Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    As the Houthis have shown, ships in the open sea are more of a target than an asset.

    I'm reading reports that conflict with our Western narrative and are claiming that Iran has surprised the Zionists with their recovery. US mobilisation, in the context of Trump's ridiculous call for Iran to surrender (from a country that lost a war to the Taliban), might be a sign of panic, particularly with the reports of an Israeli media/internet blackout. The Iranians have hypersonics, against which those ships would be defenseless.
     
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  2. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

  3. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I think the whole time they were questioning what Iran could do and what their options were. Ever since the Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy last year, when the first ballistic missiles were fired, until these attacks now.
    What the US has observed is that it can jam GPS and GLONASS signals that make Iranian ballistic missiles inaccurate by about 200 meters, which is enough to miss the target. They can, but as HIMARS they don't have to hit the right spot.
    I believe the US will carry out a sudden attack where they will disable the air defense of Iran, probably 100+ planes and a strike from the sea + coalition (Britain, France, Germany, Australia and of course Israel with 100+ planes).
    The goal will be to overthrow the regime, they do not want to get involved in a protracted conflict. If Iran survives the initial strike, then the US will be drawn into the war, if they collapse then that's the end and globalist policy continues towards China...
    I even think I mentioned it here, Trump was brought in because Biden and Kamala were not capable of carrying out such an attack which would certainly have turned out to be a fiasco .
     
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  4. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    What will they do if they win the war and Jesus doesn't show up? I don't see how Iran can win against the US and the usual suspects.

    Rebuilding the Temple will be top of the list for the religious Jews and the Evangelicals but I doubt the shadowy powers will let them destroy the mosque on Temple Mount straight away. Not even the Saudis have enough lipstick to sell that pig to Muslims throughout the world. There are a few majority Muslim former Soviet republics in Iran's neighbourhood and the globalists' pivot to Asia won't risk making an enemy of Indonesia. Huckabee will have to wait a few years before attending the inaugural animal sacrifice in the rebuilt Temple. Then again, I wouldn't put it past the self-proclaimed defenders of the civilised world to flatten the mosque with missiles and blame it on the Iranians.

    Anyway, I thought thr Bible passage they use to justify their perpetual war has Israel standing alone against the whole world. That doesn't fit with Netanyahu's Israel aligned with the US, UK, Germany, France and Australia, not to mention the support given by all Israel's Muslim neighbours. Maybe Scofield added a paragraph to cover that.
     
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  5. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Yes, Syria had to fall and the US control of Iraqi airspace is due to end this year. As far as I know, the Iranians have some Russian air defence systems but they don't have ground to air missiles. I know nothing about missiles but I gather that it means they have no defence against aircraft.

    There are reports of a Chinese cargo plane having landed in Tehran, supposedly delivering military equipment but that could be copium propaganda. I read that the Chinese gave the Pakistanis air to air missiles. I think that means missiles used by fighter jets to shoot down enemy planes. Maybe the Pakistani support for Iran is repaying a debt they owe to China. Or maybe, like the Turks, it's just talk. I don't think the Iranians have much in the way of fighter jets and surely Chinese ground to air missiles delivered yesterday wouldn't be much use if the Iranians haven't been trained in operating them.

    I think there would have to be an attack on American troops before Trump would openly bomb Tehran. That seems to be the plan because he has been screaming "you'd better not" warnings to Iran. Aren't American troops in Iraq and other remote bases meant to be bait? The Russians seem to be expecting a false flag. One of their spokeswomen said that Ukraine has transferred its old Soviet torpedoes to Britain, letting it be known that if an American ship is hit with a Soviet torpedo the Russians didn't do it. Trump has also been making childish taunts against the Ayatollah. He's deranged and seems to have been convinced by the Evangelicals/Israelis that God chose him to destroy Iran. I imagine that God would have told him to go to Confession first and to sort out his marital situation but Trump's God speaks through Bibi and Lindsey Graham and funds his election campaign.

    Alex Krainer has said from the start that these wars are bankers' wars. That seems to be more right than wrong.

