Please pray for Charlie Kirk!! (Shot in neck at campus event)

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  1. DeGaulle

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    DeGaulle, Sep 13, 2025
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  2. DeGaulle

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    There is supposed to be a video of young Robinson doing the rounds of the internet, which shows him jumping off the roof. It seems that he is not carrying a rifle. If he did it and abandoned his rifle, how did it end up in the woods? Did he have a rifle, in the first place? If he didn't do it, why is he confessing?

    Why are these inexplicable anomalies so common in assassinations?
     
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  3. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    After a long time and many family difficulties, I am back...
    During that turbulence, I followed this case a little. I must admit, it seems a bit strange to me that the Israeli president is defending himself by saying that Israel did not kill the American conservative commentator at a time when the government of that same state is carrying out ethnic cleansing and is also at war with Yemen, Syria, Iran, and Lebanon... On top of that, he was among the first to express condolences. It reminds me of those mafia movies where one clan kills the leader of another, and then they show up at the funeral and offer their hand in sympathy to the family members.

    For a president who is at war with several countries and under accusations of genocide, he seems to have quite a bit of time to comment on the death of a relatively unknown activist to the broader American public...

    My stance here has always been clear. Communism cannot arise unless the healthy foundations of society are destroyed. This was already proven from 1917 to 1991 in the Eastern Bloc, where tyranny could not survive where family, upbringing, and morals were not destroyed.

    The old communists believed that by destroying churches, temples, and killing priests they would destroy God, but God is not in the temple — the Spirit of God is present in every person. You can only remove God from a person by dehumanizing them, and since the 1960s, cultural Marxism has been doing just that.

    Culture is being destroyed, everything distorted is being normalized, everything normal and essential for the development of civilization is declared dangerous, and those who protect values are labeled as threats. This process is accelerating, and through migration, divisions are being created — a fragmented society with no ethnic, religious, cultural, or linguistic cohesion, where unrest and conflicts are more easily created, and there is no unity.

    When an individual loses God, they become unhappy. This is not necessarily only in the religious sense, but when a person changes gender, when they become a subject of divorced parents, addicted to drugs, pornography, gambling... simply when they stray from God’s path and lose love, hatred is created. And then that hatred is directed where "they" want — not at the true source of guilt, but at those who stand in their way.

    And yes, don’t forget that it takes two sides for a conflict. The Left is full of hate, completely radicalized and constantly provoking, but it’s important that the right-conservative side remains calm.

    Remember that Jesus told Peter to put his sword back into its sheath when they came for Him, but Jesus also said, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Our King was tortured, crucified, and killed, all His followers tortured for centuries, and yet Christianity conquered the world without firing a single bullet. Evil loves revenge, loves rebellion because that is fertile ground for unrest, and for a totalitarian regime to arise, conflict and the collapse of the current order are needed.

    There is no new order without the destruction of the old — and that is now the main goal, which has been in the making for more than half a century: to radicalize both sides and create unrest through which they can restrict rights, freedoms, and impose greater control — not necessarily the new order right away, but one piece in the puzzle.

    Jesus received slaps and responded with silence. He called us to follow Him, to take up that cross, and sometimes being silent is much harder than receiving a slap. But that is the path of victory and the cross. God always wins; we just must not go along with them or turn the wheels of their mill.
    I’d add something else: even if we take that this man did shoot, we must look at the bigger picture — many young people are being radicalized at their most vulnerable age in universities, schools, even kindergartens, and in society at large, even if they grew up in conservative families with good, faithful parents...
    There was just a sermon where Jesus says: “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” God must be in the first place — nothing should stand in the way between us and God and salvation...

    Our stance has always been, as is mine personally: God–Family–Homeland. However, in the sermon I heard: God–Homeland–Family. At first, I didn’t understand because, although I love my homeland with all my heart, my family always came first — and after all, families build a homeland.
    However, in this example, and many others, you can see that parents and families can raise their children honorably, instill moral values, but if society is a moral swamp — from kindergarten, schools, universities, to their peers — in that broader community which is the homeland, our extended family, that child will lose the path to God. Sooner or later, they will fall and stray.

