Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. miker

    miker Powers


    “To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. In proportion as the genuine effects of Christianity are diminished in any nation, either through unbelief, or the corruption of its doctrines, or the neglect of its institutions; in the same proportion will the people of that nation recede from the blessings of genuine freedom, and approximate the miseries of complete despotism.”

    “All efforts to destroy the foundations of our holy religion, ultimately tend to the subversion also of our political freedom and happiness.”

    “Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all the blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.”

    - Jedediah Morse, 1799
     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Truth
     
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  3. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Excellent!(y)
     
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  4. Frankly

    Frankly Archangels

    I agree.. .

    The AntiChrist is on his way in person.. . And yes, he shall unleash the worst evil of all history..

    Jesus says:

    “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
    ... then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
    Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.

    How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! ... Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

    For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.


    “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. "
     
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  5. Byron

    Byron Powers

    I have always believed in Fr Gobbi, and his Director Fr Roux of the Marian Movement of Priests. Roux, specifically said, the false prophet would be a Pope, who will unite with the Antichrist the person who will try to control the world. And this Antichrist would come out of the United Nations. So, it’s someone who works closely with the U.N.
     
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  6. Mario

    Mario Powers

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  7. Luan Ribeiro

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  8. andree

    andree Powers

    Jordan Peterson has a message for the Christian Churches.

    "You're Churches for God's sake! Quit fighting for social justice. Quit saving the bloody planet. Attend to some souls. That's what you're supposed to do. That is your holy duty. Do it now before it is too late. The hour is nigh. "

     
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  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Man, being both limited in intelligence and morally fallen, tends to associate 'justice' with fairness and equality of outcome. Divine Justice is a much harder phenomenon altogether. It is entirely Just and were it not for a Divine Mercy that even went so far as our God taking on a human body, there's not a hope any human being could have avoided damnation. Jordan Peterson seems to get this. Meanwhile, I've heard our pope is advising us to eat less meat (and I don't think he was referring to Friday abstinence).
     
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  10. Frankly

    Frankly Archangels

    Perhaps (if I may)..

    AND also In my belief {and yes even more important to us than say only seeking perhaps - speculations - on dates and names) ?
    IS ourselves, of course (Faith and Obedience to God).
    With our never being oversure of our righteousness. And Seeing our Sinfulness.. Via being Faithful to Jesus.. .. .

    AND TOO is our mission to assist others in accordance to our means / ability..

    And Forgiving all who trespass against us... !
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    According to God, the AntiChrist is going to reveal himself in a temple.

    1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,

    2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us
    —whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

    3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

    4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped,
    ---- so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. - 2 Thess 2
     
  11. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Let's see:

    In Paul's writings, virtually every reference to the temple, is a reference to the Church; in the Books of Hebrews and Revelation, virtually every reference is to the heavenly temple or sanctuary.

    Examples:

    1 Cor 3: 16 Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 17 If any one destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and that temple you are.

    Hebrews 8:1 Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2 a minister in the sanctuary and the true tent which is set up not by man but by the Lord.

    Revelation 15:5 After this I looked, and the temple of the tent of witness in heaven was opened, 6 and out of the temple came the seven angels with the seven plagues, robed in pure bright linen, and their breasts girded with golden girdles.

    2 Thess 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

    There is disagreement as to which temple Paul speaks of since the return of Christ was believed to be imminent and the above letter was probably written in the 50's. Did Paul have in his mind the Jerusalem temple which was not destroyed until 70 AD? Modern day Fundamentalists believe it refers to a rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem, soon to occur. Since Paul refers elsewhere to the Church as the new Temple, could the Son of Perdition refer to a Church leader such as the Pope:eek:? The evidence is inconclusive.

    Lord have Mercy!
     
  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I think the holy temple is the Church, but the antichrist can rebuild the Jewish temple to deny the efficacy of Christ's sacrifice.
     
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  13. Frankly

    Frankly Archangels

    YES!

    RE: Paul in Scriptures ---

    2 Tim --- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
    2 Peter --- Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. [...]
    For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

    The Holy Temple aka the Temple of God IS indeed THE Mystical Body/Church of God.
    All of Sacred Scriptures IS the Word of God .. All inspired by God's Holy Spirit - including Paul's accounts..
    No way can it be construed that the AntiChrist shall arrive in THE Spiritual Holy Temple -


    Rather... A brick and mortar temple - such as the one (The 3rd Temple - Mirroring the Old Mosaic Law Covenant 1st Temple) currently under plans in Jerusalem.
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    PostScript on Sacred Scriptures

    I. CHRIST - THE UNIQUE WORD OF SACRED SCRIPTURE
    103
    The Church has always venerated the Scriptures as she venerates the Lord's Body.
    She never ceases to present to the faithful the bread of life, taken from the one table of God's Word and Christ's Bod
    y.6

    II. INSPIRATION AND TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE
    105
    God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."69

    "For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself."70

    106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."71
     
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  14. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I believe it is VERY possible that the Third Temple in Jerusalem will be built -- plans have been drawn up (and by that I mean architectural plans) and items needed have been set aside and purchased, so that at a moment's notice construction can begin.

    While the Temple may be rebuilt, I do NOT believe (as some of our Evangelical brethren may believe) that the sacrifices will begin again. For one, Jesus is the Perfect Sacrifice -- the test of the scarlet thread shows that no further animal sacrifices will be acceptable to G_D. The Scarlet thread of the scape goat turned from red to white on the day of atonement up until AD 30! This temple miracle signified God accepted their sacrifice, and forgave their sin. (http://evbibletalk.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-year-scarlet-thread-stopped-turning.html)

    This will not prevent some people from attempting to do sacrifices while not fulfilling all that the law requires. For example, the water needed for ritual cleansing must be made with the ashes of a red heifer. That means a young cow (no more than 3 years old) that is COMPLETELY red. There has not been a red heifer born in over 2000 years.

