Please pray for Charlie Kirk!! (Shot in neck at campus event)

The Talmud is far more anti-Christian than the Koran. The Koran recognises Christ as a great prophet and also has great respect for His Mother. The recent extremely anti-Nazarene stance of ISIS is not typical of Islam. It might have something to do with ISIS being a Jewish-sponsored organisation. The Armenian Genocide was also untypical. The Ottomans had overseen an empire for centuries that was relatively tolerant of Christians and Jews (the historical ones who were always there and have been generally opposed to Zionism). When their power was usurped from them by this secularist organisation, said to have been greatly influenced by certain Jews, according to E. Michael Jones, we got the terrible genocide of the Armenians who had had few problems from the Ottomans. Wherever Christians are persecuted, it's well to look around for the Jews. Divide and Conquer is a time-worn tactic. We now have the Christians and Muslims fighting one another. Who gains?

Dr Jones is very insistent that this propaganda about 'antisemitism' is a lie and a smear. He says that Jews are not a race, not a tribe and not a nation, but that the only truly accurate quality that defines them is that they are a cult opposed to Christ. This defines everything about them, even the atheists, and explains their targeting of the historically Christian West, as they have been doing from the beginning of Christendom. They really know of little else, apart from making money.

 

Great post. I agree!

 

I will agree that the texts in the Talmud are worse, however I will disagree regarding the results. Islam has scriptures, which I can cite if you like, that allows them to do anything they want to non-muslims. This is further encouraged by their dawah teachings. The Crusades were against Muslims, because Islam spread by the sword. Women and children are treated like absolute garbage in Islam. Christians were dominated and forced to convert throughout the history of the past 1400 years or face absolute submission. The idea that Muslims were ever tolerant to Christians is absolute hogwash, which is exemplified today by their collective worsening behavior in western nations. But also by their behavior in nations like Nigeria where 62k Christians have been killed by Muslims since 2000. The scriptures I mentioned earlier I believe were exploited to create increasingly violent Islamic sects like ISIS, but they still exist none the less in the Quran.

Regardless of what definition of Jews a person uses or descriptions of their behavior, it doesn't dismiss the collective disgusting past and present of Muslims towards Christians over the last 1400 years. Nor can it all be blamed on Jews. Yes it can be exploited, but only because the foundation for this kind of behavior already exists in the Quran.

As for Jews worshiping false idols like money and exploiting to their own ends. I totally agree, the entirety of history including that of the Bible is rife with this. Obviously not all Jews but the synagogue of Satan types.

 

I'm not defending Islam, but the crimes of Jewry vastly exceed them in terms of the numbers.

You're contradicting yourself somewhat by trying to demonise the history of Islam by pointing out that it is now worsening. If it was as bad as you claim, why would it have to get worse? I think it has got worse and this is primarily because of the sponsorship of the wilder elements within Islam by the Zionists. The Mohammedans are undoubtedly a bad lot and can be compared favourably to only one group, the Jews, and that is a damningly low bar.

Both religions need to be converted, for the sake of the world. The Truth is glorious-perversions of it (which is what both are, in relation to Christianity) are of the very lowest circle of Hell.

 

Where have you heard that Erika Kirk was a lapsed Catholic? I've only read that she is a good Catholic who attended daily Mass and that Charlie sometimes attended Sunday Mass with her.



Insiders describe her as a daily Mass attendee, often bringing her kids along, and her public gestures, like raising a rosary during the somber transport of Charlie’s body this week, underline a devotion that’s active and unapologetic. No whispers of Protestant leanings here; Erika’s baptized Catholic heritage is front and center, complete with a recent convalidation of her marriage in the Church just before the tragedy, ensuring her family’s spiritual unity under Catholic rites.

Erika Kirk Religion: Charlie's Wife Catholic or Protestant?

 

People have claimed that Charlie Kirk was venerating Our Lady in a recent video. But listen to the full video of Charlie Kirk blaspheming the Virgin Mary and the Catholic Faith in that same video from July 2025. At the end, he states the following:

“I find biblical evidence to show that Mary was sinful like all the rest of us. ... I personally would not be able to enter into a faith that believes that anybody except Jesus Christ our Lord was without sin."