    Without a healthy society, there are no healthy individuals, and without that, there are no healthy families. Divorces, children born out of wedlock, the LGBT population, gender changes among children, abortions, euthanasia of close family members — all of this is proving it more and more each day.

    We need to pray for families, but we must also pray a lot for our Homelands, and that God gives us strength, peace, and perseverance to endure all these attacks just as His Son Jesus endured — and then, after Good Friday and suffering, God will grant us the joy of Easter Sunday.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

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  6. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Archangels


    Only good can defeat evil. You and your wife are doing the right thing in forgiving and offering your sufferings for the conversion of souls.

    As our Blessed Mother tirelessly exhorts and encourages us, God wants us to pray and offer our trials and sacrifices for these poor misguided souls, particularly the youth. They are constantly inundated by toxic propaganda on social media, with the online platforms’ algorithms continuously feeding them with extreme leftist ideology, promoting violence, brainwashing them, and poisoning their souls.

    This morning, I had a vision of a small cross on a round base with several layers. Since it is not a crucifix but a plain wooden cross, it represents the self-sacrifice of each faithful believer and follower of Christ. We are called to stand where we are, firmly planted on our solid foundation, some as leaders, others as silent witnesses, hopefully giving powerful testimonies of Christian lives.
     
    childofdivinewill, Sep 13, 2025
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  7. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.harvardsalient.com/p/the-end-of-illusion-on-the-assassination

    The End of Illusion: On the Assassination of Charlie Kirk and the Way Forward
    By Richard Y. Rodgers and David F.X. Army
    The Harvard Salient
    A vigil in loving memory of Charlie Kirk will be held on Saturday, September 13th, at 7:00 pm, on the steps of Memorial Church.

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    Charlie Kirk at the 2025 Student Action Summit at the Tampa Convention Center in Tampa, Florida. Source: Gage Skidmore. Edited.
    Charlie Kirk’s murder is first and last a private calamity: a wife now without her husband, children without their father, a circle of friends and kin bereft of a steady presence. That grief is immediate, awful, and beyond any contestation. We owe the dead our sorrow and the bereaved our silence and our service. But grief has its civic logic too. The taking of a life for some desperate, ill-conceived political conviction—in the courtyard of a university, in front of young witnesses—forces a public diagnosis: we are at war, and too many of us still pretend otherwise.

    Those who knew Charlie will tell you what the cameras too often obscured. He could be theatrical, florid, and exasperating in the delightfully modern register of political showmanship. He could also be unexpectedly, almost annoyingly, moderate: a man who prized argument over obliteration, outreach over insularity, whose modus operandi was to cross campus thresholds and address anyone curious enough to ask a question. He exhorted a generation, plainly and insistently, to love God, love their family, and love their country. That was enough to get him killed.

    Let us be unsentimental about the nature of the enemy. Leftism is not merely a rival policy set or an alternate party program. Leftism is a mental illness. There is no risk in naming the condition plainly when the symptoms are so evident: systematic hatred for inherited institutions, a taste for moral monstrosity, and a bloodlust that sanctifies obliteration—of traditions, of customs, of human life—as signs of progress. If you are on the Right and have been told this language is excessive, look instead at the evidence of behavior: celebration when opponents are deplatformed, undone—or worse—killed. They hate you. They want you dead. To say it this way is necessary, for it is in the flowery meadows of euphemism that rot truly spreads.

    Leftism is not merely a rival policy set or an alternate party program. Leftism is a mental illness.

    This is not a rhetorical flourish. It is a warning. To those who treat conservative life on campus or in civic society as an agreeable pastime—“a club,” “a journal,” “a debating society”—recognize that there is no safe neutral. The adjective “just” in front of any conservative endeavor is an attempt to be dismissed as harmless, but it is precisely the seemingly harmless that activists of the other persuasion seek to erase first. If you wear your conviction visibly, if you sign your name to a cause, if you instruct others in the habits that sustain a free and ordered society, you place yourself on the line, and, if the Left wins, they will place you on the gallows. That is not martyr rhetoric; that is realism.

