Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by padraig, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Maybe his health is deteriorating quickly so he’s making his moves now. js
    QUOTE="Luan Ribeiro, post: 436407, member: 5697"]It's strange that Francis didn't even wait for the conclusion of the Synod next year to launch this document...[/QUOTE]
     
  2. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I had no sleep last night either. I fear there are many sleepless nights in our future. :( Yesterday was such a dark day. I was lying awake last night thinking about how terribly cruel it was to deliver such sorrowful news on Christmas week. A good father would do everything possible to protect his children, but sadly this Pope has chosen to protect the wolves. Even worse he has insulted and offended our Holy Mother, Mary as She awaits the birth of her precious Son. :cry: Oh come let us adore Him.
     
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  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Archbishop prohibits priests from ‘performing any form of blessing’ of same-sex couples in response to new Vatican declaration
    Diane Montagna
    December 19, 2023 at 6:55 pm
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    Rome — A metropolitan archbishop has become the first prelate to issue guidance to his flock on the Vatican’s declaration allowing same-sex blessings. In it he firmly prohibits priests and faithful from accepting or performing any form of blessing of couples in an irregular situation and same-sex couples.

    In a statement dated December 19, and sent to all priests and parishes in his archdiocese, Archbishop Tomash Peta of Saint Mary in Astana, Kazakhstan, together with Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider, firmly contend that the new declaration, Fiducia supplicans, is a “great deception”, and that its proposed blessings of same-sex couples “directly and seriously contradict Divine Revelation and the uninterrupted, bimillennial doctrine and practice of the Catholic Church”.

    The declaration, issued on December 18 by Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith Prefect Cardinal Manuel Fernández, and signed by Pope Francis, claims to offer an “innovative contribution to the meaning of blessings” which allows the “possibility of blessing couples in irregular situations and same-sex couples without officially validating their status or changing in any way the Church’s perennial teaching on marriage”.

    While affirming that the Church “does not have the power to impart blessings [proper to the sacrament of marriage] on unions of persons of the same sex”, the declaration permits priests to offer a non-liturgical and “spontaneous pastoral blessing”, i.e. a new category of blessing, to such couples.

    In his statement responding to the declaration, Archbishop Peta, a native of Poland, warns priests and faithful that “this effort to legitimize such blessings” will have “far-reaching and destructive consequences” and, at least in practice, turns the Catholic Church into a “propagandist” of “gender ideology”.

    Here below is the official English translation, from Russian, of the statement signed by Archbishop Tomash Peta and Bishop Athanasius Schneider.

    Statement of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana regarding the Declaration Fiducia supplicans, published by the Dicastery of the Doctrine of Faith and approved by Pope Francis on December 18, 2023

    The manifest purpose of the Declaration of the Holy See, Fiducia supplicans, is to allow “the possibility of blessing couples in irregular situations and same-sex couples”. At the same time, the document insists that such blessings are performed “without officially validating their status or changing in any way the Church’s perennial teaching on marriage”.

    The fact that the document does not give permission for the “marriage” of same-sex couples should not blind pastors and faithful to the great deception and the evil that resides in the very permission to bless couples in irregular situations and same-sex couples. Such a blessing directly and seriously contradicts Divine Revelation and the uninterrupted, bimillennial doctrine and practice of the Catholic Church. To bless couples in an irregular situation and same-sex couples is a serious abuse of the most Holy Name of God, since this name is invoked upon an objectively sinful union of adultery or of homosexual activity.

    Therefore, none, not even the most beautiful, of the statements contained in this Declaration of the Holy See, can minimize the far-reaching and destructive consequences resulting from this effort to legitimize such blessings. With such blessings, the Catholic Church becomes, if not in theory, then in practice, a propagandist of the globalist and ungodly “gender ideology”.

    As successors of the Apostles, and faithful to our solemn oath on the occasion of our episcopal consecration “to preserve the deposit of faith in purity and integrity, according to the tradition always and everywhere observed in the Church since the time of the Apostles”, we exhort and prohibit priests and the faithful of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana from accepting or performing any form of blessing whatsoever of couples in an irregular situation and same-sex couples. It goes without saying that every sincerely repentant sinner with the firm intention to no longer sin and to put an end to his public sinful situation (such as, e.g., cohabitation outside of a canonically valid marriage, union between people of the same sex) can receive a blessing.

    With sincere brotherly love, and with due respect, we address Pope Francis, who – by allowing the blessing of couples in an irregular situation and same-sex couples – “does not walk uprightly according to the truth of the Gospel” (see Gal. 2:14), to borrow the words with which Saint Paul the Apostle publicly admonished the first Pope in Antioch. Therefore, in the spirit of episcopal collegiality, we ask Pope Francis to revoke the permission to bless couples in an irregular situation and same-sex couples, so that the Catholic Church may shine clearly as the “pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15) for all those who sincerely seek to know the will of God and, by fulfilling it, to attain eternal life.