 

Well he knows now about the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Whatever he thought then he is fully aware of the truth now.

 

Thank you

I can't thank you enough for this post, especially the link to the article about Erika. And I sincerely mean that.

I didn't hear anywhere that Erika was a lapsed Catholic. Like I said earlier, I had never heard of Charlie Kirk before he was murdered. People who knew him well - people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens - had the height of praise for his sincerity. They also praised his wife. They talked a lot about Charlie's commitment to his Christian faith which was clearly Protestant but I don't recall a single one of them mentioning that Erika was/is Catholic. I'm not saying that they didn't mention that Erika was Catholic but if they did I missed it. Candace definitely said that Charlie had started praying the Rosary and I think she said that he had been to Mass but Tucker Carlson gave the impression that Charlie had also been looking into Orthodoxy.

I did a search on Erika after her speech and discovered that she had been raised Catholic, including attending a Catholic prep school. Everything I found highlighted her Christian faith and charity work with no mention of Catholicism other than the reference (possibly on Wikipedia) to her having been raised Catholic and attending the Notre Dame prep school. It was mostly the attached article that gave me the impression that she was no longer a practicing Catholic: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...-erika-kirk-wife-of-charlie-kirk/86139481007/
The article talks about her being a "ministry leader" and having a bible ministry. Lay Catholics where I come from aren't usually referred to as ministry leaders or having ministries. Following the Instagram links in the USA Today article, I read posts from Erika, none of which mentioned her being Catholic. Strange that today I can't access the Instagram posts without signing in but I could yesterday. The restriction is possibly due to some vicious comments from people criticising Erika for not looking sufficiently grief stricken by their standards. One or two articles on other websites mentioned that they were married in Arizona. There was even reference to Turning Point USA having had a wedding reception for them but no mention of the church where they were married and no wedding photos.

So, as I said in my previous post, it was hard to tell but I got the impression that Erika was a lapsed Catholic. I'm very glad to read that I was wrong, not least because she will pray for the repose of Charlie's soul. I see now that she will be the new leader of TPUSA. That's a heavy burden to take on. Given her youth and the cruel way her husband was taken, with two infants to raise, Erika will need a lot of prayers to help her cope with the kind of pressure that weighed so heavily on Charlie. God help and protect her and her children.

 

Who really knows what was in his heart after that July 2025 statement? Only God.

 

The title of this thread is Please pray for Charlie Kirk - when he had just been shot. I don't think anyone on this thread thinks he should be canonized. I think we were all in a state of shock and horror that someone would shoot down a good man in cold blooded murder for basically Christian beliefs. I am just taking my grandson Vinnie's advice on the day it happened when he said I'm going home and praying for Charlie's soul in case he's in purgatory.

 

There is a video floating about on the internet where Charlie Kirk says to Michael Knowles that he couldn't convert to Catholicism because of a Pope like Francis. I have nothing more to say.

I continue to pray for the souls in Purgatory, especially Charlie's if he's there.

 

Most people don't communicate their views as publicly as Charlie Kirk did. If one does not believe what he has said, this would imply he was lying, which would also not reflect well on him.

He was certainly no Christian paragon.

He was a promoter of homosexuality in the developing world.

He was, ironically, quite sympathetic to the transexuals, indeed he was encouraging them.

He was an enthusiastic denier of the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

There is contradictory and tenuous evidence that he might have been changing his views near the end, but he certainly still had a long way to travel.

 

Just my thoughts after reading The Turning Point, September 10, 2025 by veilofveronica

(https://veilofveronica.blog/)

In Leah’s (Veronica’s friend) “vivid dream” on the night before Charlie’s death, a young man (presumably Charlie) was kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament, which he did not seem to see (my interpretation, he did not recognize the true presence of Christ, Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, in the Holy Eucharist). But he was “kneeling with his head bowed in prayer very close to a tabernacle that housed the Eucharist” (quote from Veronica's blog). In Christ’s immense love for Charlie, He penetrated Charlie’s soul with His light (God knows just the right time, perhaps recently or on the night before Charlie died or in the final moments of his life. See my next post below.)