    For those of conservative disposition who wish only to lead a private life, cloistered away from the political fray, I am sorry. That is not possible. They won’t allow it. The logic of our hour is simple: if our institutions and formative practices fall, the private life you cherish will be the first to go. To wish for quiet while our enemies reconfigure the moral architecture of the nation is to wish for exile in place.

    And yet, despair is not an option. Charlie’s death must not be allowed to calcify into a paralyzing fatalism. It must harden into a militant diligence. Reverence must be translated into work.

    First, we must outlast personalities. Charisma withers; institutions endure. Do not treat conservative talent as an end in itself but as the seedbed of durable structures: parish schools that catechize the young, neighborhood reading groups that form habits of mind, free associations that forge the brave and the learned, scholarship funds that free talent from petit politics. Endowments, curricula, and local cells of study should be built now, not as ephemeral projects but as a conservative infrastructure: slow, networked, and resilient against the fashions and fury of the moment. Make the long game irreversible.

    Second, cultivate an education of courage. The modern university offers an education in the art of dissent. We must answer with an alternative catechesis: rhetoric, logic, history, theology, liturgy, and philosophy of civic friendship, whatever remains of it. Courage is an acquired disposition: to speak the truth as you see it, to stand when others flee, to accept cost without cynicism. We should produce men and women who can withstand slander, who can retain composure under siege, and who can outlast the moral fashions of an age.

    Third, refuse the counterfeit civility that is merely cowardice. There was a civic civility that governed honest bargaining and, insofar as it still exists, that ethic is worth preserving. Too often, the best case scenario is that “civility” is deployed as a plea to disappear, to shrink one’s claims until the public square is emptied of all meaningful assertion. The worst case scenario is that any attempt at discourse, even of the most reasonable, accommodating kind, will be met, Left on Right, with violence. If it can happen to a lion of free speech and civil discourse like Charlie, it can happen to anyone. Regardless of whether or not the age of reasons debate ended two days ago, the counterfeit civility imposed upon the Right must be exposed. Practice a measured politeness toward persons while being implacable in defense of public truth and the institutions that sustain it.

    Charlie Kirk’s life was a mixture of exuberance and seriousness; his death should compel us to the latter without surrendering the former.

    Finally, be precise and uncompromising in your politics: the stakes are metaphysical as well as administrative. Elections are only punctuation marks in the politics of man. Family, church, law, education, and public memory are the true battlegrounds. If we cede the formative structures, policy wins will be temporary because the habits that sustain a free people will have been hollowed out. Organize, staff, fund, and harden those institutions now so that when the hour grows harder we answer with political intelligence and moral readiness, not surprise.

    Charlie Kirk’s life was a mixture of exuberance and seriousness; his death should compel us to the latter without surrendering the former. To grieve is human; to pick up the mantle and persevere is a fitting tribute. We have been offered a summons by the worst of circumstances. Let us answer with the best of ourselves: with learning sharpened into resolve, with institutions of habit and formation, and with a courage that understands the cost of action—and inaction. The hour is harsh. The work is hard. The loss is great. The choice, however, is ours.
     
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  8. DeGaulle

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    Another factor in all this is that the alleged assassin is supposed to be a Mormon. Mormons are, I believe, generally very strongly pro-Zionist.
     
    DeGaulle, Sep 13, 2025
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    I cannot disagree with you. We had very little choice in the last election. "Kammy" was simply not a choice. Not to vote at all was to risk her winning. But we have a very very imperfect man. An ignorant man in many ways. He requires huge prayer.
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I was sad to hear that his wife (and children?) are Catholic and in the last few months he had been attending Mass regularly in his local Catholic Church, St Bridget's. He was reportedly actively in the process of becoming Catholic. The only thing that held him back was the terrible scandal of Papa Frankie and his awful goings on.