    EDIT: Apparently one that has been certified by a rabbinical team as ritually pure was born on Sept. 4, 2018. Also, the heifer must be at least 3 years old but no more than 4 years old. If in fact this is the case, the heifer must be sacrificed before sunset in Jerusalem on Sept. 4, 2022. Clock's ticking on this.

    Before, one would always be born when the old supply of ashes was about to run out. Now, the most recent candidate was almost 10 years ago. It was examined by the appropriate rabbinical experts, and it was rejected because it had 3 white hairs on its body -- it was not an unblemished animal and so could not be used. The people doing the "sacrifices" might be portraying them as "test sacrifices" to make sure everything is in order for when the red heifer appears, but that's not the way G_D works.
     
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  15. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    is it possible that the third temple is built on the slopes of mount carmel in haifa which is also sacred to the 3 abrahamic religions? I thought of this hypothesis because with the mosque on the site of the old temple in Jerusalem it would be difficult not to cause a world war by trying to start the construction of the temple there.
     
  16. Frankly

    Frankly Archangels

    A BRIEF:

    January 2005.. After more than 15 centuries of non-existence, the Sanhedrin re-convened - Israeli Rabbis..

    Sep 9, 2018 — An all-red heifer was born at the Temple of Israel on September 4
    Sep 16, 2018 — The Temple Institute has announced the birth of a flawless all-red heifer. ..


    Pompeo Tour In Israel Included The Third Temple Plans and the Underground Sanhedrin Synagogue === Mar 2019

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    To keep this simple: In spite of certain False reports:
    from modern Rabbinical Judaism personnel, and so-called Christian / Evangelical Zionists,
    this Brick and Mortar edifice - when completed - is NOT the place of Jesus' Second Coming!
    Jesus shall Return after the arrival of AntiChrist - from the SKY!

    For many reasons - it's congruent with AntiChrist.


     
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  17. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    No, partly because I haven't heard or read anything about Mt. Carmel being sacred to Islam; but mostly because G_D told David that His Temple Must. Be. Built. Here. G_D led David to the top of Mt. Moriah, where Araunah the Jebusite had a threshing floor (to separate wheat from chaff). David bought the threshing floor and all the threshing equipment from Araunah for 50 shekels of silver (i.e. 50 pieces of silver, foreshadowing what Judas recv'd for betraying Jesus, the Lamb of God, to be used as a sacrifice to save us all.) Rabbinic tradition says that this is the place that Abraham travelled to to sacrifice his son Isaac (which must have been an interesting conversation with Isaac's mother when they arrived home); and that this place "is the navel of the world", i.e., the place from which the Earth was created.

    FWIW, the Muslims claim that they have the space where the Temple stood; yet the place they point out where the Temple stood is very rough and craggy. Threshing floors must be smooth so you don't lose any of the wheat. When the Muslims are brought low (as we show is done in the War of Psalm 83 and in Ezekiel 38-39. In the end, Syria will be reduced to the northern third, centered around Damascus; the rest will be taken by Israel, and modern-day Jordan will become a protectorate (at the very least) of Israel. After Ezekiel, Islam will cease to be a world power; many if not most of its adherents will become Catholic, and those who don't will be like the jackals in the desert. It's at this point that the real push for building the Third Temple will arise.
     
  18. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I strongly doubt the existence of this red heifer. Such a heifer must be sacrificed when at least 3 but no more then 4 years old (according to the Talmud). If in fact it had been born on Sept. 4, 2018, it MUST be sacrificed before Sept. 4, 2022. This year looks to be ... "interesting" (as in the ancient curse, "May you live in interesting times") so it may yet happen, but the Israeli government may step in to prevent it from happening, or at least happening the way Numbers and the Talmud require.
     
  19. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    they believe the biblical narrative that the place was a refuge of the prophet Elijah and that the prophet defeated the followers of baal in this place proving who was the true God:

    "In mainstream Jewish, Christian, and Islamic[1] thought, it is Elijah that is indelibly associated with the mountain, and he is regarded as having sometimes resided in a grotto on the mountain. In the Books of Kings, Elijah challenges 450 prophets of a particular Baal to a contest at the altar on Mount Carmel to determine whose deity was genuinely in control of the Kingdom of Israel; since the narrative is set during the rule of Ahab and his association with the Phoenicians, biblical scholars suspect that the Baal in question was probably Melqart.[17]

    According to the Bible in 1 Kings 18, the challenge was to see which deity could light a sacrifice by fire. After the prophets of Baal had failed to achieve this, Elijah had water poured on his sacrifice several times to saturate the STONE altar, prostrated himself in prayer to God, fire fell from the sky, and consumed the sacrifice shortly afterwards. In the account, clouds gather, the sky turns black, and it rains heavily, ending a long drought.

    Though there is no biblical reason to assume that the account of Elijah's victory refers to any particular part of Mount Carmel,[1] Islamic tradition places it at a point known as El-Maharrakah, meaning the burning.[2] In 1958, archaeologists discovered something on the mountain range that resembled an altar, which they assumed must have been Elijah's altar."
    https://religion.fandom.com/wiki/Mount_Carmel
     
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  20. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Revelation 21:22
    But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
     

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