I'm not truly caught up on this thread but I wanted to add the following, ever since I came across www.bishop-accountability.org a few months ago I began to realize how widespread this problem of sexual abuse appears to be in the Church. I say appears to be because much of the data gathered are allegations and have not been tried in any court to my knowledge but a handful of cases, even one case is too much for most Catholics to hear about. This list imho is overwhelming if it is all true and it is absolutely not contained to any one country or any one continent and the fact that these allegations of abuse have been mishandled by various bishops in the Church have only further aggravated the situation, to put it mildly. Here is a recent post from the above website (Please click on the link to the article for additional hotlinks that have been provided), Current Bishops Accused of Mishandling Abuse Cases http://www.bishop-accountability.org/bishops/enabling/ On May 18, 2018, at the end of their week-long summit with Pope Francis, all 31 active bishops in Chile submitted their resignations, a collective acknowledgement of the Chilean church’s “deplorable” handling of child sex abuse by clergy. In a ten-page document the Pope gave to each bishop, he said their treatment of the "open wound” of abuse had caused it to "deepen more in its thickness and pain." In the document’s footnotes, he detailed some of the “grave defects” that his investigators had found in the bishops’ management of abuse: minimizing serious crimes as mere moral faults; "recklessly" entrusting abusers with renewed access to minors; ignoring red flags and "superficially" classifying complaints as "improbable"; delaying investigating or doing no investigation at all; and destroying documents. Such practices are “reprehensible,” the pope wrote. Two weeks later, Pope Francis issued another extraordinary pronouncement, this one a letter to the Catholic people of Chile in which he declared "'never again’ to the culture of abuse and the system of cover-up that allows it to perpetuate …” It was the first recognition by any pope of the systemic cover-up of child sex abuse in the church. Now a pressing question emerges: will the pope extend this scrutiny to countries beyond Chile? As dangerous as its practices have been, the Chilean church is not atypical. We see the same cover-up of abusive priests today, the same disregard for victims, in the Catholic churches of Argentina, the Philippines, Poland, and the United States, as seen most recently in the Diocese of Buffalo NY. Change is occurring in Chile only because that situation caused a public relations debacle for the Pope himself. [emphasis added] The most meaningful measure of the Pope's commitment to "never again" will be whether he systematically investigates mishandling of abuse cases by bishops and religious superiors throughout the universal Church. [emphasis added] To deepen understanding of the challenge facing Pope Francis, BishopAccountability.org presents this sample list of current bishops whose responses to allegations and to victims raise questions about their fitness for office. None has yet been disciplined by the pope. [emphasis added] Our list includes five cardinals, two of whom belong to the Pope’s inner circle of advisors. Their inclusion in this list of alleged child-protection violators underscores both the difficulty and urgent necessity of the task facing the Pope. Disciplining such influential friends will be difficult, but for Pope Francis to make good on his promise, accountability must begin at the top. Diocesan bishops cannot be expected to comply with standards