I suppose such a radical act as firing all compromised bishops would mean NO gay friendly new appointees. Necessary for sound orthodoxbishops to be put in charge. Otherwise none of it works. James Martin would not be on my list needless to say.
The symbol represents both. This is how evil operates, using symbolism which is easily recognizable but twisting it with an occult meaning. What is the definition of the word occult. To hide or to make known only to the initiated. Look at the rainbow. They use the rainbow except, they have 6 colors in their version instead of 7 as God made. Think about the symbolism of the numbers... 7 is the number of completion. We must be as wise as serpents but as harmless as doves.
How many pictures of children making those hand symbols do you think they had to go through to find the ones which perfectly represented the diabolical symbolism needed? Why even use children?
The problem I see is that all the emphasis is on covering up the abuse of minors. I think that around the turn of the millennium the mental health experts changed their opinion that paedophiles could be cured. I'm not good at remembering time frames, but I think it was around then that the Church finally got the message and got serious about notifying the police. They never really paid enough attention to what was happening in the seminaries, probably because society didn't regard it as abuse. Even in Hollywood, it's only in the past year that sexual harrassment of women by men has been taken seriously. They still give little or no attention to the issue of same-sex harrassment. It's likely, therefore, that the only Bishops who will be caught in this will be older Bishops because most of the child abuse cases are historical. Newer Bishops who are very lenient on the homosexual culture in seminaries and in the priesthood won't be affected by this. Neither does the latest news from Church Militant fill me with confidence. The head of the CDF is a Jesuit and not even the most atheist of institutions could match the Jesuit colleges in the US (and probably around the world) for their support of the lavender agenda. Anyone taking heart because Bishop Scicluna of Malta is being sent by the Vatican to investigate the situation in the US might want to take note of one of the comments beneath the Church Militant video: "From Malta! What a joke, what has been happening there has been the subject of a petition to Vatican from dozens of priests. LOL". I will be very surprised if this cleans up the homo culture in the seminaries and in the priesthood. There's a very sad exchange in the comments section on Fr. Palka's blog which I'm going to post on the Why Don't the Good Priests Speak Out thread. Every Catholic needs to read it and pay attention. Sadly, many will see it as an attack on the Church or pretend it isn't happening.
Father Palka is a courageous priest who took up his cross IMO. I admire him for exposing the truth as he has and I hope that more follow him but I dare say that sadly I think there will not be more or to be optimistic very few who follow his decision. His words (chosen carefully I am sure) are spot on. His description of the priests and bishops who are propagating such things fits like a glove with the entire Our Lady of Revelation series by Father Wolfe but most especially the parts toward the end which speak of the plague of locusts and the true desires of these men. This is evil and diabolical. Let's not kid ourselves. From his post; "One question that was asked after last week’s homily was, “Why don’t ‘good’ priests and ‘good’ bishops blow the whistle on the abusive priests and bishops?” Many people still don’t (I believe most priests still don’t) understand just how evil the active homosexual or homosexual activist (AH/HA from here on out) priests and bishops are. Not understanding the extent of their depravity and wrongly thinking that they are simply “normal” men who just struggle with their sexual desires and sometimes might fail to remain chaste but are really, truly repentant when it happens and strive to “confess my sins, do penance and amend my life, amen”, they cannot possibly grasp the hellish depths to which the AH/HA clergy will go to persecute, lambaste, punish, humiliate and blackmail anyone who stands in their way or threatens their way of life. Let me be clear. The AH/HA priests and bishops treat their sexual mortal sin as if it is a “good” and a God-given good at that (if they even believe in God, something of which I am very doubtful, at least in the Catholic understanding of Who God is). Nay, more than “a” good, they are convinced that it is “the” good. They will go to any, repeat, any length to force others to engage in it, to accept it, or to, at the very least, ignore it and pretend that it doesn’t exist or that it is not harmful enough to mention or try to eradicate. They do not struggle with their disordered sexual desires as so many others do but rather revel in them." Evil counts on a few basic things, one of them is us not knowing it. Not being able to discern it when it appears or going along with it either in ignorance (until the time it is revealed) or knowingly choosing it as in the case of those who trade wealth, security, sexuality, fame and all the trappings of the prince of this world over truth and taking up our cross and following Christ. Don't be deceived. Recognize it, question and expose it for our Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
I'll try and do that, Dolours. I understand that you are knowledgeable, but you can come across as quite condescending at times.
