I would like to start this thread, with a warning of my own. Before anyone thinks that I am talking about you and what you have said in any of your posts on the forum - I am not - I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all your posts and I am not condemning or judging any of you. I am simply conveying what I have learned throughout the years whether that be right or wrong it is up to each one of you to judge for yourselves. The Warning I have always listened to so many people getting so excited about the warning and when it would come. Every year there are people expecting this year is going to be the year of the warning. And so it goes on year after year. In reality the warning will not happen until the time God has designated for it. But we should always be in preparation for the warning as we should be in preparation for our death and judgement. So many people do not realise what the warning is. So many believe that we will see ourselves as God sees us and the world will be converted. Sadly this is not the reality of the way things will be. Yes we will see ourselves as God sees us but the world will NOT be converted. So I ask the question: why will the world not be converted after seeing the power of God and the way that we offend him? The answer to this is very simple; there are three groups of people who live on this Earth. The first group are those that if they died this minute they would go to heaven. The second group are those that if they died this minute would go to Purgatory. The third group are those that if they died this minute they would go to hell. It is sad to say, there are more of the third group who live upon this Earth at this present time. Remember Our Lady showed the children at Fatima that the amount of people that were entering hell was like a great snow storm there was that many every day!!!! So when the warning comes, those that would die and go to heaven will become the Warriors of Love in this world and the time of miracles will begin through them. Those that would have died and went to Purgatory, will run seeking God so that they may improve their lives. Those that would have died and went to hell will not accept what God has shown them and will become angry with him, his ways and his people and so the great revolt will begin in earnest. Those people will allow lucifer to twist their thinking into believing that it was the devil that sent the Warning. We the ones who believe in the truth of God will become their enemy. So Scripture will come to pass…the day is coming when they will kill you and believe that they are doing God a service. I can remember many years ago, I was asking Jesus about the Warning and he said to me, my son prepare much for the Warning that My Mother has spoken of for it will be either a time of great joy for you or a time of great sorrow. It is up to you in the way that you prepare. In other words he was saying, I must die to myself and see how my sin offends him. It is human nature to justify the small sins within our lives because they have become an everyday part of us and so we refuse to see them as sin. Lies, gossip, impure thoughts, jealousy, pride, anger, covetousness, greed and materialism, I could go on but we all know ourselves what we try to blind ourselves to. Jesus said read the signs of the times and you will understand. We all understand by reading the signs of the times that we are in the last days and so I must ask myself the questions. Do I love my neighbour not just those ones that love me but even the angry and spiteful ones? For Jesus said we must love our enemy do good to those who persecute us. I know I must become a vessel of love always willing to help those who are in need even to the detriment of myself. I worry that I could be killed or badly injured trying to help those who are dangerous people. So I must go out in total faith believing in Jesus words, if any man loses his life for my sake he will gain life eternal. We do not wish to hear this but look at the Apostles. Were they not martyred in the service of Jesus? Look at many of the Saints and early Christians were also martyred in the service of Jesus. Things have not changed, we must stop worrying about ourselves and begin to see what Jesus is asking of us in truth and love his children instead of ourselves. Many of us do not wish to hear of the things that will happen. We do not wish to hear about chastisement messages because of fear, so we blind ourselves to what is to come, by condemning those prophets that do not suit our thinking. I must remember that Gods Justice is his Love and so it is Holy and so the Chastisement is not to be feared by those who believe and trust in him. Our job in this present time, is to love and not to worry about tomorrow, tomorrow will look after itself, today is what we must concentrate on. I must be willing to go out into this world and spread the love of Jesus and his mother to all that I meet. This can be as simple as saying hello to someone and smiling at them. Now after looking at these things, I must ask myself. Am I prepared for the Warning? Am I prepared to look upon myself as God looks upon me? Do I blind myself to what Jesus and Mary is asking of me? Do I only pick and choose and believe the messages that I like and that I can twist to fit into my own selfish thinking? Do I condemn their messengers that they have sent to warn me because the messages do not suit or fit into my way of thinking or lifestyle? Am I self-righteous when it comes to my belief in God and believe that my thinking is true and everyone else is wrong. Am I really prepared to see the truth about myself when the Warning comes? I have a lot of questions to ask myself and a lot of things to change in my life before I am prepared for the warning.