that cardinals close to the pope are ignoring with impunity. [emphasis added] Cardinal Philippe Barbarin (France) Archbishop Luis Gerardo Cabrera Herrera, O.F.M. (Ecuador) Archbishop Emeritus Mario Conti (Scotland) Archbishop Mario Delpini (Italy) Cardinal Francisco Errázuriz Ossa, P. Schönstatt (Chile) Bishop Alonso Gerardo Garza Treviño (Mexico) Archbishop Jerome Edward Listecki (United States) Archbishop Francisco Javier Martínez Fernández (Spain) Cardinal Reinhard Marx (Germany) Cardinal Kazimierz Nycz (Poland) Archbishop Juan Alberto Puiggari (Argentina) Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe (Italy) Archbishop Emeritus Floribert Songasonga Mwitwa (Congo) Bishop Lucas Van Looy, S.D.B. (Belgium) ... [details left out here can be accessed by clicking on each clergyman's name above or by clicking on the link to the entire article above] Living Bishops and Religious Superiors Accused of Enabling Sexual Abuse [I suppose this is in addition to Chile] Argentina Bishop Marcelo Alejandro Cuenca Revuelta Archbishop Juan Alberto Puiggari Australia Cardinal George Pell Archbishop Philip Wilson Belgium Cardinal Josef De Kesel Archbishop André-Joseph Léonard Bishop Lucas Van Looy, S.D.B. Brazil João Cardinal Bráz de Aviz Archbishop Aldo de Cillo Pagotto, S.S.S. Bishop Otacíio Luziano Da Silva Canada Bishop Anthony Krotki Bishop Reynald Rouleau, O.M.I. Colombia Archbishop Alberto Giraldo Jaramillo, P.S.S. Archbishop Ricardo Antonio Tobón Restrepo Congo Archbishop (Emeritus) Floribert Songasonga Mwitwa Ecuador Archbishop Luis Gerardo Cabrera Herrera, O.F.M. France Cardinal Philippe Xavier Ignace Barbarin Bishop (Emeritus) André Louis Fort Bishop Jean-Michel di Falco Léandri Archbishop Robert Jean Louis Le Gall, O.S.B. Bishop Yves Le Saux, Comm. l'Emm Germany Cardinal Reinhard Marx Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller Honduras Bishop José Antonio Canales Motiño Italy Archbishop Mario Enrico Delpini Bishop Francesco Milito Bishop Pierantonio Tremolada Poland Bishop Edward Janiak Cardinal Kazimierz Nycz Mexico Archbishop (Emeritus) José Luis Chávez Botello Bishop Alonso Gerardo Garza Treviño Bishop Jonás Guerrero Corona Bishop Marcelino Hernández Rodríguez Scotland/U.K. Bishop (Emeritus) John Cunningham Archbishop (Emeritus) Mario Joseph Conti Sr. Anna Maria Doolan Spain Bishop Bernardo Álvarez Afonso Archbishop Francisco Javier Martínez Fernández Bishop Juan Antonio Menéndez Fernández Marist provincial(s) in charge of Maristes Sants-Les Corts School, Barcelona/Champagnat Foundation Switzerland Archbishop Jean-Claude Périsset United States Bishop Joseph Robert Cistone Bishop Robert Joseph Cunningham Cardinal Timothy Michael l Dolan Bishop Michael Joseph Hoeppner Bishop Lawrence Thomas Persico Bishop (Emeritus) Donald Walter Trautman Note: The bishops included in this table and in our Database of Accused Priests meet the conditions described in our posting policy. This table and the database do not state or imply that individuals facing allegations are guilty of a crime or liable for civil claims. The reports contained in the database are merely allegations. The U.S. legal system presumes that a person accused of or charged with a crime is innocent until proven guilty.Similarly, individuals who may be defendants in civil actions are presumed not to be liable for such claims unless a plaintiff proves otherwise. Admissions of guilt or liability are not typically a part of civil or private settlements. This page was last updated July 18, 2018.
Carol, I am very surprised Ireland does not appear on the list of countries affected by all this. I do hope and pray it deserves this exemption.
