The Warning, Or Illumination Of Conscience

I have begun posting a varied collection of information on "The Warning" at my "Our Blessed Hope Board":

http://blessedhope.yuku.com/topic/313/The-Warning-Or-Illumination-of-Conscience

Not finished, it will be ongoing as time allows, but you may find something you haven't seen before.

And you're always welcome to add to it, if you like -- more info, opinions, etc.

 

...I have saved the link to my favorites, and read all of it. I guess the thing always on my mind, when I read about this illumination of conscience, is how it's always followed up with (according to Jesus in prophecy) that it really won't change that many people, and then real trouble starts (paraphrasing). And so, I remain perplexed as to how nearly 7 billion people will experience this miraculous illumination of conscience, all at the same time, and yet it, apparently, will make so little difference that the church will be persecuted (as if it's not already) and the chastisements will follow.

 

Thank you, Mark1, for your response; I'm glad you asked, it's good to share notes on these things.

It's a huge subject (to put it mildly) and of all I have read, I found the materials and personal words from Luz De Maria to be the most compelling for me: I was able to best comprehend what it will be like, and why. Especially the parts I boldfaced in red, spoke to me.

It is being conjectured that The Warning may come this Good Friday, March 25th. If it doesn't, hey, it wasn't my prediction -- that is Ronald Conte's opinion, and the like opinions of a few other experts on the subject.

But really, it would make perfect sense: He suffered what I call the infinite magnitude for all our sins, and on that day of crucifixion, it would only be right and just if we were each made to suffer acknowledgement, comprehension, and heartfelt remorse over our personal sins.

If we, each time we go to Mass, transcend Time and stand at the foot of His cross to accept His Body and Blood for our forgiveness, then that original day of the crucifixion, He could have stood with us on this Good Friday (or whenever it comes, present or future), to share His experience with us. We will feel it. A terrifying Grace.

According to Luz De Maria, I hear that we will each feel the absence of God-With-Us (Think: "My God, why have You abandoned Me?"), as we are made personally and acutely aware of our need for a Savior for our sins, and how empty -- abysmally depleted -- our lives would be without Him. Nothing like having The Truth revealed to us for a saving experience. Talk about being "born again".

As I am understanding it, there is a reason that The Warning will have limited lasting effect. As Jesus told in the parable of the seeds falling onto different soils, for one thing, the Illumination of Conscience will work its best on those who have their soil ready and prepared.

Those people on earth who are temporarily misguided, but well-meaning, will be able to take The Warning on board and respond.

Those who, at least, have eyes to see, will be able to consider accepting the Will of God.

Those who are looking for loopholes, will always find them.

Here's the catch.

Our Adversary, the Antichrist in the world, already has this event planned-out. He knows it's coming. The entity who is our Antichrist, is out there, merely waiting for the go-ahead from God to unleash his plans.

He is going to come out onto the world stage -- masked as a humble, beneficial good guy * -- and declare himself the real Christ who brought us this "enlightening experience", and he will be changing all the terms around to deceive people into discarding the traditional Christian faith -- our Catholic faith, especially included. I've already read his plans, complete with the help of the "Space Brothers", aka "Ascended Masters" -- they're on the web, enough of them. People are going to be suckered right into it, IF they do not already have a firm Christian grounding -- and how many people "out there" do?

Relatively speaking, hardly any.

* Eventually, the beneficial good guy will show his true colors and persecution will begin in earnest. The topic of The Warning rolls into the topic of The Antichrist... another story.

You need to have that Christian grounding now, and preferably a Catholic grounding, because that's where the fullness of revealed Truth is, and our Adversary is going to lie like a rug, in ways Modern Humanity will prefer to hear. That "tickling of the ears" is getting ready to go on stage.

It is not Jesus' fault that the Faith has been lost, that it has barely been taught even at Church. And I'll dare to voice it: for all their very best, heartfelt intentions, the "protesting denominations" have had stolen from them a lot of holy Truth.

This event will be the greatest event in history, it will be the greatest Mercy. It will not be wasted, but it will be as effective as the soil -- hearts -- it lands upon: seeds onto the soil, whatever quality soil that is.

The Warning will do double duty of refining our "test" -- what kind of soil do you have?

Once the Warning effects cool, and all the "stops have been pulled out" to let the Deceiver run rampant (imagine Job's trials on steroids), we each have to prove ourselves as never before. (Lord, have Mercy.) By then we can no longer claim ignorance, we will know. That's one of the keys to The Warning.

It won't be a game; it's going to be Hell on earth for a while. How long and how strong , is up for debate. I'm hoping for Charlie's word on that, but I am aware that different folks hear different words.

 

Thank you Summerfields for posting this. I know that Ron Conte is not exactly the most popular person to be discussing on this forum, and let me say, I do NOT agree with him setting dates like he always does. Let me say that again. I do NOT agree with him setting dates like he does, however, I find that his reasoning as to the general order of events and what they are, to be firmly grounded in logic and Catholic Prophecy. I also think he does a good job deciphering true prophecy from false.