Continued False prophets False prophets are one who teaches against the truth of God. Many times we who believe in Jesus blind ourselves to false prophets because we become so consumed in our own knowledge and self-righteousness and so miss the real false prophets. If someone says they are receiving messages that I do not agree with and are falling outside the teaching of Jesus then I simply ignore them and pray for that person. So they are not the wolves in sheep's clothing, they were too easy to discover. Which brings us to the question, who are the wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus warned us of. There are so many false prophets in sheep's clothing in this world that go unchallenged and it is they who are destroying the faith and morals of Christianity. As I have said in a previous post in the thread (true and false prophets) one of the greatest false prophets is the television as it pumps out its lies, deceit and sin and slowly breaks the faith and morals of us, the people, down. There are also those false prophets that our lady warned us of in Garabandal and la Salette. These are more serious false prophets for they wear the priestly garb of the church. When a priest stands on the altar of God and tells the people things like: The Holy Eucharist is not the body and blood of Jesus but only a symbol!! You do not need to go to confessions simply kneel down and tell Jesus your sins!! That Jesus did not walk on the water but he walked in a shallow place!! That he did not feed the 5000 but taught the people to share their food!! When we are told that we must believe in mother god and not that God is our Eternal Father! When things like enagrams and rekhi are promoted in the parish by the priest which are not Christian! When Scripture is changed in order to accommodate feminism and homosexuality! We are not allowed to say man, we have to say person or human in order not to offend women. We are the species of man which is not an insult to women. When a priest is asked to sign a petition against abortion and the priest replies, give me a better alternative and I will. These are only a few of the false teachings that I have heard. These are false prophets teaching against the faith and morals of the holy Roman Catholic Church. As our lady has told us in the message of la Salette "Priests, my Son's ministers, priests, by their evil life, by their irreverences and their impiety in celebrating the holy mysteries, love of money, love of honor and pleasures, priests have become sewers of impurity. Yes, priests call forth vengeance, and vengeance is suspended over their heads. Woe to priests, and to persons consecrated to God, who by their infidelities and their evil life are crucifying my son anew! The sins of persons consecrated to God cry to heaven and call for vengeance, and now here is vengeance at their very doors, for no longer is anyone found to beg mercy and pardon for the people; there are no more generous souls, there is now no one worthy of offering the spotless Victim to the Eternal on the worlds behalf. Also in Garabandal: Many Cardinals, many Bishops, and many Priests are on the path of perdition and they take many souls with them. Our lady told us at Garabandal that these things would come about when it would be hard to find the holy mass being offered. When we look at what she said in the message of la Salette it becomes frightening what this world must go through to be purified …there is now no one worthy of offering the spotless Victim to the Eternal on the worlds behalf.
Continued The spotless Victim is Jesus in the Eucharist. I hear so many people standing up for priests that are blaspheming of the altar. I also hear so many people condemning those good priests that stand up for the truth of Jesus and these people say things about the Priests like they are all perverted or they need to change with the times, they are old-fashioned. The word of God is the same yesterday, today and forever. The word of God does not need to change it is we who need to change our lives. When Our Lady appeared at mount Melleray Grotto, Ireland in 1985: she told us: THE WORLD MUST IMPROVE AND THE WORLD MUST BELIEVE. IF THE WORLD DOES NOT IMPROVE THE DEVIL WILL TAKE OVER THE CHURCH . And again shortly afterwards:IF THE WORLD DOES NOT IMPROVE THE DEVIL WILL TAKE OVER GODS CHURCH IN TEN YEARS . Mary has given us so many warnings that many times we choose to blind ourselves to because they do not suit what we think and purport to know. The one thing that I always used to use to justify my own interpretations was that, Jesus said the gates of hell shall never prevail against my church. If we care to open our eyes and look it appears that the gates of hell are prevailing against his church. Then again if we look at it now in truth the gates of hell are not prevailing against his church but the men who purport to be the leaders of the church Cardinals, bishops and priests the gates of hell are prevailing against them. Just as the gates of hell prevailed against the priests, scribes and Pharisees who crucified, Jesus Christ the Son of the Eternal Father, the Messiah. The church of God can never be destroyed for it is the power upon this Earth it is the Word of the Eternal Father. It has been created by the Creator and the created cannot destroy that which the Creator does not wish to be destroyed. It was Jesus in his free will that Created the Church and so it cannot be destroyed. We humans however can choose whether to follow the teachings of Jesus or not in our free will and so we can allow the gates of hell to prevail against us and in so doing we can be destroyed for all eternity in the eternal fires of hell. Priests need many, many prayers and sacrifices offered for them for they are constantly under attack from lucifer. If lucifer gets one of us he has got one person but if he gets the priest he also gets the flock. So we can see the reality that lucifer is hunting the priests in order to get the flock. This is why Our Lady is asking, no, begging us to pray and offer much sacrifice for our priests. There are so many false prophets in this world teaching us to change our thinking towards God and his laws and as you see from the few that I have mentioned. We do not want to believe these are the false prophets that God spoke of. Prophets, visionaries and seers are standing out and are so easily judged by us in what they say so they are the easy option give our attention to. But as we see these could not be the wolves in sheep's clothing. The