Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

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  2. Tommy Robinson’s Letter from Prison
    Via Raheem Kassam

    Before being moved from HMP Hull to HMP Onley, Tommy Robinson wrote this heart wrenching, though inspiring letter from prison.

    I have transcribed it below, in full, for you to read, share, and publish…

    So here we go again! Its Sunday night 10/6/18, the news of the amazing scenes yesterday in London are just filtering their way to me.

    But before I start on the positives of yesterdays demonstration let me 1st start with some negatives. Let me share with you part of my wife’s letter I received yesterday:



    “School rang me today though, before I went to work and said Spencer was really upset at school, to be honest he isn’t managing mate. Sam said to him ‘I’m doing a 5k run with my dad’, and Spencer said well I can’t do it with my dad and ran off crying. He cries himself to sleep. Sleeps with your pillow and ask me 50 times a day what day is dad coming home? I can’t even give him a rough date yet because you haven’t been give any! Just hope to keep telling him its not for long, nothing will change and he needs to be brave to make you proud. He said to me last night ‘I’m going to go and do something bad so I can be put in jail with dad at least then I will be with him’.”

    I’m not going to lie, reading this broke my heart. The prison removed my wife’s phone number over a week ago so I have not even been able to speak with my children, it also upsets me that in my son’s head he must think his dad has done something bad to end up in prison.

    Before I sit and feel too sorry for myself I should put it into perspective. I’m away from my family for a short duration. Members of our armed forces’ children must go through this all the time which is why I admire the sacrifices they make, past and present.

    I’m not going to go too much into my case as my appeal is just being lodged. What I will talk about is the difference you have all made to me. When I landed in this prison I was totally gutted. Gutted about what my family were about to go through. Gutted for those who I was in discussions with who rely on me to tell their stories. I was also adamant I would be killed on this prison sentence.

    When I was leading the [English Defence League] I was sentenced to 10 months in prison in 2012, I was separated from everyone for my own protection and kept on solitary confinement for 22 weeks. I believe this was because the government feared what may happen on the streets if I was murdered in prison.

    Lee Rigby was beheaded in 2013 and our government witnessed that a soldier can be beheaded and no one will really react. I was then sent to prison in 2014 for 18 months. I was literally fed to the wolves. I was lucky to escape alive, fighting my way through violent beatings at the hands of Muslim inmates.

    The government knew I could be killed and no one would really do anything. It was a sad moment for myself, realising that if I’m murdered my death wouldn’t make much difference or change. I also realised my family would not be looked after and would go on to struggle for safety and stability.

    OH WHAT A CHANGE 4 YEARS MAKES!

    In the first few days here I began to hear that thousands are protesting outside 10 Downing Street. This was within 24 horus of my abduction by the state. I was told ‘your petition has 100,000’, then ‘hey its now at 300,000’ and then half a million. I heard people were climbing the gates of Downing Street.

    I thought the people telling me must be getting it wrong. They must be confused with our Day for Freedom demo. I was completely unaware what was unfolding outside of the prison was a world wide FREE TOMMY movement.

    I was in danger in my first days in this prison, housed with Muslim prisoners, then something changed. I was whisked from my cell and wing and taken and separated to safety. I believe now this was the moment Lord Pearson spoke up about my safety. His actions could have literally saved my life.

    I then heard protests were spreading across the globe. I heard politicians, police and barristers were speaking out. I’ve heard so many people who have sat on the fence for years were now speaking out. To hear that 20-30 thousand people travelled to London this weekend to stand in solidarity with me is an amazing feeling. I truly am gobsmacked at the reaction from the public. I feel so loved!! Loved and appreciated.

    I receive a bag of letters and emails every day. I read every one. I’m so grateful, I want to say a thank you to every single person who has supported me.

    I understand how difficult it is to speak out. I understand hat many people would have faced a backlash from friends, or even from work for speaking out on my behalf and I am truly grateful to people for standing with me.