That description of the militant homosexualist is just about right. Their self-loathing at their own corruption is such that they cannot tolerate those who are not polluted by it and impels them to spread it upon as many others as they can.
Robert Royal has an article on The Catholic Thing about Ireland, I would love to read it but my smart phone won't allow me to open it. If anyone else here comes across it you might be so kind as to copy to this thread, thanks MOG friends.
O Ireland By Robert Royal MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 2018 Ireland seems to have two kinds of weather. Either it’s raining, or it’s about to rain. At least that’s how it’s been the past week as the residual wind and water from Hurricane Ernesto made landfall in the West. I’ve been hiking there – my annual summer strategem to come down to earth is to spend some strenuous days outdoors, as far away as possible from the news cycles and turmoil in the Church and the world. The skies held off enough that we got in a great long loop through the high rocky hills known as the Burren and a simple walk along the Cliffs of Moher. Today it will be the walking pilgrimage up Croagh Patrick. Geologic time isn’t eternity, of course, but when you put yourself in vigorous contact with natural features that have taken hundreds of millions of years to form, it puts human things in different perspective. A very good thing, too, because all this is prelude to the events that will take place later this week in Dublin and Knock. Events (plural), because in addition to the ill-timed and partly ill-conceived World Meeting of Familes (WMOF), there are also various “alternative” gatherings. I myself will give the concluding lecture at one of them in support of the traditional family (along with Cardinal Burke, Fr. Thomas Weinandy, Edward Pentin, and other friends). More about this, I hope, in special reports, later in the week. The WMOF has been rocked, before it’s even begun. The new abuse revelations caused Cardinals O’Malley and Wuerl, scheduled speakers both, to withdraw. Over 10,000 people signed a petition calling for the disinvitation of Fr. James Martin, S.J., well-known advocate of “building bridges” to people with same-sex attractions and other disorders. That hasn’t happened. But the negative publicity probably caused the conference organizers to keep two LGBT groups from renting booths. The excuse: they didn’t know how much space would be available for exhibitors. Nothing to do with Catholic doctrine, of course. A spokesman for one of the groups opined that Pope Francis wants to accept gays, but shadowy conservative forces in the Vatican are stopping him. That’s not at all clear. The pope has urged Italian bishops not to admit men even suspected of homosexual tendencies to the seminary. And has even wondered aloud how so many have entered the priesthood. It’s true that Cardinal Kevin Farrell, a native of Ireland who as head of the Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life was responsible for organizing the WMOF, gave a glowing endorsement to Martin’s book Building a Bridge, saying that it would “help LGBT Catholics feel more at home in what is, after all, their church.” But no. The Church is not theirs – or his, or mine. It’s Christ’s. He and a long tradition have left us pretty explicit instructions about this and many other matters. Pilgrims’ path up Croagh Patrick Meanwhile, Irish gays and dissident women have been publicly lamenting that they don’t mutually support each other enough. Women have been organizing, though. On Saturday, the day Pope Francis arrives, Trinity College’s School of Religion will be hosting an independent event, “Voices Pope Francis Will Not Hear.” But it would be difficult for anyone these days not to have heard these “voices” since they are speaking on progressive subjects so familiar that they’re miles beyond banal: the Church’s marginalization of women, vilification of LGBT Catholics, contraception, abortion, the abuse crisis. The program for the official WMOF doesn’t break much new ground either. Most of the topics seem to be the kinds of things people professionally involved in family work do on a regular basis. No harm in that, of course, and it’s always a good thing when even two or three are gathered in His name. But the Irish just voted, in large numbers, to give themselves the right to kill their own children in the womb. Yet so far as I can see, the word abortion does not appear in the title of any session. None of this seems likely to make a difference to the global crisis of the family – and the global crisis of the Church at the moment. Whether this WMOF is going to have an impact will largely depend on what Pope Francis says and does. His concluding homily at the previous (2015) World Meeting of Families, in Philadelphia, was startling. He turned the Gospel of the day – he who’s not against us is with us – into a rebuke of Catholics being too “narrow.” I was covering the event for EWTN and it didn’t quite leave me speechless – if only because you can’t be speechless live on air. But it was clear – we were in the midst of the two Synods on the Family – that he was trying to stretch things in the directions we’ve since seen him take. There were 40,000 people from all over the world at that event and he did eventually speak, as is his wont, of little acts of kindness and affection within the family, and the larger realities of the covenant between man and woman. But the way he set the tone – introducing ambiguity and even criticism of strong ideas about family – colored everything else. In a similar vein, someone in Ireland or Rome (or both) approved a WMOF banner that is set up in almost every Irish Church this week. It quotes Pope Francis: “How much better family life would be if we used the words . . . Please, Thank you, I’m sorry.” Good counsel, in its modest way. But given the immense and undeniable storms striking the family – everything from legal and cultural norms that encourage easy divorce, the demographic collapse of virtually every developed nation owing to contraception and abortion, the deliberate blurring of male and female, the creeping validation of same-sex relationships within the Church Herself (and the damage sex abuse has done to the Church’s credibility), Ireland – and the world – need a much stronger message. I wonder what we will get?