I found this to be quite interesting, when I typed the forum into the address line today. This source offers a couple additional directions for research, clarification and discernment in blue directly under the title. I'm not familiar with Rome Life Forum nor Lifesitenews. I will personally only say I do believe St Pope John Paul II was also a mystic as defined by true communication (more clearly than my own) with our Lord and Mother and should not be discounted. I know he was/is far holier than I am. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/w...hn-paul-iis-prophesy-of-an-anti-church-cathol Pete BaklinskiFollow Pete NEWSCATHOLIC CHURCH, FAITH, FAMILYThu May 18, 2017 - 12:37 pm EST We are witnessing St. John Paul II’s prophesy of an ‘anti-Church’: Catholic priest Amoris Laetitia, Anti-Church, Anti-Gospel, Catholic, Linus Clovis, Our Lady Of Fatima, Pope Francis, Pope John Paul Ii, Rome Life Forum 2017 ROME, May 18, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) -- St. John Paul II’s 1976 prophetic warning about the rise of an “anti-Church” that would preach an “anti-Gospel” is being fulfilled today by leaders within the Catholic Church, even at the highest levels, said a priest in a talk given at a Catholic conference today in Rome. Fr. Linus Clovis of Family Life International said in his talk at the Rome Life Forum, organized by Voice of the Family, that the anti-Gospel of the anti-Church is often “indistinguishable from secular ideology, which has overturned both the natural law and the Ten Commandments.” Fr. Linus Clovis at the 2015 Rome Life Forum.Claire Chretien / LifeSiteNews “This anti-Gospel, which seeks to elevate the individual’s will to consume, to pleasure and to power over the will of God, was rejected by Christ when tempted in the wilderness. Disguised as ‘human rights,’ it has reappeared, in all its luciferian hubris, to promulgate a narcissistic, hedonistic attitude that rejects any constraint except that imposed by man-made laws,” he said. Read Fr. Clovis' full talk here. During his visit to America 41 years ago, Cardinal Karol Wojtyla, the archbishop of Cracow who two years later would become Pope John Paul II, delivered his prophetic message in Philadelphia, on the occasion of the bicentennial anniversary of American Independence. Wojtyle said: We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel. We must be prepared to undergo great trials in the not-too-distant future; trials that will require us to be ready to give up even our lives, and a total gift of self to Christ and for Christ. Through your prayers and mine, it is possible to alleviate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it. . . .How many times has the renewal of the Church been brought about in blood! It will not be different this time. Clovis said that while the rise of the anti-Church has been happening slowly but steadily over the past decades, it’s emergence has been especially noticeable in the last few years. “For the past half-century, there has been a growing crisis in the Church, arising as much from a lack of clear and unambiguous teaching, as from the climate of dissent among priests, religious and laity. Within the contemporary Church, the crisis has been brought to fever pitch, if not breaking point, by the rejection of Our Lord’s yes/no paradigm and the undermining of established doctrinal positions by protean pastoral practises,” he said. He noted that there is a sense among faithful Catholics that “things ecclesiastic and catholic are falling apart and a pastoral anarchy has been loosed upon the Church.” He said that a “hidden exercise of power” is currently at work within the Church that is fueling such anarchy. [It] can reform the marriage annulment process without the customary consultation of the appropriate Roman dicasteries; issue a broad and scathing rebuke of the Roman Curia in a Christmas address; purge a dicastery’s membership, which effectively vitiate the influence of its Prefect who had stood firmly against innovations injurious both to the teachings on marriage and to the tenets of the liturgy; cripple the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate; and shut down the Melbourne campus of the John Paul II Institute. Clovis said that accompanying the rise of the anti-Church is a direct assault on the very “pillar of creation” and foundation of the social order, namely, the truth of the relationship between man and woman as expressed in marriage and the family. He recalled how Sister Lucia, one of the Fatima visionaries, once said that “the final battle between the Lord and the kingdom of Satan will be about marriage and the family.” “It is well known that any tampering with a keystone risks the collapse of the entire building," he said. “The keystone, the basic cell of society is marriage and family.” And the anti-Church is working its hardest to undermine that keystone. “With the tacit acceptance of contraception and divorce, the recent ‘merciful’ embracing of remarried civil divorcees and the benign nod to same-sex ‘marriage,’ the keystone has been tampered with and the omega point has been reached,” Clovis said. He noted how atheistic secularism, which fuels the anti-Church, has been “working for the demise of the family, its driving spirit being the LGBT ideology; its public face, ‘political correctness;’ its Sunday dress, ‘inclusivity and non-judgmentalism.’ He warned Catholics how the anti-Church will try to deceive the faithful by passing itself off as the true Church. It is self-evident that the Catholic Church and the anti-Church currently co-exist in the same sacramental, liturgical and juridical space. The latter, having grown stronger, is now attempting to pass itself off as the true Church, all the better to induct, or coerce, the faithful into becoming adherents, promoters and defenders of a secular ideology. Should the anti-Church succeed in commandeering all the space of the true Church, the rights of man will supplant the rights of God through the desecration of the sacraments, the sacrilege of the sanctuary, and the abuse of apostolic power. Thus, politicians who vote for abortion and same-sex “marriage” will be welcome at the Communion rails; husbands and wives who have abandoned their spouses and children and entered into adulterous relationships will be admitted to the sacraments; priests and theologians who publicly reject Catholic doctrines and morals will be at liberty to exercise ministry and to spread dissent, while faithful Catholics will be marginalised, maligned and discredited at every turn. Thus, the anti-Church would succeed in achieving its goal of dethroning God as Creator, Saviour and Sanctifier and replacing Him with man the self-creator, the self-saviour and the self-sanctifier. CONT...
