The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers


    "Love" without truth is not love. Those who spew half truths are in opposition to love. Freemason's, the most diabolic institution on earth, does good things with their children's hospitals, but behind the veil of good is evil. One can speak of love, but love does not error in truth. We have only our hierarchy in the highest levels within our faith now preaching half truths in the guise of love. Be careful of the wolves in sheep's clothing.​
     
  2. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Here's Fr. James Martin preaching a different Gospel than that handed down to us by the Apostles.

    David and other people supporting this man tell us that Lifesite News and Michael Voris are the enemy.

    "Let him be accursed" wasn't hate speech when St. Paul said it. It isn't hate speech now. Let Fr. Martin and anyone supporting his false gospel, be they Pope, Bishop, Priest, or practitioner of Ignatian Spirituality, be accursed.

    Should a schism come in the Church, I won't be in the camp of Fr. James Martin. I will follow Jesus. The US Supreme Court is not and never will be my moral compass and neither will the popular vote.

    http://motheofgod.com/threads/fr-james-martin.11208/page-5
     
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  3. Fatima

    Fatima Powers


    Love without truth is not love. Those who spew half truths is in opposition to love and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Freemason's, the most diabolic institution on earth, does good things with their children's hospitals, but behind the veil of good is evil. One can speak of love, but love does not error in truth. We have only our hierarchy in the highest levels within our faith now preaching half truths in the guise of love. Be careful of the wolves in sheep's clothing.​
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Well said Dolours. There were epistles this week that warned Timothy against false gospels.
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Goodbye Good Men
     
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  6. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    And Jesus tells us to follow Peter.

    Throughout the centuries, there have been countless souls who think they know better. There have always been good and convincing reasons for them to go their own way but Jesus knew what he was doing when he told us to follow Peter.
     
  7. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Thank heavens St. Paul didn't fall for this demonic drivel, and publicly corrected St. Peter to his face.

    Follow the current pope in all matters of faith and morals, unless they are obviously counter to and against the magisterium of 2000 years of unanimous Catholic belief.

    Then abide by this:

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  8. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    And if Jesus isn't to be followed, then maybe Sister Lucia should be:

    The Cardinals asked her if she wanted to conclude with anything in particular, a message for the world today. She responded: "He who is not with the Pope is not with God; and he who wants to be with God has to be with the Pope."

    http://www.piercedhearts.org/hearts_jesus_mary/apparitions/fatima/fatima_lucia_biography.html
     
  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    We are with the Pope, David, but he is not with us.
     
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  10. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Where on Earth did you get "Jesus isn't to be followed" from what Brian said?
     
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  11. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    We need to start a thread about Papal Infallibility and what a faithful Catholic needs to do in regards to following and being loyal to the Papacy no matter who holds the office. There is great misunderstanding regarding this issue. Following blindly has never been a part of Catholic teaching, yet obedience to the Pope is also essential. These are not as diametrically opposed as some think they are. It is a shame that the average lay Catholic has to self educate themselves on these types of issues, but alas that is the situation we find ourselves in.
     
  12. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    To paraphrase a wise old priest, in keeping with the reality we're facing, "Keep one eye on your pope, and one eye on Jeus Christ and the constant teaching of His Church. If the pope goes against the latter, close that eye."
     
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  13. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Jesus also said that any man even looking at a woman other than his wife commits adultery in his heart. He said that Sodomites and Fornicators go to hell. He said that hell is everlasting. Pope Francis says that adultery is a minor sin and that fornication is a source of marital grace. Pope Francis says that nobody is condemned forever.

    St. Peter denied Jesus when he feared for his life. He didn't go around telling people that that it could be sinful to stop committing adultery. Any Pope embracing heresy is an anti-Pope. St. Paul didn't exclude apostles when he applied the accursed label to anyone preaching a different gospel. You choose the gospel of James Martin if you wish. I will follow those who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ handed down to us by the Apostles.
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't think I am better than anyone. I am the very worst of anyone. I was crying tonight thinking of my sins. Worse than my sins the fact than when I was reminded of them I could not even, at first recall them. Sigh.

    How horrible the knowledge of so many more.

    Sigh.


    But since my conversion such as it is. Sigh.

    Such that I can see so far.

    Sigh, sigh, sigh.

    I have detected and am sure of an immense hostiility to the pure and simple fact of souls like myself doing thing like saying the rosary constantly. For instance the Abbot of my monastery caiamed I was mentally deranged for praying too much..

    The same goes for Pope Francis and the present incumbents of the Vatican

    Am I crazy?

    I must be?

    To challenge the Pope and Cardinals?

    Just a very simple Catholic who likes to pray?

    But , no, |I must speak the truth and the the simple truth is that the truth is not in them.. So help me God, it is not.
    I am sorry Pope Francis is not a good man.

    He is the very opposite of a good man.
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He is a very, very, very bad man indeed.
     
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  16. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    Hi Padraig. It is distressing to learn that an Abbot of all people would consider someone to be mentally deranged for praying too much. We are told to pray always and did not our beloved St Pio pray over 100 rosaries per day? Truly astonishing that an Abbot would pass such a judgement.

    Would you mind saying what your response was to this harsh and may I say uncharitable remark?
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    It reminds me of St Anthony telling his followers that men in the end times would be insane and they would say to us " You are mad! You are not like us."
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Nothing. The mouth fell open.
     
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  19. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    What a great grace to be able to weep over one's sins. It shows true sorrow and perfect contrition and must aid greatly in preventing further sin. You have been greatly blessed.
     
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  20. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    I too would have been left speechless yet alarmed that such a person was in a position of spiritual authority over other souls. May God open the eyes of that poor Abbot.
     
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