    Astana, 19 December 2023

    + Tomash Peta, Metropolitan Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana

    + Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana

    Photo: Pope Francis, flanked by Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider (left), and Archbishop Tomash Peta (right), visits Our Lady of Perpetual Help Cathedral in Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan, 15 September 2022. (Photo by FILIPPO MONTEFORTE/AFP via Getty Images.)

    https://catholicherald.co.uk/archbi...uples-in-response-to-new-vatican-declaration/
     
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  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I think that a stance of neutrality becomes somewhat unsustainable from that moment on. Any clergyman around the world may be faced with a question to which he can only say "yes" or "no" as an answer. I believe this consolidates the division of the church down the middle, even before the conclusion of the synod.
     
  5. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Fr Leo. Thank you.
     
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  6. miker

    miker Powers

    This declaration is just so bad not only in the decision itself but in the potential relativism it creates. Can we now have a situation that from pope to pope we have different and contradictory declarations. The devil is salivating.

    This article lay out sound arguments against this relativism. Blessed mother please help!!!!!

    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/20..._marriage_has_not_changed&utm_term=2023-12-19
     
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  7. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Praying for both of you Maryrose and AED, may Our Lady cover you both under her mantle.

    I too am aghast at all this. I am particularly praying for our priests. They need our strength.
     
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  8. padraig

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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Someone commented that the current evil regime seems to pull these wicked rabbits out of their hat always around great Church Feasts and Holy Days. It would not surprise me. I would be very surprised if at least a few of these people are not perverts and heretics but actual Satanists.

    My heart goes out to honest, good people and their poor families who live in the Vatican at the moment. People like the Swiss Guards the Attendants, the cleaners, the drivers and so on. What a truly horrible place to try to bring up a family.
     
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  12. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    I fear this 'declaration' will but hasten the attack on the church that surely is to come.
    A gay couple will at some point take to court the church for discrimination; i.e. for not 'marrying' them in the same way they do a heterosexual couple.
    What happens then?
    Do they shut churches everywhere?
    The courts become involved.
    The secular media machine will most certainly swing into full, anti-church propaganda mode.
    Yep, the attack is imminent.
    God save us!
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I foresee the official church will align with the secularists.

    Our Lady of Good Success, pray for us.

    Our Lady of Good Success, come to our aid.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    At the end of the day none of us are ever going to go to hell because of what someone else has done or said or believed.

    We will only go to hell if we choose the follow the same path evil men have walked before us.
     
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  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Isaiah 5:20

    Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

     
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  17. miker

    miker Powers

    A really sound article explaining the diabolical disorientation of thus Declaration. This will not be resolved through human means. We are hastening toward a Divine intervention. I don’t pretend to know timings but I do know we have as a Church started down the road to Calvary. Help dear Lord and Our Blessed Mother to carry the collective and personal Crosses. I pray that we all protect our souls during this time and when we do fall, we arise again like Christ and keep walking. We know how the story ends. Peace. Maranatha!

    https://www.markmallett.com/blog/ha...n=have_we_turned_a_corner&utm_term=2023-12-20
     
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  18. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Yes Padraig I can't watch him, his vile talks copiously drip with disingenuousness.

    I'm so glad Dolores to see that you are no longer influenced by Lufton's dribble.

    You have always been a stalwart for truth and I for one love your posts. In these diabolical times we are all susceptible to the wiles and deceptions of the father of lies, I can personally attest to this. So by Gods good graces let us remain strong in the truth of our Holy Catholic faith which our Lord Jesus instituted.

    I have much to say and little time as usual, so I will state what is on my heart, here.

    I woke up yesterday the 19th December, to find this hideous declaration Fiducia Supplicans from pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandes. It threw me for a loop.
    Being in Australia we are a day ahead so the news came on the 19th.

    When my disabled husband woke yesterday, I spoke like a rabid banshee! I think I was trying to ease my pain. My husband is not a practicing Catholic, but he was the only one I could speak to at that time and so he listened; God Bless his heart.

    Just before noon while explaining to my husband the gravity of Fiducia Supplicanst, I started to vomit. I ran to the sink and heaved uncontrollably until I managed to control my physical self . This happened twice during my discourse with my husband. The pronouncement by the Vatican rattled me to this extent!

    Fiducia Supplicanst, has made me acutely aware that our holy mother church could be stripped of everything that belongs to her, a scenario so cataclysmic horrific that we may be left with nil priests, nil edifices, nil guidance, nil supports, left to our own devices.

    I consider myself a steadfast and praying catholic, but this document really rattled me yesterday, to such an extent that a fleeting thought of becoming orthodox entered my brain as an answer!

    However the most blessed Virgin Mary answered my prayer as usual, reminding me to remain faithful to Her sons commands of faithfulness to His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    May God continue to bless us all. Amen
     
  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It is very,very difficult and hard.

    There is a story, I have no idea if it is true or not, that when Our Lord showed Padre Pio what would happen to the Church in our times he actually fell down in a dead faint.

    It wouldn't surprise me if this were true.

     
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