    Free speech is not free when it has social consequences. I sit here happy, happy that this sentence has backfired on the establishment. Happy that the public reaction has sent a message of the consequences if they have me murdered on this sentence.

    I have said for so long that there will be a moment in our country, none of us know when that moment will be but it will change the direction of our nation.

    I think deeply about this and for a while now I’ve been sure that I will be murdered for opposing Islam. A scary thought. But not as scary as thinking it will make no difference. Although now I sit here smiling with the belief that my murder would start a revolution, I’m standing laughing out loud — that may seem mad — but knowing this is so satisfying.

    I’ve always said I’d sacrifice my life tomorrow if it would end the Islamic takeover of our beautiful land. Our battle is not as simple as against flesh and blood, but we battle a system! A corrupt system. Sitting here gives you so much time to think. We can no longer be looking from the outside in. We must involve our voice and our movement into politics. I have so many plans on what I want to do when I get out. To hear that Geert Wilders travelled and spoke in London is so exciting for me.

    When I started my activism I looked to Geert and the life changing decisions he made to speak out against Islam. He has been an inspiration to me. I can’t list all the people I need to thank as there are so many but I know Alex Jones at InfoWars would be leaidng the shout for my freedom. I love him, he cracks me up.

    Gerard Batten of UKIP, Lord Perason, Raheem, Ezra, Katie Hopkins, my cousin Kevin Carroll jumping straight in with the demo. Danny for organising it. DONALD TRUMP JUNIOR for tweeting. I’d have done 6 months just for that recognition.

    The list could go on and on. I’ll do my proper thank yous upon my release. One person I have to thank, my wife!

    When I finally got through to her on the phone from prison I asked her, “Have you had enough yet?” Ha ha. I’ve not been a great husband but she has been a perfect wife and an amazing mother.

    I simply couldn’t get through any of this without my family.

    So Jenna, if you are reading this letter online then know I LOVE YOU and I MISS YOU.

    My mates will ruin me for this soppy shit ha ha.

    Lots of people say I give them hope, but I want you all to know that your reaction, whether it be supporting my family, paying for legal costs, or even just sharing videos or tweets, you have all given me hope and an absolutely priceless feeling.

    Please excuse my handwriting but my hand is failing me. I’m using my time to put pen to paper and detail out my next book. I was already working on it before this sentence. Working title: “The Battle for Britain”. Basically bringing Enemy of the State [Tommy’s first book] up to date and also looking into the future.

    So I’d like to thank Her Majesty for giving me the time alone on my own to work on it. Knowing that there are more plans for demonstrations unil my release is great. It’s great to know that I’ve not been forgotten and their attempts to silencce me won’t work. It’s now Monday evening and I’ve just watched LOVE ISLAND ha ha.

    My wife’s number was put back on the system so I have spoke with my children today so I’m less stressed and more relaxed. My children will come to visit me in the near future.

    Thank you all for the support. It’s your outcry and reaction that will keep me safe. Please know how inspired and grateful I am. I’m hoping Lord Pearson and Gerard Batten will also be visiting me here and lads if you are reading this ask Geert to pop into HMP Hull with you. My appeals have gone in, appeal sentence, appeal conviction and bail app.

    Oh yeah thank you Pauline Hanson, thank you AFD for the offer of asylum.

    The establishment thought this would close the book. Instead the public have just turned the page to continue the next chapter.

    I love and thank you all.

    Mum and dad sorry about the stress I give you ha ha.

    Thank you to the free world.

    It’s Tuesday, I’m being moved prison so my kids won’t see me this weekend.

