Excellent Dolours. I don't understand the anti Christian mentality being showed here. It's quite annoying. And when you approach them with their hypocrisies, they turn around and call us anti Semitic. This should not be tolerated.
Richard67, Is your argument that since Hezbollah has killed other terrorists that it cannot be a terrorist organization and no part of it can be a terrorist organization? I am not in favor of terrorism regardless of what organization the terrorist states that he/she is from. The one thing the world is not in short supply of is hate and it appears that as long as there is hate there will be terrorism.
But then they deny the very thing they are guilty of. It's rather cunning. And extremely Machiavellian. But not a very Christian thing to do. One cannot ignore the perils of Christians in the Middle East. To focus in favor of these Masonic Western countries against the truth, is evil.
Christians and Jews throughout the history of providence will always be linked....in suffering as well. The Jewish people still receive God's blessings due to the faithfulness of the patriarchs and prophets to the old covenant which oriented and carried forth the plan for the coming of the Messiah. Their prophets even described the Christ as the true Messiah....but blindness came upon them, as a whole, but again, not necessarily upon those who have accepted the Truth then and since. Many, by such reasoning here, would judge that Paul, being a hard core example of those deserving no special concern by the already "perfected" and "self anointed" Christians, did not deserve such an opportunity of Mercy from Him Whom he persecuted in His followers. And yet he is on par with Peter as far as that time of introduction of the correct Christian spirit to the world. He could be seen as a precursor of the coming Mercy for the Jews for that future time of their promised conversion. Hopefully "Christians" today are not praying for a spirit that would oppose the Father's plan. BTW, Paul was the one who taught us that there are those who rely upon the Law written on their hearts for that is all they know for whatever the reason, and therefore just as worthy for God's Mercy as the ritualized Christians who themselves can betray their baptisms which can be even worse....as we can obviously witness today within the highest parts of our own structured institution of "Church". And it is the same with all denominations throughout the world today....they have, as the Jews, been seduced by and become part of the secular world only....in spirit and action. And yet that secular state of Israel still protects those holy places for all denominations and therefore has a purpose that would be opposed by those militants who would destroy or deny such protection once in control. Those who accept the state's tax benefits and other acknowledgements IF they comply with what is obliged to be preached from the pulpit fall in the scheme of the spirit of AC which comes prior to the official appearance of the man himself. They are the ones softening the belly of the culture in order for it to arrive to the state of recognizing only the material world and now believing in man being his own god. And many are so tied to human suffering that they forget that the original Christians raced to the front to be the first in line for martyrdom, so strong was the Spirit alive in them....fulfilling what Christ had preached about being unconcerned about the body but rather about the soul....and they knew of the great opportunity they had to complete what was left open in the suffering of Christ and to match the evil in order for peace to finally arrive. When people don't take these truths into consideration and generalize to groups in competition for charity or pity in their minds then this spirit aids the division of God's people and contributes to, aids and abets the spirit of this defective world thinking which is the spirit of AC.
Hey R67, This is my THIRD REQUEST that YOU provide CREDIBLE EVIDENCE for the countless IDF attacks upon Christians of which you spoke so glibly some days ago!! .... Waiting!!??? I'm beginning to think we have Holocaust Deniers here at MOG!? Christians are, in fact- at present, the most persecuted Religion at present but it ain't the Jews doing it. Last I heard it was Chinamen and RagHeads! .... Oh!! ..... and the Usual Suspect Cogs in the Global godless Left. Too bad the Nations of former Christendom aren't doing anything about it ... Just the opposite in fact! .... Aiding & Abetting Islamic Invasion and all but ignoring the murder, rape, mayhem and Christian/Jew Persecution that "The Religion of Peace" is so infamous for. GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! PS: This Day in History for all the Holocaust Deniers here: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/dachau-liberated
You are most probably right, Carol. We will never see eye to eye on this issue. However, I must take issue with you on your stating that I have slandered you in some way. Isn't this just a debate? Isn't this merely an issue where we express our perspectives and opinions on how we see things? Slander? I am not sure how you arrive at this conclusion in a debate? But please, elaborate. Tell me how I have slandered you, Carol? Honestly, I am amazed that you draw this from an honest debate....
