Prayers for the safety of the Holy Father

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by TinNM, Aug 11, 2021.

  1. TinNM

    TinNM Guest

    Priests say Mary McAleese being banned from Vatican conference is 'embarrassing'
    The inclusion of McAleese on the Voices of Faith speaker panel was opposed by Cardinal Kevin Farrell.
    Feb 2nd 2018, 10:45 PM 88,745 Views 336 Comments
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    Updated 10.45pm

    THE VATICAN HAS barred former President of Ireland Mary McAleese from taking part in an International Women’s Day conference which was due to take place in the Holy See.

    The list of speakers at the event required approval from a cardinal. However, McAleese and a Ugandan LGBT advocate were not granted permission to participate.

    The event was organised by the Voices of Faith group, which is seeking to “empower and advocate for Catholic women to have a seat at the table of decision making in the Catholic Church”.

    More: Priests say Mary McAleese being banned from Vatican conference is 'embarrassing' (thejournal.ie)
    Okay, she was President but apparently, she visited the Vatican under the 2 previous Popes.
    I thought it has been established that Francis met with the stated woman above, Emma Bonino but that it had nothing to do with her abortion views
    and activism.
    In 2016, Pope Francis praised Bonino as one of Italy’s “forgotten greats” for her work in helping refugees in Africa, saying in an interview that he recognized she thinks differently from the Church. “[I say] patience. You have to look at people, what they do,” he said.
    And:

    The church had been made available to her by the parish priest, Father Mario Marchiori, despite many protests by Catholics and a sit-in aimed at blocking the meeting. The event was sponsored by a local branch of Caritas Italiana, the Church’s aid and humanitarian organization.
    So, he didn't invite her at a minimum.


     
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  2. garabandal

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    Mary McAleese - apostate Catholic.
     
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  3. padraig

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  4. padraig

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    She was from my native Belfast too.

    It makes me want to die.

    She made up that story about Pope St John Paul the Great insulting her.

    So she is a liar to boot.
     
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  5. garabandal

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    I heard from a colleague that when she was lecturing at Queen's she often didn't turn up.

    Not sure how true but I think she is a chancer!
     
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  6. padraig

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    The Irish elites all say the same things these days.

    The Church was awful we have to escape the slavery of Irish Catholcism.

    Global warming if going to burn us to death.

    We have to 'Woke', about a billion different issues.

    Abortion is wonderful.

    Loving your country is awful.

    Trump is Satan in Human form.

    'Isn't Pope Francis wonderful?'

    Doesn't it make you proud that Joe Biden is Irish American?

    Drone, drone, drone, drone, drone.

    Boke.

    They all say the exact same things about the exact same issues. If you disagree,

    'You are evil, we will assimilate you!'

     
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  7. padraig

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    There is no excuse at this stage for 'defending', the huge evil
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/world/europe/biden-vatican-communion-abortion.html

    Vatican Warns U.S. Bishops: Don’t Deny Biden Communion Over Abortion
    Conservative American Catholic bishops are pressing for a debate over whether Catholics who support the right to an abortion should be allowed to take Communion.

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    Pope Francis greeting President Donal Trump, the most openly pro life President in American History.

    You can tell by the Holy Fathers face how happy this makes him feel.

    As compared to Barrack Obama and Joe Biden, you can tell by the Holy Father's face how upset he was at having to meet these supporters of mass baby murder..


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  8. padraig

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    Joe Biden of course when criticised for being the most radically pro abort, 'Devout Catholic', President ever famously cited that the Pope does not have a problem with his radical mass murder position.

    Joe Biden was of course quite right. Pope Francis does not , nor ever did have a problem with Joe's position. He has the Pope on his side of the fence. Smiles, hand shakes, laughter all around at their meeting.

    If Pope Francis did have a problem with Joe's Death stance he would have called him out on it.

    He never ever has.

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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Never mind prayers for the Holy Father's safety from the Faithful.

    Prayers for the Safety of the Faithful from Pope Francis.

     
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  11. TinNM

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    I won't cite offbeat websites in all of this, suffice that many who seem to be traditionalists are rather critical of Medjugorje so if one goes with both tradition and Medjugorje, there is a bit of room to wonder if they are being consistent. That is easily shown by browsing the web, so I believe criticisms of Pope Francis need to acknowledge this as well.