wolves in sheep's clothing have to be more subtle. Like the television, bad Cardinals, bishops, priests, governments, schoolteachers who do not teach our children the truth. I do not need to mention more because I'm sure you can begin to see what we are all up against. We are totally surrounded by wolves in sheep's clothing. I am being taught by Jesus to look past myself and my own self-righteousness (which I am still fighting against) for many years now and when I look at this world in truth I can see we are living in very evil times that I do not really want to admit to. In these times the true false prophets go unnoticed and are able to freely move through the people of God convincing them that they are old-fashioned and need to move with the times. It is true to say that many times we sit in our holy huddles discussing what is right and wrong, while the children of God who are in need fall to the lies of lucifer and so are lost to the eternal fires of hell. Now the big question is: Am I truly prepared for the Warning to come?? If this is what God will show me, that I have been responsible in my complacency and self-righteousness for the spiritual deaths of his children that I could have helped and did not help. Am I willing to go out and help those children of God who are in need by my example?? Well I suppose I could always wait and see what the warning will show me. But I for one am not brave enough to take that gamble. God bless you. I love all of you in Jesus and Mary.
The Warning will obviously be an unimaginably frightening event for all except a few hidden saints. However if we, who anticipate the Warning, pray the Rosary, attend Mass whenever possible and do good works as far as we can, then we can hope to be the 'walking wounded' after the event and will, hopefully, be able to help those who have ignored God and to whom the event will come as an even more terrifying shock.
SteveD, I can feel the love you all have for Jesus and Mary on this forum. I dont think it will be a "an unimaginably frightening event" for those who love God, so dont worry. If we try our best to die to ourselves and see Jesus in all thoses that we meet, it will be an event of great Joy for all of you . Jesus is such a Loving Friend, every thing that He will send The Warning, His Justify it is His Love and sent to help us and if he so chooses to take us in death, we are only going home to Him.
CONCHITA What I remember now is that the Virgin told me that before the Miracle God will be sending us a Warning so as to purify us or prepare us to see the Miracle and in this way we may draw enough grace to change our lives toward God. She told me what the Warning will consist of but not the date. I am not able to say what it consists of but I am able to say what it will be like, more or less. It is a phenomenon which will be seen and felt in all the world and everywhere; I have always given as an example that of two stars that collide. This phenomenon will not cause physical damage, but it will horrify us because at that very moment we will see our souls and the harm we have done. It will be as though we were in agony but we will not die by its effects but perhaps we will die of fright or shock to see ourselves. May the Virgin forgive me if I do not explain it the way it is, but I am trying to tell you ... after knowing what the Warning will be like that day.
I am sorry Bobby, you are right. I should have explained a lot better but my posts always seem to end up so long and I am sure they bore the life out of you all, sorry. What will cause us to be horrified? If we are in sin, we will see our sins as God sees them and this will cause us great distress and great sorrow because we will see how we have made our Beautiful Saviour Jesus suffer through our wickedness. What will cause us to be in great joy? Now as we all know if we go to The Sacrament of Confession and are truly sorry and repentant for our sins we receive his forgiveness. We are washed clean by the Blood of the Lamb. Jesus, Passion and Death on Calvary, when he suffered and died for our sins. Though our sins be as scarlet they will be washed clean by Jesus, the lamb and those sins shall be thrown into the great sea of his forgetfulness never to be recalled. And so we are in a state of grace and should do all in our power to die to ourselves and turn away from sin so that we may remain in a state of grace. Then when the warning comes we will not see our offences but rather we will see the great joy we have given Jesus in doing what he has asked of us. As Jesus has said Luke 11:28 28 But He said, "More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!" Luke 8:21 21 But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." God Bless
I am putting this on more than one Garabandal related thread because I think that it is very important that this is widely read. St. John Vianney prophesied the Warning and the situations that will give rise to it. I know that many who view this site believe or hope that the Warning is imminent. It is not and there is an ABUNDANCE of proof that this is so. The following prophecy was given by no less than Saint John Vianney and is just one example of very many similar prophecies. Not one part of it is yet fulfilled and it cannot occur AFTER the Warning because that event will change humanity for the better so the prophesied events must occur BEFORE it. Here is the prophecy:“The enemy will allow the burning of Paris and they will rejoice at it but they will be beaten. They will be driven entirely from France. Our enemies will return and destroy everything in their path…..but they will be beaten again and retire to their country but very few will reach it.“After this defeat, the Communists of Paris will arise and spread themselves throughout all France and will be greatly multiplied. ….These wicked people will become masters in most of the country. They will imprison and massacre many. They will attempt to kill all the priests and religious but this will not last long. People will believe that all is lost but the good God will save all. IT WILL BE LIKE A SIGN OF THE LAST JUDGEMENT and the good shall triumph. (He is clearly describing the Warning).This is only one of dozens of similar prophecies from saints, blesseds and venerables about wars and civil wars in Europe ending in an intervention from God and a period of peace.DON’T IGNORE THE PROPHECIES OF SAINTS - DO NOT LOOK FOR THE WARNING UNTIL THE WARS ARE AT THEIR HEIGHT, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL THEN.