Please Crew, I hope you're not actually comparing the Jewish leadership of today to James Connolly, Pearce and the other Irish patriots of the Rising. To do so shows a complete lack of understanding with regard Irish politics of that era. Like many in the West the Jewish leadership - just like our own leadership here in Ireland, have in this day and age embraced the ideals of the elite West and are now promoting a secularist agenda. The Irish government and Sinn Fein in particular are criminals against Christianity and are at the forefront of trying to introduce abortion and other nonsense into Ireland. The Jewish leadership of today meanwhile are no different. They are criminals too. The ordinary Jew on the street may feel like the ordinary Christian/catholic and dislike where their leadership is taking them, who knows! For we are all under attack. Rome burns while we bicker. The Freemasons have infiltrated the power structures of the West.... Haven't people heard of the Freemasons? They control the media! Haven't people heard of secret sects? - THEY PERVADE AMERICA FOLKS; BECAUSE AMERICA IS WHERE THE POWER IS! Why can't people see that the elites have taken over the seats of power? Why do people support these elites as they war monger and kill on every side (they kill their own people too - their own young soldiers, and they don't care). Why do ordinary Catholics support these far flung wars? Why? WHY? W H Y ??? Please just question things a wee bit!
Thank you for posting this Elisa. I had read this aspect of what is going on in Syria before. I hope other forum members will read the reality on the ground in Syria, especially those who have been propagandised into thinking our governments are in Syria for any good purpose. I wished I could find a utube of a woman who went with a team to Syria to see what was happening on the ground. Her findings were the same as the information in the linked article. But the BBC reporter who interviewed her practically shut her up when she was not saying what the media want us to believe. Fair play to the woman, she got her point across, that the people in Syria do like and trust Mr Assad. IMHO It is the outside interference that is causing the chaos in that country. And our governments don't care what mayhem they cause as long as they have a hope of getting their greasy paws on the oil. God protect Syria and its' people. And God give success to Russia, if they are able to help the Syrians.
Yes Carol, you quoted the website as a reference my friend. 'Recommend' 'quote' - same difference....
When these elites finish with the Middle East; they'll then come for we Christians here in the West. They're already laying the groundwork for the attack on us. As soon as gay marriage becomes the norm, one of their number will want to get married in a Catholic Church. When the priest says no; they'll move to shut us down across the board. I wonder if the Christian people who support the Elites' false flag wars in far flung places will still support their corrupt governments then? I'm betting the Irish government will attack us first. They are corrupt to the core.
It's hard to decipher your point from this post Earth, I'm trying to understand. I've read that post twice to try and get it. But it seems that you ar saying that the Jews are Gods chosen people; therefore they should be backed to the hilt, no matter what they decide to do. Would that cover it?
You're correct in one fact...you could not decipher what was obvious....but when that occurs you are better to just say so rather than add anything else, perhaps more to your liking or understanding, to my own words. The Jews, as are anyone else, remain in God's plan for salvation of all. No one should alone decide for God who is worthy or not. And that the Jews are blessed for the faithfulness of their own patriarchs and prophets (stoned and otherwise) and the law as received to their own expectations, as are others within their own histories for their own martyrs and faithful according to how they have understood that which is written on their hearts is something not to be dismissed. Such blessings ought to be built upon rather than objectified according to one's defective way of thinking about any one group or particular limited time in salvation history...since such thinking is far below God's own. We have His promise and desire for the salvation of all. If certain ones come only to work at the end of the day but receive the same reward as the others who find such Mercy not to their liking, then something is shown to be lacking in all....even the self anointed. My suggestion here then was for those who have overtly classified people without full knowledge and have limited to current events only the reality of that entire region and its constant ongoing history of strife and vengeance will solve nothing without a broader perspective. Only prayer for all to finally be open to peace when the outpouring of God's Mercy arrives can help anything.
jackzokay, It's all in the original post. Unfortunately, I don't think that we will see eye to eye on very much. I wonder if you are amazed quite often. No, 'recommend' and 'quote' are quite different. I can quote someone that does mean that I recommend reading their book for instance. You surely can't believe that everything that is 'quoted' or 'posted' on MOG is 'recommended'.
I recently went back to college, Carol. And I completed a 5 year part time degree. During it, I was taught that if you reference something to substantiate your viewpoint then you are using this a fact. It is my opinion that you are merely 'splitting hairs' on the matter. The fact remains that you quoted a dodgy website to backup your point. I thank you for your input, Carol. But the website that you quoted was iffy. Another poster made this point also, so I am not the only one who checked-out and noticed the dodgy reference. You have not answered how I have slandered you either. I maintain that I did no such thing. And again, I politely reiterate that this is merely a debate, it is nothing personal. Please, I do not mean to offend your sensitivities. God bless you.. J
So ar y ...so you are saying that the Jews are Gods chosen people (historically speaking) and they can do whatever they want? Is true?
You wonder if I am amazed quite often? ...God that's a strange question...it doesn't really seem to have much relevance to the thread, but yes Carol. As a matter of fact there are many things that amaze me. The things that amaze me aren't really relevant to the discussion tho, so I'll just keep them to myself if that would be okay. J.