CONT... Clovis said that the anti-Church works to achieve its goal of overcoming the true Church by intimidating the faithful, including the laity, priests, and bishops, into submission. To achieve its objectives, the anti-Church, in collaboration with the secular powers, uses the law and media to browbeat the true Church into submission. By adroit use of the media, the activists of the anti-Church have managed to intimidate bishops, clergy and most of the Catholic press into silence. Equally, the lay faithful are terrorised by fear of the hostility, ridicule and hate that would be visited upon them should they object to the imposition of LGBT ideology. For example, in 2015, the congregation of St Nicholas of Myra in the Archdiocese of Dublin gave a standing ovation to their parish priest when he declared from the pulpit that he was gay and urged them to support same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Irish referendum. It is not difficult to imagine the kind of treatment that an objector would have received. Thus, the oppressive influence of the anti-Church is most clearly seen at work when a person is fearful to openly uphold God’s revelation about homosexuality, abortion or contraception in their parish community. Adherents to the anti-Church especially target priests and bishops to tow the line of the anti-Gospel, knowing that once they are brought into submission they can influence countless souls away from the true Church. Priests and bishops are the immediate and more natural leaders of the laity and they, above all, are caught in the broadening spectrum of fear generated by the anti-Church. Additionally, because of the clerical vow of obedience and respect, their fear, being reverential, is greatly aggravated, especially when they find their ranks divided; their unity split; long standing sacramental disciplines violated; canon law ignored; their evangelising spirit dismissed as proselytism and solemn nonsense. In regard to their persons, they are labelled as little monsters throwing stones at poor sinners, or who reduce the sacrament of reconciliation to a torture chamber or, hide behind the Church’s teachings, sitting on the chair of Moses and judging at times with superiority and superficiality. As clerical sons, they see themselves as less deserving of a papal embrace than Italy’s arch-abortionist Emma Bonino and even less worthy of rehabilitation than renowned false prophet and global population and abortion advocate, Paul Ehrlich. As priests, they are told they owe an apology to gays and that the ‘great majority’ of Catholic marriages they would have blessed are invalid; in addition, they are called sayers of prayers and, for considering Mass attendance and frequent confession as important, are branded Pelagians. As Catholics, knowing that the Five First Saturdays were requested in reparation for blasphemy against our most Blessed Lady, they are personally affronted by the scurrilous musings that, on Calvary, where She became the Mother of all those redeemed by Christ, the Holy Virgin of Fatima perhaps, desired in Her heart to say to the Lord “Lies! Lies! I was deceived.” As ‘trees of the forest shake before the wind,’ so clerical hearts quake with fear at the possibility that they could actually be more Catholic than the Pope! Clovis called Pope Francis’ influence within the Church a “great and true blessing” since the Pope’s ambiguous teaching have prompted the anti-Church to emerge from the shadows in clear view of all the faithful. This now gives the faithful a clear choice regarding which master they will follow. “A hidden conflict has been raging in the Church for over one hundred years: a conflict explicitly revealed to Pope Leo XIII, partially contained by St. Pius X, unleashed at Vatican II. Under Francis, the first Jesuit pope, the first pope from the Americas and the first pope whose priestly ordination was in the New Rite, it is now full blown, with the potential of rendering the Church smaller but more faithful,” he said. He said that Francis’ most recent Exhortation Amoris Laetitia is an example of a force at work within the Church today that helps establish the dividing line between the anti-Church and the true Church of Jesus Christ. “The Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia is the catalyst that has divided not only bishops and Episcopal Conferences from each other but, priests from their bishops and from each other, and the laity, anxious and confused,” he said. “As a Trojan horse, Amoris Laetitia spells spiritual ruin for the entire Church. As a gauntlet thrown down it calls for courage in overcoming fear. In either case, it is now poised to separate the anti-Church of which St. John Paul II spoke from the Church that Christ founded. As the separation begins to take place, each one of us, like the angels, will have to decide for himself whether he would rather be wrong with Lucifer than right without him,” he added. Clovis tied his main points to the 100th anniversary of Our Lady appearing in Fatima. He said that she “proposed a strategy which, if adopted would secure the salvation of a great number of souls.” “The strategy required that, in order to ‘appease God, who was already so deeply offended,’ three major conditions should be satisfied, namely, a reform of morals with full adherence to natural and divine laws, the Five First Saturdays devotion and the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary,” he said. “Then to further emphasise how perilous the approaching times would be, the Virgin, with motherly concern, warned of the consequences of ignoring Her message: wars, Russia spreading her errors, the persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father. She, nonetheless, concluded Her message with a vestige of hope: ‘in the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph and a period of peace will be given to the world,’” he added. Clovis said that Catholics seeking to be faithful to Christ and the Church he founded need not be afraid of the present turmoil they are witnessing. “At Baptism, we became members of the Church Militant and, at Confirmation, soldiers of Christ; we, therefore, have been recruited and armed for deadly combat against the three implacable enemies of our souls: the world, the flesh and the devil,” he said. “Recognising that ‘we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places,’ we fight, like the Apostles, taking the martyrs for our models and Christ Jesus, Himself as our reward,” he added. Read Fr. Clovis' full talk here.
Unfortunately, the previous post of mine is just the list of bishops and/or religious superiors who have either been accused of mishandling allegations of sexual abuse in the Church or have been accused of enabling sexual abuse in the Church. The following is a list of bishops who have been accused of sexual abuse this is not even the list of all clergyman who have been accused of sexual abuse (Please click on the link to the article for additional hotlinks that have been provided), Bishops Accused of Sexual Abuse and Misconduct, A Global Accounting http://www.bishop-accountability.org/bishops/accused/global_list_of_accused_bishops.htm In the sexual abuse crisis, the problem of bishops and major superiors who abuse has not received systematic scrutiny. Yet a bishop who is guilty of child abuse, or who has other violations of celibacy to conceal, has compromised his role in the formation of his priests and in assigning them properly. He likely is less inclined to discipline problem priests or report them to law enforcement. Beyond incalculable harm to their victims, church officials who offend can cause systemic corruption. Bishops who sexually abuse seminarians, as Bishop Anthony J. O'Connell admitted doing, may establish a generational pattern of clergy abuse. The apparent sexual criminality of Jósef Wesołowski, a Vatican diplomat for a dozen years, raises concerns about the character of the bishops he helped select as papal nuncio to six countries. The following list includes 88 bishops worldwide who have been accused publicly of sexual wrongdoing – 60 (names in red) allegedly abused minors, and 28 (names in black) are publicly accused of sexual abuse/sexual misconduct with adults only. To date, a mere 4 accused bishops have been laicized: Fernando Armindo Lugo Méndez of Paraguay (2008), Raymond J. Lahey of Canada (2012), Gabino Miranda Melgarejo of Peru (2013), and Jósef Wesołowski of Poland (2014). Related Topics • Abuse-Enabling Bishops Who Resigned or Were Removed • Overview of