    You can help support Tommy Robinson by donating here.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ds-a-letter-from-his-prison-cell-in-hmp-hull/
     
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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    The following two videos are indirectly related to Tommy Robinson's story,



    This next video is a year old but it's still very relevant and even if you are well aware of the problem in Sweden I believe that it is still worth your time to watch this,



    This next video is related to migration from Mexico, Central America and South America to the USA,

     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

     
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  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    As the beginning of the video above shows great damage in Central America via volcanoes, Luz de Maria messages below spoke specifically of this 4+ years ago. But who listens? Who believes in heavens messages to prepare?

    Our Lord Jesus Christ
    11.09.2015

    Pray; the volcanoes continue to erupt; pray for Ecuador and Indonesia.

    Our Blessed Virgin Mary
    11.22.2015
    And in that rebellion of Nature, I call you to pray for Ecuador; it will suffer because of the volcanoes
    .
    My children, pray for Indonesia; its colossus will awaken.

    Our Blessed Virgin Mary
    09.24.2014
    Pray, My children, pray for Ecuador, the volcanoes roar.

    Our Blessed Virgin Mary
    04.10.2014

    Pray, My beloved, for Ecuador, it will suffer through its volcanoes.
    They have awakened throughout all the Earth.


     
  6. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Padraig, Jason A.'s videos are almost always amazing. He seems to find the best footage and the most accurate stories imo. Thank you for posting this.

    Fatima, As for Luz de Maria's prophecies, if he specified Guatemala and Hawaii I would be convinced that he prophesied these volcanoes in particular but from what you have posted he specified Ecuador and Indonesia, so maybe this is still a future event.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I see anther volcano has started in Mexico this time, a recent Pedro Regis mentioned Albuquerque in the vein.
     
  8. Did she seriously just say that it was God's will that that man drown in a whirlpool?!
     
  9. Mario

    Mario Powers

    "God plucked him up and took him home."

    I don't think she meant what you suggest; rather, she was stating that this man lived a generous life and she believed that this was the moment God took him home.

    God knows the day and circumstances in which each of us will die. That does not mean He is the cause of those immediate circumstances. I believe this is known as God's permissive Will.:love:

    Safe in the Father's Arms!
     
  10. Well, I hope that that is not what she meant, but I grew up in North Carolina and have been around a lot of Southern Baptists. Many of them think that if something happened there must be a reason for it, as opposed to God working good with even the most awful things (the latter is, of course, correct).
     
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  11. DivineMercy

    DivineMercy Archangels

    "Furthermore, we must unite ourselves to God's will not only in things that come to us directly from his hands, such as sickness, desolation, poverty, death of relatives, but likewise in those we suffer from man - for example, contempt, injustice, loss of reputation, loss of temporal goods and all kinds of persecution. On these occasions we must remember that whilst God does not will sin, he does will our humiliation, our poverty, or our mortification, as the case may be. It is certain and of faith, that whatever happens, happens by the will of God: I am the Lord forming the light and creating the darkness, making peace and creating evil." (Is 45:6,7). From God come all things, good as well as evil. We call adversities evil; actually they are good and meritorious, when we receive them as coming from God's hands: "Shall there be evil in a city which the Lord hath not done?" (Amos 3:6). "Good things and evil, life and death, poverty and riches are from God." (Eccli 11:14). It is true, when one offends us unjustly, God does not will his sin, nor does he concur in the sinner's bad will; but God does, in a general way, concur in the material action by which such a one strikes us, robs us or does us an injury, so that God certainly wills the offense we suffer and it comes to us from his hands. Thus the Lord told David he would be the author of those things he would suffer at the hands of Absalom: "I will raise up evils against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy face and give them to thy neighbor." (2 Kings 12:11). .......... And our Lord himself told Peter that his sacred passion came not so much from man as from his Father: "The chalice which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?" (John 18:11)."

    - Uniformity With God's Will by St. Alphonsus De Liguori chapter 2: Uniformity in All Things
     
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  12. It's still permissive Will, though, not actively willing something damaging. Even with the Crucifixion it was God's Will to save mankind, not murder Himself, our fallen nature made it so that it had to occur the way that it did. It's like jumping on a hand grenade in a war to save your buddies. Would you say that the person wanted to kill himself? Not really, but he was willing to die to save others.