I do not find it difficult to believe that Churchmen would stoop to murder to cover their crimes. This battle has been waged not by mere men, but by Satan. As Pope Paul VI said, "from some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered into the temple (Church) of God." There has been mystery and whispers of murder surrounding the death of Pope John Paul I. I believe the same probably happened to the real Sister Lucia of Fatima.
It’s just a goofy thing kids do We used to do that in the 50s when I was a child It’s part of making goofy faces at each other and laughing hysterically
HH, I looked up the symbols that you are referring to and I do see what you mean. Personally, I just don't like these vestments very much at all. Adoremus, Thank you for posting this. I find that picture of the children to be a strange choice and maybe there is a hidden message in it idk. The strange thing about things like this symbol on the vestments or the picture of the children that you pointed out is that sometimes it may not be the intention of those who design such things to incorporate a hidden meaning but I think that we often see that hidden messages are there nonetheless. I wonder if it is a coincidence that certain symbols remind us of other things or are we being given a sign or a warning which is very possible in this case. I often think back to this past Christmas nativity at the Vatican, that was a warning imho just look at all that has occurred since then, first in Chile and now in the USA. I do believe that it is all leading up to something possibly the World Meeting of Families or the Youth Synod or both. I also keep thinking of the following scripture, "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth". Josephite, Thank you for posting this. What horror people have gone through including suicide. **** A Comparison of Two Pastoral Responses Posted August 20, 2018 Peter http://complicitclergy.com/2018/08/20/a-comparison-of-two-pastoral-responses/ Many bishops have issued pastoral letters to their dioceses in response to the recent sex abuse scandals. One of the most powerful letters issued to date is from Bishop Morlino of the diocese of Madison. It truly stands-out when compared to letters written by his brother bishops, such as that of Cardinal Cupich from the Archdiocese of Chicago. Take a look at a word count comparison between the two letters. Cardinal McCarrick Scandal Inflames Debate Over Homosexual Priests Fox News / August 20, 2018 Allegations that disgraced ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick engaged in sex with adult seminarians have inflamed a long-running debate about the presence of gay men in the Roman Catholic priesthood. Some conservatives ... **** Edited to add: Padraig, I agree. Throughout the video I kept looking at the rainbow colored mitre Michael Voris has pictured flying over the Vatican and it reminds of a flag flying over the Vatican and the prophecy of such. I think that prophecy is of another type of a flag though maybe communist, I'm not sure at the moment.
I've always said, the Church is also made up of imperfect humans. Some of us make very different mistakes than others. Some commit flatly evil acts.
Look at the way the fingers are positioned. The three fingers in the air and the circle made by the thumb and index finger form three sixes. I'm not making this up, that is what that sign is supposed to mean, and putting it over the eyes makes is supposedly a gesture used by the illuminati, a secret sign. Signalling to one another that they've got this, they are in. As Carol rightly pointed out, this may not even be deliberate but it is surely an odd choice of image out of potentially thousands of kinds of images that could have been chosen instead. Maybe, as HH said, it is just a goofy thing kids do and it is purely co-indicental that it also happens to be a 666 sign used by the illuminati... I doubt it is pure coincidence though. More info: https://zestythings.com/illuminati-signs/
I agree with you that it was meant to be a secret sign, with the three sixes. What I'm asking is: what is the "innocent reason" for kids making the sign to be portrayed on the poster? I hope I'm not being obscure.
