Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Shae

    Shae Powers

    This is totally unrelated, but I tried to create a new conversation but I wasn't able to post it unless I "invited" 5 forum members to the conversation. So I just listed names of 5 members, but everyone is welcome to respond!:)
     
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  2. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I have listened to all of the Fr. Malachi Martin interviews I can find. I believe the quote you are referring to was from the 1997 or 1998 interview he did on the Art Bell show. I looked for a transcript to write down the exact quote, but I couldn't find one and I don't have time right now to listen to the tapes again.

    From memory the conversation went something like this. Art Bell asked Fr. Martin if he could give a timetable for when he thought the events could occur and Fr. Martin said something to the effect of "Yes. It is not 100 years away, it is not 50 years away, it is not 20 years away". That is not a direct quote, but it is close. Again this was in 1997 or 1998. So we are right around the time he was referring to as the outside time limit.

    On a personal note having listened to so much of what Fr. Martin has said I am not sure that he knew any actual dates. I think he was most likely giving an educated guess. That is only my opinion though. I could be wrong.
     
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  3. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I tend to pay attention to dates that seem important like September 23rd and October 13th, etc. but I never make any kind of plans around them, except maybe some more prayer, etc. I am convinced that some of these dates are indeed "markers" of some sort, but that they are things happening on a spiritual level. Not something we can always see from the material world.

    For example the two dates I cited above may have some significance such as the end of the time of Mercy and the start of the time of Justice, but we will not actually "see" anything happening. At least not on that exact day. Over time we may see the beginning of the effects happen, but I don't think something will happen all of a sudden.

    I think we need to be ready all of the time and be vigilant, but not become too wrapped up in any particular dates. It seems to me that can be harmful to our faith when nothing "seems" to happen over and over again and we become disheartened.

    Ignore the dates, things are happening every day. The Dubia, the corrections, the apostasy. These are big events in the history of the Church. Events are definitely happening all the time.

    This is just my personal viewpoint. I could be wrong.
     
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  4. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Shae,

    I responded, but only those invited can give input on a Conversation. Were you by any chance wanting to create a new thread, on which any member can respond?

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree. I too have listened to all those interviews and I think he was simply trying to get across it was not in the far future but "soon" as ambiguous as that is. He did say more than once that he was watching the eastern sky every day. He also made reference to JPII waiting for the Blessed Mother to come
     
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  6. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Grüße Gott! I think your German is very good; much better than my high-school German.

    (A suggestion: never ask an American "How is my English?" An American will always tell you how good it is. We know how hard English is to learn, and appreciate that you try. Instead, ask "How can I make my English better?" Be prepared for a flood of suggestions. As a nation of self-improvers, we will ALWAYS be willing to offer suggestions to help yourself become better.)

    I'd say this isn't just a secret agenda of Merkel; I'd say it was a secret agenda of many of the EU leaders for a generation. The EU started as the European Common Market; the EU grew from this in order to make the transfer of goods, money, and workers across borders much easier. At least, that's how it was presented to the general public. In truth, actual discussion in public about the consequences of these decisions was suppressed, usually under the heading of being a "fear mongerer". In short, it has been a slow, inexorable march to a monolithic European government, where there is no national loyalty but a loyalty to being "European".

    America tried that and fought a civil war to resolve it. I think the examples are pertinent: Robert E. Lee, at the outset of the war, was offered command of the Union Army. He turned it down, because he felt his loyalty to his home state (Virginia) was more important than any loyalty to the nation as a whole.

    Had the leaders decided at the outset to limit the EU to a federation or a confederacy AND gotten the general public behind them in this, then I think Brexit would never have happened. As it is, the British public has been subjected to a slow drip-drip-drip eating away at national sovereignty, being told they NEED to give up local control in order to improve economic conditions. The perception is that their voices do not matter, and there is no true representation in Brussels of British interests, not in a way where individual Britons have any realistic say in the rules and laws that govern their daily lives.

    It is, in short, a slow steady march to a common European political system, where local culture and traditions are suppressed if they should resist or be in opposition to what has been decided for them
     
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  7. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I bet he didn't imagine people would be sitting here 20 years late hanging on every word he uttered. He may have just thought they were live interviews that would be forgotten with time. Who knows?
     
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  8. That post info on Mystic Post is the only one that I've found elsewhere. Others just use the very same quote.
     
  9. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Grüß Gott!

    Thank you for your suggestion, I´ll keep it in my mind (y)

    After the election of Macron in France and Merkel in Germany both of them will try to take the next steps to reach a common European political system. And like it always was this will be mainly justified by economic reasons.
    I think and always thought that the real purpose in the background is what you said: To make it easier for the leaders to suppresse the different cultures and traditions so that it will be easier to integrate the nations into the coming one world.

    All we can do is to remain in prayer and curiously expect the future
     
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  10. Shae

    Shae Powers

    Yes Mario, I was trying to do that, but I wasn't able to. Don't know what I was doing wrong. But I have gotten very helpful responses, thank you to all!
     
  11. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Luan,

    The following observation fits with your post and with the discussion of dates like Oct 13th and/or Nov. 7th. I think the dates are meant to get our attention, I don't know what will happen on these particular dates or any future date but I do think that God is probably using every means possible to get our attention, IMHO.

    I knew that something was coming up in regards to the Iran Nuclear agreement and the US because it made headlines last week when President Trump was questioned about it at the UN. Here is the explanation for those who were unaware of the specifics like myself. The "test" being referred to was the faked(?) Iranian missile launch this past weekend.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41371309

    The test comes ahead of two significant dates in the US:
    • The Trump administration is due to announce the details of its strategy vis-à-vis Iran around the end of September
    • On 15 October, Mr Trump will have to certify to Congress that Iran is compliant with the nuclear deal it reached with world powers in 2015. If Mr Trump refuses to certify compliance, Congress will have 60 days to re-impose sanctions on Iran
     
  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    One of the five Lourdes prophecies discovered in 1998 talks about the explosion of a highly destructive bomb on a major city in Persia, which is now Iran, I believe it will be Israel that will fulfill this prophecy by launching a nuclear attack.
     
  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Luan, I never heard that, maybe you are referring to Our Lady of Revelation - Tre Fontane?
    http://www.jesusmariasite.org/globa...asy-invasion-of-italy-destruction-in-vatican/

    PS- I did find something on the internet that appears to be what you are referencing but I have no familiarity with it. I need to read about this some more. TY.
     
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  14. indaiatubano

    indaiatubano Archangels

    Eu nunca ouvi isso antes. What are the five prophecies of Lourdes?
     
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  15. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I came across them a while ago. Can't be sure because my memory isn't the best, but I think that I also read they were debunked. A quick web search produced this site with the text of the purported prophecies:
    http://www.pdtsigns.com/lourdesprophecy.html
     
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  16. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    This just aired on the OAN (One America News) tonight, Antifa - the return of communism under a different name?,


    NOTE: There is some foul language.
     
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  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The 'eve of the year 2000' is long gone. I also recoil at the suggestion of the Mohammedans being 'forced to convert to Christianity'. The latter certainly does not ring true to me.
     
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  18. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    No comments? Do you think that this is an accurate portrayal? I knew that there were protests occurring, we all are aware of that but I didn't understand the motivation I suppose, that is, if the creators of this documentary are correct. It's scary, if they are correct.
     
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  19. Adoremus

    Adoremus Powers

    "Russia will spread her errors..."
     
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  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I think communism has been alive and well for decades in the Democratic party and to full blown with the Obama administration. Many RINO Republicans have since joined the ranks.
     
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