Criminal Cases against Catholic Officials for Enabling Child Sexual Abuse COUNTRY Argentina | Australia | Austria | Belgium | Brazil | Canada | Chile | Dominican Republic | Germany | Guam | Honduras | Iceland | Ireland | Italy | Kenya | Netherlands | Nigeria | Norway | Paraguay | Peru | Philippines | Poland | Portugal | Puerto Rico | Scotland | South Africa | Switzerland | United States | Uruguay | Wales ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ABUSE OF MINORS Apuron | Arzube | Bactol | Bluyssen | Bransfield | Brown | Burke | Camacho | Carraro | Casey | Contreras Molina | Cowley | Cox Huneeus | Davis | Duarte García de Cortázar | Delgado | Dudley | Dupre | Fernández Torres | Ferrario | Flores | Gelineau | Gijsen | Groër | Harrington | Hart | Hubbard | Janssen | Lahey | LaRocque | Livieres Banks | Magee | McQuaid | Medeiros | Miranda Melgarejo | Mixa | Müller | Niënhaus | Nienstedt | O'Brien | O'Connell | Órdenes Fernández | Orsmond | Pell | Rausch | Rueger | Ryan | Schilder | Skylstad | Soens | Storni | Sullivan, James | Sullivan, Joseph | Symons | ter Schure | Vangheluwe | Ward | Weldon | Wesołowski | Williams | Ziemann ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ABUSE OF OR MISCONDUCT WITH ADULTS ONLY Antonazzo | Barbosa Da Silveira | Abanto Guzmán | Bacani | Brom | Comiskey | Eisenbach | Knight | Lugo Méndez | Lynch | Maccarone | Marino | McCarrick | McCarthy | Moreira Azevedo | O'Brien | O'Connor | Paetz | Pagotto | Pineda | Tejeda Rosario | Sanchez | Uriona | Vogel | Weakland | Welsh | Wright | Yalung ... [details left out here can be accessed by clicking on each country above or by clicking on the link to the entire article above] Note: Inclusion in this list does not imply that individuals facing allegations are guilty of a crime or liable for civil claims. The reports contained in this list are merely allegations. The U.S. legal system presumes that a person accused of or charged with a crime is innocent until proven guilty. Similarly, individuals who may be defendants in civil actions are presumed not to be liable for such claims unless a plaintiff proves otherwise. Admissions of guilt or liability are not typically a part of civil or private settlements. We have excluded from the list the following allegations against bishops in the United States which were subsequently recanted or demonstrated to be incorrect: two allegations in 1992 against Bishop Gerald F. O'Keefe 1 2 (Davenport, Iowa); two allegations in 2002 against Cardinal Roger M. Mahony 3 4 5 (Los Angeles, California); and an allegation in 2002 against Cardinal Edward M. Egan 6 (New York, New York). This page was last updated March 23, 2018.
And we all saw his actual "anger" displayed publicly when he laid out the priest activist in Nicaragua. The Sandinistas/Ortega were throwing out dissenting Bishops and their assistants at the time: John Paul, who showed his antipathy toward the Sandinistas during his 1983 Central American pilgrimage when he publicly scolded the poet-priest Rev. Ernesto Cardenal and ordered him to resign his Cabinet post as Nicaragua`s minister of culture, said he was deeply saddened by the church-state conflict in Nicaragua. Suspended priest and former Sandinista leader Miguel D’Escoto Brockmann has been elected to lead the next U.N. General Assembly, beginning in September of this year. D’Escoto has been a Maryknoll priest since 1961, and in 1975 he became involved with the Sandinista movement in Nicaragua, eventually becoming the country’s minister of foreign relations, a post he held until 1990. He was suspended by the Vatican in the 1980s together with two other priests involved in the Sandinista revolution, Ernesto and Fernando Cardenal. During a visit to Central America, Pope John Paul II publicly reprimanded him for his political activities. I am clueless re: the reported statements given by JPII re: any facts brought to him about any senior prelates accused of sexual abuse. Did he often report on himself like that so publicly as Pope?? We don't know just when the Pope is supposed to have mentioned his lack of power to do anything about what had been brought to him re: the facts of sexual abuse by certain clerics of greater power or the context, if true, in which it was given. More info seems to be wanting.
