz works for the same establishment that is in cahoots with the likes of Clinton and Bush. Even his wife is part of the Council on Foreign Affairs. The North American Union is part of both their agendas. Read up
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2016
  13. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Well, I am not sure that it is a bad thing to have devout Christians involved in those entities. Remember our own faith is a "global establishment", and we catch lots of flack from Protestants who are suspicious of us for just that reason. I want Christians and believers in freedom, democracy and the dignity of the person in these organizations so that they don't become what you suspect they are; it gives us a chance to turn the tide. It assures that our voice is heard. Thank you for clearing things up for me.
     
  14. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee


    Welcome to Team Trump! ... over and over and over again....Trump says FAIR TRADE!
    If ww2 happened today...Hilter would rule the world over.

    You highly educated well informed.... wake up!
     
  15. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    So cool we got Trump speak "decoder rings."...sweet! TRUMP Train : )

    So funny, were called the un educated...LOW info voters. Some truth to this repeated talking point! We TRUMP supporters have pulled the plug on MSM and past Conservative pundits, so YES, we are low on info from the MIND CONTROL peeps...

    Actually, Trump supporters like myself, actually listened to the debates and Trump rallies ( 25 4 me) and know what Trump says. We don't need to read LONG winded articles that tell lies...the Highly educated ,high info folks do I guess...

    If any CRUZ supporter actually paid attention/even watched debates would know CRUZ totally lies about every TRUMP position.... get real 4 a change

    basic Math works folks....


















    Lenin, I believe stated, a lie is spread by a half truth...aka GOPe/ Cruz
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2016
  16. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    counting WI....CRUZ needs to WIN 88% in every State...Cruz is in to try and Stop Trump of 1237....GOPe WILL dump Cruz in 2nd round @ RNC Convention...Clown boy
     
  17. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Well, no, I won't be on team trump, because I can't trust him on trade or any other issue. It is well established he has held the Democratic party's line for most of his life on all issues. He has changed his position on this and all the important positions and it is just not possible that he had an honest change of mind to that extent. It is just to0 convenient that he talked like a Democrat when he wanted favors from Clintons and he talks like a republican when he sees anger and frustration out there that he can tap into for his own ego boost. I have to trust someone who I vote for and Trump is not trustworthy or stable and not fit for the presidency as a result.
     
    AllyinNY likes this.
  18. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Eastern Star anyone?.... round table gals
     
  19. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Eastern Star....lol! Tell it to Heidi Cruz, they are her friends after all.
     
  20. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Cruz is running to be President!

    Donald Trump is running to Make America Great Again!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page