    “God presides over all religions as a king controls his subjects, through his priests and ministers.” (Svetozar Krljevic O.F.M., The Apparitions of Our Lady of Medjugorje , Franciscan Herald Press, 1984.)
    I will use one example though, and it's along these lines that are usually criticized, that of placing all faiths in the same realm.

    Just saying, it's not easy to have it both ways, So-called Trads seem very critical of Medjugorje.

    This article is from a more mainstream source, I will make an exception on this one:

    Will Rome fall for the Medjugorje hoax? (crisismagazine.com)

    "If you show favoritism, you commit favoritism and are convicted by the law".
    (New American Bible, 1970)
    So, this is from the "Everyday a gift" Catholic book and the quote would seem to be a Catholic translation, not sure if this is at Bible gateway.

    So, it just seems a bit counter to traditional Catholic thinking if one is also pro-Medjugorje.
     
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  12. I am curious about this post. I remember that you do not believe that Our Lady is appearing in Medjugorje. People may be traditional Latin Mass attendees and also believe that Our Lady is appearing in Medjugorje. They are not mutually exclusive.
     
  13. If Donald Trump were as you say, he would have never developed operation warp speed and he would have instantly pardoned David Daleidin and would have stopped all experimentation on mice with human embryo organs grafted onto their mice bodies. Donald Trump was a masonic plot to control opposition to formation of a new world order (Conservative Catholic opposition, that is). He succeeded fantastically beyond all expectations. You will never convince me otherwise.
     
  14. TinNM

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    You will not find me saying any such thing, I may have said that Pope Francis is skeptical and I am too. That's hardly hard proof that I said I don't believe she is appearing there. I would hope there would not be a problem with simply being skeptical of the claims.

    One can say Traditional Mass attendees and believe appearing Our Lady is appearing in Medjogorje are not exclusive but almost uniformly, Traditional Catholic websites are critical of the so-called apparitions.

    The Medjugorje Hoax (catholicapologetics.info)

    Medjugorje Hoax, Heresies, Visionaries, Facts, Messages (traditionalcatholic.info)

    The list becomes quite long among so called Traditionalists without researching this for a long time, Traditionalists or traditional-type thinkers within the Church.
     
  15. ellen

    ellen Ellen

    YES...YES Julia...Thank you...we can use some good news for change now-a-days!!
    I can hardly wait!
     
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  16. TinNM

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    One can find a thing here and there with Catholics and Trump, such as with David Daleiden.

    But is Daleiden with Project Veritas? Trump contributed money to them.

    Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States | Washington Examiner
    Trump met, donated to Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe: Report

    'The most Catholic administration we've had': Boosters look to capitalize on Trump social issues record | Washington Examiner

    Trump congratulates Project Veritas on 'big win' in ongoing lawsuit against New York Times | Fox News


    Trump Honors Catholic Martyr St. Thomas Becket For Defense Of Religious Liberty | The Daily Caller

    • President Donald Trump declared Dec. 29 the anniversary of the Catholic martyr St. Thomas Becket, hailing the 12th century English bishop as “a lion of religious liberty” in a proclamation.
    • “Thomas Becket’s death serves as a powerful and timeless reminder to every American that our freedom from religious persecution is not a mere luxury or accident of history, but rather an essential element of our liberty,” the proclamation said.
    • “It is our priceless treasure and inheritance. And it was bought with the blood of martyrs.”
    So, the Trump administration, in its waning days, even honored a Catholic Saint. This was read out to us in Church and the Pastor said however your political views are.
     
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  17. TinNM

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  18. You say you are skeptical of Our Lady appearing there and simultaneously post links to articles called 'The Medjugorje Hoax' and then when I make an assumption that you do not believe she is appearing there, you say 'not so.' This comes across to me as disingenuous.
     
  19. All the people in power, or formerly in power should be nominated for academy awards based on their performances to divide and conquer us.
     
  20. HeavenlyHosts

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    I had to look up the definition of the word “chancer.”
    :)
    Good word
     

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