The Warning, Or Illumination Of Conscience

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by summerfields, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. little me

    little me Archangels

    Anyone defending Garabandal as "absolutely, unequivocal truth" may or may not be defending a deception. There is no way to know 100%. I defend my Holy Mother at all times. I do not believe this is from her.
     
  2. JAK

    JAK Archangels

    It's very hard to watch people who disbelieve G wade into this long established thread.

    Nobody minds if some one doesn't believe but if you don't like the hymn, don't sing it.

    However, it is the message of Garabandal that is the most important element and I see that questions are not directed towards deconstructing Mary's words.


    For a long time I have thought that when the miracle occurs, there might be little signs at all of the Marian sites to indicate where we have been blessed by Our Lady's presence. And we will all be very surprised.

    In these times, it is very important not to dismiss anything. Declaring oneself to be right or wrong on anything other than our Faith is a little dangerous. Mary is appearing all over the Earth. We all accept this. She is willing to help us all if we are listening. Be alert and wise.

    All of us are wrong on so very much so before declaring to be on one side or the other, wait. I imagine Big Signs are on their way to help us avoid arguing amongst ourselves. And I believe we don't have much more time. IMHO..Watch and wait.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2016
    Sorrowful Heart and josephite like this.
  3. Glenn

    Glenn Guest


    LOL satanic ??? You are so desperate , now its satanic ? RIDICULOUS !
    Mary’s insistence on Repentance, Confession, Mass, Communion, the Rosary, all indicate that this was of God, for no other explanation is possible. Tell us all how satan is served ,how he benefits from Mary's messages ?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2016
    Sorrowful Heart likes this.
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    Saint Padre Pio, Saint Pope John Paul II, Saint Mother Teresa, Saint Jose Marie Escriva, Saint Madre Maravillas, Blessed Pope Paul VI, Pope Benedict XVI, , Venerable Marthe Robin, Venerable Fr. Ciszek , Venerable Padre Nieto, Cardinal Ottaviani (Vatican Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) , Arch Bishop Carlos Sierra of Madrid, Spain, Arch Bishop Manuel Lopez of Mexico, Bishop of Fatima Joao Venancio, Mother Angelica and others, what was the matter with all of you, you were fooled !! :)
     
    Sorrowful Heart likes this.
  5. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    That's anecdotal evidence and not primary evidence of support. Primary evidence would be a letter signed by Padre Pio or Mother Theresa showing support for Garabandal. I am aware of no such primary documents. And even if they existed, they could not be used as evidence that Garabandal was true. Only the local bishop (or the Vatican) has the authority to rule on the veracity of private revelation. Appealing to the alleged support of Saints is a losing argument, Glenn.
     
  6. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Our Blessed Mother always defers to the local bishop when it comes to private revelation.
     
  7. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    But you act like Garabandal has been proven true. For all you know the Blessed Mother did not appear there and in that case you have been defending a hoax or worse. Until Garabandal is declared worthy of belief it must be viewed through a critical lens.
     
  8. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    Alleged ??? Now that proves my point . I am talking to brick walls ! Mother Teresa & Padre Pio were NOT alleged friends or believers.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 14, 2016
  9. Glenn

    Glenn Guest


    I would rather have spent my life dedicated to spreading and living our Blessed Mother‘s messages of Garabandal , only to find it was not so,
    then to have spent my days trying to discredit and insulting her and her messages,
    only to find out THEY WERE TRUE ! (and having to face her and her Son ! )

    Have all your excuses ready , Mary needs a good laugh.
     
    Sorrowful Heart and IXOYE4me like this.
  10. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    I have nothing to lose, Glenn. You are the one with all your eggs in one basket.
     
  11. Glenn

    Glenn Guest


    YEP, My faith filled basket !
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 14, 2016
    Sorrowful Heart and Carol55 like this.
  12. janet Walton

    janet Walton Angels

    I'm not sure if this has been posted already...