This is true, Steve, the warning is not today, it is tomorrow and we must concentrate today on preparing for it by the way we live our lives. This prophecy is a very good example of how to look at physical wars and spiritual wars. I am only using this prophecy as an example. I am not saying this is the way that it is. We must discern for ourselves through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This is only an example.This could be the First World War? “The enemy will allow the burning of Paris and they will rejoice at it but they will be beaten. They will be driven entirely from France. ------------------------------This could be the second world war? Our enemies will return and destroy everything in their path…..but they will be beaten again and retire to their country but very few will reach it. ------------------------------- We could say that this is already happening. Has France not lost its once great faith in God? After this defeat, the Communists of Paris will arise and spread themselves throughout all France and will be greatly multiplied. ….These wicked people will become masters in most of the country --------------------------------- Again we could say this is already happening. The Christians in France are not allowed to show outward symbols of their faith such as wearing a crucifix in public and so are imprisoned. Also the faith of the people is being massacred by materialism, wealth, abortion etc etc etc. They will imprison and massacre many. --------------------------------- Look at our priests. Are they not being killed spiritually by things like materialism etc. which is worse than being killed physically. The will attempt to kill all the priests and religious but this will not last long. --------------------------------- When we live somewhere and all we hear is blasphemy being preached. Would we not despair and believe all is lost? People will believe that all is lost but the good God will save all. . IT WILL BE LIKE A SIGN OF THE LAST JUDGEMENT and the good shall triumph. --------------------------------- We have to remember the Jews were waiting on the Messiah and they missed him in the misinterpretation of Scripture and prophecy. We have to stay like open vessels so that God can fill us with his truth. So we must guard against our minds becoming clouded with our own self-righteous interpretations. Again I say this is only an example. God Bless
As I pointed out Pat, this is only ONE of many similar prophecies from the most reliable sources available to us, those who the Church have recognised as Saints, Blesseds and Venerables. They paint a similar picture of the situation at the point that God miraculously intervenes (this intervention must be the Warning because that ushers in a 'period of peace'. These are not MY interpretations but theirs and you must feel free to reject or re-interpret them if you wish. The all say that the miraculous intervention in the affairs of men will not occur until there are wars and civil wars in Europe and an invasion from the east. I believe them. The first and second world wars did not result in: 1. The burning of Paris 2. An army making two separate incursions and losing most of their forces 3. Communists taking over most of France and imprisoning/killing many. 4. The hunting and killing of priests and religious (this has not happened since the French revolution which predates the prophecy). Don't ignore the Saints, it's not wise.
Thank you, StevenD for your great love of the Saints. It is really nice. Very few in these days listen to what the Saints had to say. God Bless
The saints are our sign posts in many troubles.. I know that many times, I turned to the saints in my hour of need. I begged them for prayer, then tried to follow their example. I thank God daily for the saints who inspired us when those around us had stopped living their faith. I can't wait to see the saints that have inspired me and helped me to see that there are indeed true friends of Jesus, and are beautiful because they shine with His love...
Thank you Pat33 for the posts. I am reminded that every dirty and unpleasant jobs around the house, I need to offer up for my parish priests and diocesan bishops. Our Lady has stated to Medj visionaries and others that Priests need our prayers and sacrifices. I have wondered why some prophecies go unfulfilled (Saint Vincent Ferrer preached the Second coming hundreds of years ago and in biblical times the destruction of Nineveh was avoided even though Jonah was told to announce it. I guess God changes His mind based on our response, which only He knows as He knows our hearts. So even though visionaries and Saints are told something that we hold on to, God's Will will be done in His time and way.