On another note, you may want to add to your forum what St. Edmund Campion said about the Warning:

"I pronounced a great day… wherein the terrible Judge should reveal all men’s consciences and try every man of each kind of religion. This is the day of change, this is the Great Day which I threatened, comfortable to the well-being, and terrible to all heretics." —St. Edmund Campion (d. 1581), Cobett’s Complete Collection of State Trials…, Vol. I, p. 1063.

 

Thank you, I will make a spot to post that, and I'll welcome anything else recommended.

I read where God (allegedly) asks people NOT to set dates, even for this, although at the same time He always says we should keep our eyes open to the signs of the season. This "Spring" is being suggested a lot.

I disagree with Ron Conte on the A-C, and some other details I've noticed. I just rake it all in and look it over.

 

Ron Conte will be wrong again. March 25th will not be the Warning of Garabandal.

Unless, the Pope gets the express train to Moscow

 

That quote by St. Edmund could just as easily be in reference to the Last Judgement which will be a great day of change: the day when Time ends and we begin Eternity in one of two places.

Although it is comfortable to think that God will grant the World an "illumination of conscience" the fact is that the Church has never spoken of such an event, the Scriptural basis for such an event is very shaky, and private revelation cannot be our guide on this matter.

I certainly would welcome an "illumination of conscience" for the World, but we must also be ready to accept that it may not ever happen and we must be ready to admit that private revelation may be wrong on this matter.

 

A young mum returned to my clinic yesterday with husband and her second baby. I had treated her first baby three years ago and they had been delighted how I had helped get his bowels moving! She is not a practicing Catholic but I think her mum is. We got round to talking about the Aviso of Garabandal. I related to her that when I told my mum (87) about it, mum's response was to say that when she is is shown her sins by God's direct action (and that is the great mark of difference in this event) she will bow her head and say "I am very sorry." The baby's mum said "If everyone does that it will change the world." Quite an insight from the uninformed. Simple, innocent, but beautiful and absolutely right.

 

But if Charlie is right, and I for one believe he is and I trust what he says, then the Blessed Mother rescues us from the Storm late next year. If the Garabandal Miracle is going to be in April of an even-numbered year, as Glen assures us it will, then 2018 is too late. The Miracle would have to be in April of this year. So, the Warning could be anytime now. I feel that Good Friday would be the perfect day for us all to be shown the reality that we so often don't like to think of: it's our sins that nailed Him to that cross. And what better day to beg His forgiveness for what we'll each be shown?

Whichever day Our Lord in His wisdom chooses, I feel it will be very soon... and not "biblical" soon, either.

 

I read that Mari Loli said the warning, not the miracle, will be in an even year. So that could mean the Warning happening around the end of the Year of Mercy which is November 20th 2016 on the feast of Christ the King (novus ordo) and the Miracle in 2017, that is within one year but not the same calendar year. Charlie's rescue could then still happen in late 2017 as he has been told. If so, it seems that the human race will not take long to return to its old ways even after the Warning and the Miracle and the permanent sign. We know the Warning will happen when things are at their worst, there will be terrible persecution and religion will be driven underground by Communist forces. Perhaps not Communism as previously commonly understood by but by its error that teaches God does not exist and/or that man does not need God, neither to serve nor to follow. We are told that events will unfold suddenly and unexpectedly and only The Aviso will shorten its days. Not long to go now.

 

Are you sure that the Garabandal Miracle is going to occur in an even-numbered year?

 

In late 2017 there could even be the "rescue" prophesied by Charlie Johnston, but the chastisement is unavoidable. The Warning and Miracle unfortunately is not going to change that.

 

Regarding how "The Warning" might not result in a changed world:

Remember all the New Age groups who are working to promote anti-Christian views of morality, history, and the End Times: Some are teaching that the Ascended Masters (aliens) will come and take those away who are prepared for their lessons; others teach about a day of change for the whole world, but do it in such a way as to negate any Christian messaging in it. When the media start the news cycle talking about the event that people worldwide experienced less than 24 hours ago blah blah blah, you can expect maybe ONE Catholic priest among dozens of "experts". This priest may not have even heard of the Warning, so he would not be able to guide all the people gathered around the TV. His would be one voice among dozens of psychiatrists, scientists, and so on, giving their increasingly bizarre explanations, trying to fit this event into science. After that, the media will turn to the New Agers and eventually the shamen to explain and describe what just happened.

The Warning will be a "get off the fence" moment for the world. It's just that not everyone will get off on the right (safe) side of the fence.

 

I remember that the Garabandal visionarys have stated 'that everyone will know that it is from God!'
But I suppose some people have a strange understanding of God so therefore what you say may be a reality. Which is extremely sad to say the least!

 

What specifically does the 'rescue' in Charlie's message mean? The end of tribulation? The moment the elect are protected under the mantle of Mary? What?

This is what I like about Verne Dagenais messages from our Lord. They are very specific and direct as you can see.

Once again, I feel God has revealed some of the specifics of what takes place prior to and after the warning in his messages to Verne Dagenais in GSWYL http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen Even without God's messages to Verne, one can understand that after the warning everyone will need to make a choice of God or anti-God. The lines will be drawn. It will be impossible to be a fence sitter after you have the illumination of conscience.