    Some MAGA supporters are opposed to what's happening but memories are short and the Republicans will likely hope that if Trump deports enough immigrants before the mid-term elections the base will stick with them. Anyway, support for Israel is bipartisan and the US system makes it extremely difficult for a third party to gain a foothold.

    We'll all just have to pray that sanity will set in and the killing will stop because nobody on earth with any influence seems to care.
     
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  6. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The Iranians are now claiming control of Israel airspace. What is really going on? The 'Dome' certainly seems useless and I've seen a video of twelve Israeli interceptor missiles failing to find their target, while the latter sailed on untroubled, hitting Tel Aviv with a large explosion. Even the Washington Post is reporting that Israel is going to run out of interceptors, many of which are being reported as exploding prematurely, within ten days. The port of Haifa is reported to be closed.

    If these reports are true, the US might have to enter the war simply to rescue Israel from defeat. A reluctant entrance of this kind might not be as successful as anticipated. Perhaps, the Iranians have been saving their air defenses for a US attack?

    I think the US will intervene to save Israel, they will get a very bloody nose, Trump will declare a great victory and the war will finish without definite conclusion, but Israel will not have been forced to use its Samson option (if it really has the resources to do so).
     
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  8. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    What is the benefit of a US war against Iran? Do ordinary Americans who unquestioningly support these scenarios even ask themselves that?

    What does the US gain from it? I understand politicians who speak because they have to and have no opinion of their own. But I don't understand the mindset of ordinary people where they would attack a country they don't know much about, which is 9,000 miles away from them, with which they don't share a border and have not had any war conflicts so far except that the US government overthrew their government in 1953 through a CIA coup.

    In the event of war, the price of a barrel will go over $200, the economy will collapse, crime, poverty, unemployment, the US debt will increase, which will again be reflected on the common people... For what?

    People act like football fans, but in reality Israel brings nothing to the US, it is neither a democratic country, nor has it helped in any war, it is only a "parasite" that the US is fighting for and that lives on the US budget and that spies on and blackmails American politicians.

    The war does not bring anything good for the USA or for the west, it has even already caused an increase in the price of oil, which primarily helps the Russians and Putin, but this shows how strong the Jewish lobby is in the USA and that no one mentions that as something important even if they support Ukraine 100%.
    What history has shown so far is that nuclear weapons, no matter how paradoxical it may sound, have brought peace.

    Stalin had nuclear weapons, North Korea has them, and even Pakistan, which I don't know how it functions as a state, has them.

    Without nuclear weapons, we probably wouldn't have seen a relatively peaceful period in the West without wars after ww2, except in the collapse of Yugoslavia. I am more of the opinion that Iran's possession of nuclear weapons would bring peace and that the war there would stop because every attack on war would be threatened with nuclear weapons. In that case, Israel would not be able to engage in an imperialist policy of conquest, and I think that is the main reason why Iran must not have nuclear weapons. Because it would bring about a politically forced peace.
     
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  9. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    I think the answer is in your post. We get fed lies which make no sense, but we can see the outcomes. Where the outcomes are actually the answers to the questions you seek.

    The people of the US, especially the elderly get fed huge swaths of propaganda. This divides them, but also keeps them distracted and ignorant. The US already has huge problems at home and these forever wars keep adding pressure. I recently read that the cost of living currently is worse than the great depression. I don't know how true that is, but I think it is possible. I believe that they are trying to break America with these wars.

    The more I look at X as of late, the more it seems like scripted theater.
     
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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    There is a lot of truth to what you said here.
     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    Ordinary Americans do not want this war.
    "Kabuki theater". Shadow puppets.
     
  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I heard today in a commentary that Congress has to vote to approve war.
     
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  13. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Where it gets complicated is that Trump does appear to be in the process of correcting a lot of the wrongs. So getting involved in a new war with Iran would be contrary to this. As well, Trump has all the right enemies. Many are saying that Trump was set up for this war before he got into office. Like I have said before, I believe both sides of this conflict are controlled by the same people.