And? So where's the problem with the reality I presented? And yes, you do seem to be overreacting to what you presume to have been something untrue apparently even after the facts were delineated for you as a courtesy. Are you expecting another definition for the word "remnant" (not my invention, btw) other than the one I offered and naturally accepted by those who follow what has been revealed about this future? Have you been one of the reduced population of the institutional Church who has comfortably been preached to about what constitutes the proper response to this gift of the Divine Mercy Devotion? Then your history is "elitist" and not experienced by most in all of these decades of re-defining the idea of what constitutes in truth when and how one can experience the Mercy of God while still remaining in the sins that instead prevent such from enjoying those benefits of grace. And of course there are those magnificent stats re: the growing demand for longer times for confession and those well noticed longer confessional lines over all this time of learning about this great all encompassing mercy by most preachers during this time that makes no demands. Um, not! During that year offered of mostly non-advertised steps to take to obtain this benefit of that year of Mercy even those designated places for the doors to more easily be noticed entertained the un-educated people who said they were passing through the "magic" door without the rest of the process that was a bit more uncomfortably thought provoking. That was what occurred in the parish closest to me with a couple of flyers and no increase in confessions offered. In fact that was the usual approach...other than the major shrine which did offer time periods for buses that brought those who were already members of groups that would normally attend all such offerings for devotions and pilgrimages. Perhaps they themselves did explain the complete demands for such Mercy to a few more whom they guided in charity. We're in an archdiocese with probably one of the best Archbishops in the world these days. He did his best for such organization. Yet, travel just across the bridge to the next state and the response was the usual feckless offering and lack of cooperation in other than those few designated churches that are the only ones that offer some type of celebration with all required yearly for that now designated Feast Day of the Church anyway. But you appear to think things are just rosy as long as it really doesn't touch or effect souls to the measure expected by heaven and remains in some unexplained etherial realm w/o that "flesh" involved to that willing "spirit". Sorry if this reality, openly criticized for what is lacking in truth and depth of meaning, "turns your stomach"....I'd have rather hoped that the seeming greater loss of souls and the growth of the diabolical disorientation with its devil worshiping paganism, reported in the news and just about everywhere these days, might have had that effect instead.....of course on the level playing field for good discussion with all histrionics set aside.
Reality offered within the latest translated message of Luz de Maria....for your discernment of course! MY CHURCH HAS ENTERED INTO CHAOS. Some who have gone astray come to My Church, not in order to correct themselves, but to continue in the misuse of free will and to feel protected within the evil in which they live. (Hmmm, wonder why that kind of thinking is more prevalent these days?)
I hope you feel better now you have got all that off your chest. I took the trouble to read it all through to the very end. Just for you. Glad you have a Holy Bishop. And hope one day you will come to understand some old fashioned Catholics like Julia can't have their beliefs insulted by Catholics any more than by non Catholics without firing back. That is just an unfortunate fact of life. I look forward to more of your lovely posts when you are not sounding so grumpy. And Peace and God bless you.
I fear the average Catholic wants a Jesus without a cross and mercy without repentance. The few Divine Mercy Sunday's in my area are small in numbers. It is because, priests for the most part are not speaking to its essential gift. The confessional's in most churches are empty, because sin is not preached on. The acceptance of illegal immigration seems to seems to be the only mortal sin of today. Few feel any guilt for sin anymore, because guilt is not preached on. It is all part of the diabolical disorientation from the 'church of nice', that had to come from the clergy in order to dumb down the people. Enough said.