    Conchita received a letter, dated February12, 2007, from Archbishop Carlos Sierra of Oviedo, then the acting Apostolic Administrator for the Diocese of Santander, which read:

    “I want you to know that I am open to receiving and considering all information about Garabandal, and would like to continue—as long as our Holy Father wishes me to serve as Apostolic Administrator—the work that my brothers at the Bishopric have already done in reference to this subject. What I have just done is authorize the priests to go to Garabandal and hold Holy Mass at the Parish, at any desired time, and to administer the Sacrament of Reconciliation to anyone that wishes to receive it. I am sure the next Bishop will promote further studies to examine in depth the Garabandal events and will send the findings to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome. I respect apparitions and have known of authentic conversions. How can we not always feel the need to open our heart to our Mother Mary to tell her that we need her protection, her help, her courage, her hope, her faith and her love when faced with these events! I encourage you to keep maintaining such devotion toward our Mother”.
     
  13. janet Walton

    janet Walton Angels

  14. janet Walton

    janet Walton Angels

    Fr Luis made a great impression on me. He cried out "Miracle" 3 times as the girls were seeing Our Lady. The girls said he was also seeing Our Lady. A short while later whilst driving away from Garabandal he exclaimed in front of witnesses

    "I am so happy. What a favor the Blessed Virgin has bestowed on me. How fortunate we are to have a mother like her in heaven! There is no reason to fear the supernatural life. The girls have given us an example of how must act with the Blessed Virgin. There is no doubt in my mind that the things involving the girls are true. Why should the Blessed Virgin have chosen us? This is the happiest day of my life." Then he bowed his head and died.

    He is known as the fifth seer.
     
  15. You have posted it with your writings, Glenn, "no explanation will suffice" for some people.
    Be at peace, Glenn. It will all be revealed soon.
    Thank you for all you have posted on behalf of Our Lady of Garabandal.
     
  16. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    I never called anyone satan.You already tried that slander before and I corrected you.
    You've got to stop spreading lies, makes you look less credible.
     
  17. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Little me's big brother,
    What I find as proof that Garabandal is authentic is the actual messages to the world, from Our Lady of Garabandal.

    I don't believe the devil would be telling us any of the following things in these messages. In fact I think that if the world complied with these messages the devil would loose souls!

    Our Lady of Garabandal's, first message to the world
    was on October 18, 1961:

    Many sacrifices must be made... much penance must be done... we must pay many visits to the Blessed Sacrament... but first of all we must be very good... already the cup is filling, and if we do not change we shall be punished.
    Conchita, Loli, Jacinta and Mari-Cruz

    Our lady's message of June 18, 1965
    Since my message of October 18, 1961, has not been complied with and has not been made known to the world, I tell you that this is the last one. Before the chalice was filling, now it is overflowing. Many Cardinals, Many Bishops, and Many Priests are on the path of perdition and they take many souls with them. Less and less importance is given to the Eucharist. We should avoid the wrath of God, by our good efforts. If you ask pardon with sincereity, God will pardon you. It is I, your Mother, who through the intercession of St. Michael, ask that you amend your lives, you are already in the last warnings and I love you much and do not want your condemnation. Ask us sincerely and we will give to you. You should sacrifice more. Think of the passion of Jesus.
    Conchita Gonzales
     
  18. Little Me's Big Brother

    Little Me's Big Brother 1.21 jigawatts

    I do admit, I find you a fool. You did not answer any of the things I mentioned. You only (tried) to "square peg/round hole" it again and confuse the situation. SO, until you answer those points, your word is irrelevant.
     
  19. Little Me's Big Brother

    Little Me's Big Brother 1.21 jigawatts

    I don't argue with the messages or even state that its from the devil. I believe this may be from a 12 y/o's imagination and influenced by fellow conspirators.
     
  20. Little Me's Big Brother

    Little Me's Big Brother 1.21 jigawatts

    Ugh... she also defends the Blessed Mother and her son, our Lord Jesus Christ. And you know absolutely nothing about me... nothing so you may want to watch your tongue before you make a noose out of it.
     

Share This Page