    If Trump doesn't get involved, he now has the Jews hating him and Iran gets a nuclear weapon. The group orchestrating this wins. If Trump does get involved, he puts America into another forever war, Iran gets controlled by a globalist puppet, and the same group wins. This group wins by exhausting life via death. So how do you navigate it?

    https://x.com/JDVance/status/1934996183702704404

    The best option in my opinion at this time, as much as I hate it, is regime change in Iran. It avoids a forever war and the current administration of Iran having a nuke.
     
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  14. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    The more I think about this the more it makes sense. If Iran has a regime change, then Israel can no longer play the Iran threat card. At which point public opinion of Netanyahu would force regime change in Israel as well. The cabal would be cornered at this point, so I could see them play the Samson option just before regime change happens in Iran. It's merely speculation on my part, but would set up for exactly what is in prophecy.
     
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  15. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    I was just saying to my wife earlier, if God doesn't act soon; he will owe Sodom and Gomorrah an apology!
     
  16. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

  17. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    It will never happen. Israel does not want a regime change in Iran. It’s so easy for them to covertly oust the Ayatollahs and put instead Prince Reza, but they won’t. Look at their track record in the Middle East. They just ousted Assad and now we have an ISIS leader that took over.
     
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  18. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    They thought that Israel could win with covert support from the US and its allies, meaning little or no Americans being killed. That didn't work out as planned so now they have a choice of making peace or a false flag attack to get thr American public behind an American war on Iran. Watch the full Tucker Carlson interview with Ted Cruz. Cruz is a charlatan. He's Cuban American, sometimes Catholic and sometimes Evangelical. Depending on the polls, he's in and out of the Church like snuff at a wake. If he's an example of Cuban Catholicism, I'm not surprised that Communism gained a foothold there. He makes it very plain that Israel is bombing Iran for the US. He's a Republican. Biden, a Democrat, said something along the lines of if Israel didn't exist the US would have to invent it.

    For some very powerful people, Wall St. = America. They're the people who exported Americans' jobs to low wage China. America First means something different for ordinary Americans. If you watch that Cruz interview, you'll see how he sells the lie that Christians are obliged to support the State of Israel. Maybe he never heard of Christian Armenia and Israel's support of Muslim Azerbeijan against them. I have no doubt that most American Christians have never heard of it because most likely nobody told them. Azerbeijan supplies oil to Israel as do the Muslim Kurds in Syria. Americans think they are saving the world from Islam, from Communism, for Christianity and for democracy. Some of them are waking up but it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled. Frankly, we're no better in Europe.

    The war is about hegemony. The first train from China has arrived in Tehran. The US needs regime change in Iran to break their ties with BRICS. Regime change for them means replacing the Ayatollah because the Prime Minister is actually in favour of closer ties with the west. The Ayatollah is adamantly opposed to Iran having nukes for religious reasons. Nukes are only an excuse for war. During the negotiations, the Israelis and some of their American mouthpieces were demanding that Iran get rid of all their missiles. The Ayatollah could sell his soul to Israel and it will make no difference unless Iran leaves BRICS.

    Nukes are only a deterrent if a country has as many if not more nukes than its enemy. The Americans have installed an ISIS government in Syria. Would the Middle East be safer if the head chopper in a suit had nukes? According to Imran Khan, the US conspired against him, so the US must have some influence in Pakistan. Representatives of the Pakistani government met with Trump in the last couple of days. We don't know the half of what goes on. Most of the time we're just guessing and trying to figure out which nugget of truth is buries in the all the lies coming from every side. There have been suggestions that Witkoff and Rubio are communicating with the Iranians. Ray McGovern reckons that Trump will blame them if things go belly up. It seems to me that the shadowy powers have set up Trump to be a forever scapegoat similar to Bush Jnr.
     
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  19. AWeakSoul

    AWeakSoul Principalities

    Gulp. Message from St. Michael to Manuela Strack 3 days ago on the 16th....

     
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  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thanks for posting!!
     
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