    Charlie had a huge, huge Evangelical Protestant following especially amongst the young, if he had converted a whole army of young people might have become Catholic.

    It is such a shame then he was murdered and this conversion never happened. It would have been a huge, huge source of good. But God has His reasons...

     
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  12. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    It’s being reported on several social media accounts that Tyler Robinson, the man who assassinated Charlie Kirk, was living with his transgender boyfriend who was transitioning to a woman.
    How many more will they allow to become victims of these violent, confused individuals before they acknowledge that they suffer from a grave and dangerous mental illness requiring psychiatric and spiritual guidance. What is happening now is the direct consequence of the " normalization " of behavior offensive to God.
     
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  13. BlessedMomma

    BlessedMomma New Member

    My family and I just moved to Arizona a month and a half ago. We have been trying different parishes to find something with the same beauty and reverence our amazing old parish had. Just Monday, I texted my husband wanting to try a new one. St Bernadette’s in Scottsdale. Probably one of the most beautiful churches I’ve seen. The night Charlie was killed, I saw photos of him at daily Mass there with his family. Sounds like he attended Easter Vigil and loved it. Still planning to attend Mass this weekend, although it may be a bit more packed. So sad that we didn’t get a chance to see him there. My high schoolers just loved his videos! He brought them to such a great place of understanding the craziness we tried to explain. May he rest in peace.
     
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  14. BlessedMomma

    BlessedMomma New Member


    https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=FgAYWnRiqqE&back=1

    a link of a church tour. So beautiful.
     
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  15. DeGaulle

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    It seems he was shot at precisely the moment he was answering questions about trans violence. Simultaneously, there were two men behind him making gestures. All these people need to be detained and vigorously questioned. The timing is way too much of a coincidence. Were the questions a set-up, with the signallers pointing out the moment to shoot? If so, who put them up to it?
     
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  16. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    There is a saying that bad Catholics become Protestants, and the best Protestants become Catholics.
    I think that every search for truth, especially in faith, leads us to Christ, and the living Christ is present in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church.
    Modern apostles are no longer door-to-door, as Jehovah's Witnesses do so hard, but podcasts, YouTubers, and with our modest contribution here on the forum where we help each other grow in faith, many here have personally helped me understand some things more deeply.

    We see a large number of political conservative debaters turning to the Catholic faith like Candace Owens, Carlson is on that path, and the question of truth was obviously of interest to Kirk as well.

    It also became clear to him that the God who dies out of love is not a God of revenge, the God of one nation and the God of hatred and political ideology. The motive for his murder is not religious, but political and ideological, but I believe that sooner or later he would have converted and drawn a large number of souls with him, and perhaps in that spiritual sphere he would have done the greatest damage to evil. However, God will place even more in his place who could make a Catholic "revolution" among the youth.

    It is an interesting trend...

    https://thecatholicherald.com/artic...church-than-leaving-for-first-time-in-decades
    https://fsspx.news/en/news/united-states-conversions-catholicism-highest-level-20-years-54011
    https://nypost.com/2025/04/17/lifestyle/why-young-people-are-converting-to-catholicism-en-masse/
    https://www.wordonfire.org/articles/why-are-so-many-young-adults-becoming-catholic/
    https://www.thefp.com/p/meet-americas-newest-catholics




     
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  18. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Like the the assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, I believe there is more to this story. I still cannot get past the fact that once again rooftops were unsecured. This guy actually took the time to change his clothes up on the roof, and break down his gun before he escaped into the woods. Maybe it's just me, but I find it troubling.
     
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  19. Sam

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    I had the same thoughts. The video shows him jumping off the roof, there is no sign of a rifle and yet "the rifle" turns up in the woods. Important questions that need to be answered.
    FBI: Surveillance video shows shooter jump off roof, run away after Charlie Kirk shooting
     
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  20. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

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