Steve, I was just in Ukraine. There were hundreds if not thousands of priests, nuns, monks killed during the 2nd World War. We have some incredible martyrdom in the Eastern Church. In one day all the churches were closed in the Soviet Union. All priests, nuns, bishops etc. were gathered up. Those that did escape hid within families and within communities that were loyal Catholics. There were those who were skinned alive, crucified or given over to concentration camps and tied to fences naked while raw meat was rubbed on their genitals and fierce dogs let loose onto them. Archbishop Fulton Sheen used to tell the story of one poor priest who died a horrible death that way. In Serbia priests were skinned alive during the Bosnian war. We CANNOT discount the persecution of our Eastern brothers and sisters! Fr. Christopher Zugger---http://frchriszugger.com/ has written two incredible books on the subject. One is called ' The Forgotten' and the other is 'Finding a Hidden Church'. http://frchriszugger.com/books/ The Forgotten: Catholics in the Soviet Empire from Lenin through Stalin. (Syracuse University, 2001). This epic work traces the history of Soviet Catholicism from its rich life in 1914 through its tentative fate in the first sixty years of the USSR. Rev. Christopher Lawrence Zugger tells of the faithful men and women shackled by dictatorship, doomed to deportation, and abandoned by their own church in the west. Soviet Russia was an empire born of atheism. Religions, per se, were viewed as a threat to the State’s notion of individualism. By 1932 Dictator Josef Stalin firmly declared that religion would be extinct in the USSR within five years. In this compelling volume, Rev. Zugger details the Soviet campaign against Catholicism among many ethnic groups, several Catholic rites, and devout worshippers whose devotion would not be shaken. The author, himself a Byzantine-Ruthenian Catholic priest, weaves numerous dramas of laymen and clergy alike into one gripping epic of persecution and consequence. He shows how they kept faith alive in prison camps, in remote villages, in monastery prisons, and in the secrecy of their homes, where the light of faith continued to burn brightly while churches crumbled or became dance halls and office buildings. This is the first book in English to recount in detail the fate of Catholic Russia and the Church in the various lands conquered by Soviet rule and its resistance to annihilation. It is at once a memorial to those who perished, a tribute to those who survived, and a testament to the enduring power of faith. Father Chris Zugger’s new book, Finding a Hidden Church, is the result of eight years of interviews and research covering the history of the Ruthenian Greek Catholic church in the USSR and independent Ukraine. Here you will find not only background history of the Church before 1945, but the heroic witness of Blessed Theodore Romzha (killed in 1947), Bishop Petro Oros (executed 1953), Bishop Alexander Khira who died in Kazakhstan, and scores of priests, their wives, their children, and other people who fought to keep their beloved Church alive in a hostile society. Read about the anti-religious attitudes of the Soviet Union, the imposition of harsh legislation, and the rupture of a 1,000 year old culture and Church. Also discover the determination of people to keep their faith in Jesus Christ and Catholicism alive by worshipping secretly at night, in forests, in barns, and how the Church survived with not one legal building and constant harrassment by the feared secret police. Discover the new ways Bishop Khira and underground priests came up with training new priests, establishing forbidden parishes, and nurturing the faith in an incredibly hostile atmosphere. Included are short histories of what happened to the other Byzantine Catholic Churches in the Soviet bloc, five maps, over 70 photographs including some from the dreaded Gulag camps. Be inspired to renew your own faith in God and your own dedication to His Church and to realize that the impossible can be achieved, but only when relying on God’s grace. The book sells for $30, and is available now through Eastern Christian Publicationsor the Our Lady of Perpetual Help Bookstore. Autographed copies are available. Place your order now!
We must use Lent propell us to lessen the painful effects of the warning. Thursday 2/7/13 Conchita turned 64. Each day we have a chance to move closer to God. I also ask that you all pray for priests. I am in communication with a very famous priest who was in the media and that has fallen, gotten married, has children and now is somewhat of a celebrity in another church. Please pray for him and all priests and for me to have the words to make him return home. Also for those that have facebook, this is a great group to join. It is run by someone who is in direct communication with Joey and Conchita. I recommend you all join it for updates. https://www.facebook.com/groups/163674987784/
I have long taken an interest in the terrible things that went on in the East. In Rumania it was, if possible, even worse. Seminarians were forced to drink soup made of the bodies of executed nuns or so it is alleged. However the prophecies I referred to relate to France and were made after the revolutionary murderous attacks on the Church so relate to a later time and have not yet been fulfilled.