Carol, I posted another article on this topic under Spirit Daily and Spirit Digest you may find interesting. I was shocked what was reported regarding Cardinal O'Malley and his position in the Church along with his track record.
I seem to remember reading that (then) Cardinal Ratzinger brought him the information and urged him to act but the communists in Poland often made false accusations like that to discredit the Church so he was skeptical. Pope BXVI made it a priority and got rid of Maciel who had enjoyed a friendship with JPII. Even saints can get it awfully wrong sometimes.
Yes, I remember that explanation.....so history of personally experienced violations played a part in JPII's approach. His expertise was more in the geo-political sphere which also I believe interfered with any true attempt at the ordered Fatima Consecration of Russia. Malachi Martin also felt that that approach has hindered other things involving the Vatican throughout history. And of course it also was a bad influence within VAT II as well.
Interesting to see what a CANONIZED SAINT had to say about a topic so prevalent today... Horrendum illud scelus by St. Pius V - English translation Homosexual Priests Must Be Deprived of Their Clerical Dignity and Put to Death In the Renaissance the vice of homosexuality again became prominent. This was a matter of great concern to Pope St. Pius V. For this reason, he wrote several important documents against it beginning in the first year of his pontificate. The most important is the Constitution Horrendum illud scelus, whose central text we reproduce below. In our days of moral relaxation and liberalization of customs, we are witnessing a shameful complacence of the religious authority - even the highest - toward the vice of homosexuality in the clergy and seminaries. We consider it quite opportune to bring to mind those perennial, unchanging principles expressed by St. Pius V in his Apostolic Constitution. Perhaps they will open some eyes to see the depths of the abyss into which we have fallen. St. Pius V That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal. Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree: "Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery" (chap. 4, X, V, 31). So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law. Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss. (Constitutionn Horrendum illud scelus, August 30, 1568, in Bullarium Romanum, Rome: Typographia Reverendae Camerae Apostolicae, Mainardi, 1738, chap. 3, p. 33)
What is so interesting in your post about Pius V. I was told recently that the theologians are now discussing that the reason God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah was because of their faithlessness. Their lack of charity and other nice virtues. I even questioned as to why the behaviour of these perverts was named after the city of Sodom. But what does Julia know. Now a Pope/Saint acknowledged what we were always taught. God only knows what children are being told about this perversity in schools today. I can't imagine we will be informed from the Pulpit. It was a Catholic self described very qualified that told me the modern interpretation.
In one video on Sensus Fidelium the priest said that in Jewish commentaries on the OT, the reason for the flood at the time of Noah is that marriage contracts between two men were being written by the people of that time, and that was a line that was being crossed that God would not tolerate.
I think that is why there is such a massive worldwide push to legitimize homosexuality and homosexual "families" with two "mommies" or two "daddies". It is the devil's final battle plan. It is the ultimate mockery of the most basic building blocks of a civilization. A mockery of the family and the love between spouses that mirrors Christ and His Church. Once you knock out the foundations of a society and turn all moral norms upside down then it is good for nothing. Never in the history of mankind have we ever seen something even close to what is happening in the world today. The entire moral order is inverted. Good is being called evil and evil good. This is worse than what happened in pagan times. It is sad to say, but even pagans had more morality than many in the world today. They at least understood and respected the natural law.
Although described as an American Cardinal, Cardinal Farrell is actually Irish - born in Dublin. His older brother is also a bishop in the Roman Curia where he is Secretary of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and Vice President of the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews. A former Acting Director of Catholic Charities and Treasurer of the USCCB, he got a glowing reference from the Jesuit America Magazine. How could anyone doubt that he didn't know he was living with a pervert ? https://www.americamagazine.org/con...-dallas-tex-head-new-vatican-department-laity