    My issue was with her making it sound like because it happened God wanted it that way; God doesn't will every car accident or any child's abuse, such things are the product of man's will and are permitted by God.

    This sort of attitude, that is the one that a lot of Protestants have, is, I think, the product of believing in Sola Fide.
     
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  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, His permissive will
     
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  14. DivineMercy

    DivineMercy Archangels

    " Thus the Lord told David he would be the author of those things he would suffer at the hands of Absalom: "I will raise up evils against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy face and give them to thy neighbor." (2 Kings 12:11)"

    Hence too God told the Jews that in punishment for their sins, he would send the Assyrians to plunder them and spread destruction among them: "The Assyrian is the rod and staff of my anger...I will send him to take away the spoils." (Is 10:5,6). "Assyrian wickedness served as God's scourge for the Hebrews." is St. Augustine's comment on this text."

    "Finally we should consider the events which are happening to us now and which will happen to us in the future, as coming from the hands of God."

    "God wills only our good; God loves us more than anybody else can or does love us. His will is that no one should lose his soul, that everyone should save and sanctify his soul: "Not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance." (2 Ptr 3:9) "This is the will of God, your sanctification. (1 Thess 4:3). God has made the attainment of our happiness, his glory. Since he is by his nature infinite goodness, and since as St. Leo says goodness is diffusive of itself, God has a supreme desire to make us sharers of his good and of his happiness. If then he sends us suffering in this life, it is for our own good: "All things work together unto goods." (Rom 8:28). Even chastisements come to us, not to crush us, but to make us mend our ways and save our souls: "Let us believe that these scourges of the Lord have happened for our amendment and not for our destruction." (Judith 8:27)"


    Uniformity With God's Will by St. Alphonsus De Liguori
     
  15. Gravity speaking : "And because you have jumped off this cliff I will accelerate your mass 9.8 m/s^2 until you reach a terminal velocity sufficient to cause your death upon impact with the ground"

    Is gravity willing that you die if you jump off a cliff?
     
  16. DivineMercy

    DivineMercy Archangels

    none of what i have posted has come from me. Take it up with St. Alphonsus De Liguori, declared Dr of the Church
     
  17. I'm not disagreeing with what you posted, I'm disagreeing with how you're reading it.
     
  18. DivineMercy

    DivineMercy Archangels

    St. Alphonsus did not speak in metaphoric tongues to be interpreted in how we feel about how things are going in our life and not wanting to accept tragedies as coming from God because "God wouldn't do something like that." He is considered by other greats in the Church as the greatest moral theologian in the history of the Church. Read his short work Uniformity With God's Will. After that, Preparation for Death. Perhaps that will help in understanding this difficult subject. Peace.
     
  19. You're completely misunderstanding what I'm saying, I'm not saying that God doesn't reprimand His children, I'm saying that not every bad thing that happens is a consequence of the Divine Will; ergo we can't assume that just because something happened it was God's (active) Will.
     
  20. DivineMercy

    DivineMercy Archangels

    I'm not sure that you completely read what St. Alphonsus said, so I'll try again:
    "Furthermore, we must unite ourselves to God's will not only in things that come to us directly from his hands, such as sickness, desolation, poverty, death of relatives, but likewise in those we suffer from man - for example, contempt, injustice, loss of reputation, loss of temporal goods and all kinds of persecution. On these occasions we must remember that whilst God does not will sin, he does will our humiliation, our poverty, or our mortification, as the case may be. It is certain and of faith, that whatever happens, happens by the will of God: I am the Lord forming the light and creating the darkness, making peace and creating evil." (Is 45:6,7). From God come ALL things, good as well as evil.
    "Finally we should consider the events which are happening to us now and which will happen to us in the future, as coming from the hands of God."
     
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