10-05-07 A.M. My son I want you to do the following things for your Lord and Master:
1. Trust in me only for 100% of your family’s needs: physical and spiritual.
2. Study my word. It will be your means of survival. Stop studying the things of this world.
3. Live your life like mine and my Mother Mary. Make all your activities a witness to others of my divine life residing in your soul.
4. Do not believe the lies of Satan. Quote my word to him. He cannot stand the truth. Memorize especially the 10 commandments and the two great commandments.
5. Continue to go to confession and receive the Holy Eucharist.
6. Let your whole life be a life of prayer. While at work, with your family, and studying my words. Allow me to be a part of all your activities.

You have been blessed and given the graces to endure the trials, temptations, and deception to come your way. My peace be with you. Remember, your family has been entrusted by my Father, to my mother Mary for your care and protection. I am always with you and will never leave you now or in eternity. I will warn you once more. Let goof your attachment to worldly goods, for great changes are coming to your family and all my faithful. It will seem as if the ungodly do prosper. For the ungodly will only prosper by taking the mark of the beast to their eternal damnation. My faithful will receive all their needs from God Almighty. Remember my message to you from 4/07. Elijah and the widow of Sareptha survived for 3 1/2 years only by my divine grace and intervention. So it will be with you and your family. To answer a question for you: all who take the mark of the beast are forever cast into hell. This is what my word states. This will occur because mankind will be warned not to follow Satan and the antichrist. By rejecting the warning, you are rejecting God’s mercy and incurring his divine justice. Never before in history has a generation received such graces. Only at the general judgment is an ungodly soul aware of his sin committed against my commandments. But the warning will occur where every soul will experience a preview of their judgment if it had occurred at that instant. Then each soul will be given an opportunity to repent. Mercy will stop for many because all flesh will truly know I exist. After the warning, by accepting the mark of the beast, you will be condemned to hell because you have rejected my mercy in its fullest expression. My son, I give you a private prophecy. Share it at my leading. The antichrist is rising to power as I speak to you. He is hidden until revealed according to my Father’s will. Many natural disasters have and will continue to occur. Then you will experience the warning. After the warning, rejecting my mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beast. You will then experience the abomination of desolation and a fierce persecution of my faithful Catholics by: lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate, and the followers of the antichrist. After my two witnesses battle the forces of Satan, you will see my two witnesses killed and taken up into heaven. Woe to those who are alive during those days. Without my mercy, no flesh would survive. My Father’s wrath will be unleashed on the ungodly and sinner. I will then, with the brightness of my coming, cast the antichrist and his followers into hell forever. As a result, the world will experience 3days of darkness and my creation purified of evil. Nature and my people will be healed. Then my son, the era of peace will take place where my faithful will be resurrected and rewarded in the first resurrection. My faithful will receive glorified bodies. Those who survive the days of tribulation will be able to live out their lives in peace. Once this era of peace is over, Satan will attack my New Jerusalem, the church, as the Prince of Gog in Ezekiel 38, 39. The length of time of the era of peace has not been revealed to mankind.

Time will be no more, as you know it. The final act of Satan will bring about the end of human history. I will return in the flesh to bring judgment on mankind. I will separate the sheep from the goats. The righteous will inherit eternal life with glorified bodies, and the sinners will be cast into the pool of fire with Satan forever. Purgatory will be emptied at the last judgment. This is a brief outline of events to give you hope and trust in your Savior. The time for the events to begin is now in your human time, not years in the future. Trust in me, my son, and I will bring you to the times of refeshment. Finally, the next several years will be difficult financially and spiritually for you, my son and my remnant, if you do not completely trust in me. This message is from Jesus to my son who has been faithful in a few things. Keep a copy of this message with you and watch as the events take place. Praise my Father, myself, and the Holy Spirit, for revealing these truths to you. For you have been blessed by the Lord. Amen

 

And part of his final message to Verne:

11/06/07 The Mark of the Beast
My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the antichrist to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls.

I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul. Prepare your soul now. You may meet your maker today. I do not promise you tomorrow. Receive my graces today through the sacraments instituted by myself and given to my church. You will need my divine life in your soul prior to the warning, to be my witness to the world. After the warning, many souls will need instruction. Many of these souls will be spiritual babies and will be taken home, after the warning. If you desire to enter my era of peace, you must be progressing through my merits and graces to spiritual adulthood, when the warning takes place. This is my final message from this messenger for my people. For I am the same yesterday, today, and forever. The time is short. Jesus Christ has spoken to you today. Take heed tomy words. Amen.

 

You should consider that when the sign will occur in the place of apparition in Medjugorje, many will kneel before the sign, but few will really believe it or convert. These are the words from Our Lady in Medjugorje.

 

Where is the Great Monarch in those prophecies?

 

Good question Pijon. My assumption would be the period after the Warning and Miracle, but prior to the 3 days of darkness before the 'new earth' as Francine calls it comes.

 

There is a preliminary meeting of Orthodox leaders starting today to prepare for the first ever Orthodox Council to be held later this year. I wonder if Patriarch Krill of Russia will request to meet with Pope Francis as a follow-up to this meeting.

Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!