Never underestimate the graces that God grants to a Catholic wife who has deep faith and prays for her husband. I think that Erika exercised great prudence in their relationship and in navigating the differences in their beliefs, although both Christian. The couple simply focused on their shared love for and devotion to God and each other. Many of their photos show Erika leaning her head on Charlie’s shoulder or chest. She said that Charlie always asked her everyday, “How can I serve you better?”

Let’s offer a Mass and pray for Charlie, as well as for Erika and her kids. Erika now succeeds Charlie as the CEO of Turning Point. As we all know, God allows tragic events to occur out of love and for His divine purposes. He has prepared Erika, as evident in her own ministry and even in her apparel business that promotes Christian values. Perhaps this is a turning point in Turning Point’s focus. Perhaps God’s plan is to use Erika as another instrument for the conversion of a great number of people wordwide, starting with the youth, leading many back to God. It seems to be a heavy burden (loss of her life partner, raising her very young kids, heading Turning Point, managing her ministry and business). She’s intelligent and a strong leader in her own right, so she will probably delegate some responsibilities to the other Turning Point leaders and staff. If it is all God’s plan, He will equip her with the necessary spiritual strength and capabilities, but she also needs the faithful’s prayers and support.

 

Excerpt from Robert Brennan’s article (https://angelusnews.com/voices/kirk-conversion/):

“… a personal exchange between Charlie Kirk and a Catholic bishop who happens to be my brother: Bishop Joseph Brennan of Fresno ….

A little more than a week before his murder, Kirk attended a pro-life prayer breakfast in Visalia, California, which is in the Diocese of Fresno. The bishop was among those in attendance and had a brief, private moment with Kirk.

It was there that Kirk told the bishop about his Catholic wife and children and how he attended Mass with them. He punctuated this conversation with “I love my Catholic pastor.”

As they were parting to attend the more public portion of the prayer breakfast, Kirk mentioned speculation regarding his contemplating entering the Catholic Church, saying: "I'm this close."

 

I have felt that Charlie was very close. This is a confirmation. Thank you.

 

If he was that close, I would expect someone in the Church Triumphant, perhaps Chesterton or some other of similar magnitude, would have given him the necessary propulsion up the transom to get him over the line.

May the Lord have mercy on Charlie Kirk.

 

Charlie Kirk's assassination is, in many ways, a defining moment for the West. Who does the slight remnant of Christendom follow? Do we follow the traditional (note the contrast with the 'Trad...itional one) One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church or 'political idols' who think they personally have the right, more than any Pope ever claimed, to announce that the Divinely Chosen Mother of God, the host of His Perfect Being, could in any sense be sinful? Divinity cannot, in any sense whatever, tolerate sin. The two simply cannot co-exist. Hence, the requirement for the, hopefully, majority (I felt bound to drop the word 'vast') to undergo the purification of Purgatory-'No-one sees my face and lives'.

The only way I can admire, in the religious sense, this political advocate is in the degree that he was about to abandon his heresies and embrace The One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Certainly, he had admirable secular qualities of 'free speech' and 'listening to his opponents' type. But, what does this latter mean? Surely, any Catholic must first accept that 'Error has no rights'?

 

I am here in Medjugorje.at yesterday's Mass a young priest shared a wonderful story of God's Mercy that he witnessed as a hospital Chaplin in England.
He was called to talk to a man, Tony, who had got a bad diagnosis. He was told that his body would begin to cease up year by year but he would have possibly 10 years before he would be immobilized. So he wasn't in any immediate danger. He offered the man confession and discovered he hadn't attended Mass since 1966. The reason he attended then was England won the World Cup and he figured it was a miracle. The priest had to suggest sins to him and he agreed or disagreed whilst constantly looking beyond the priest at the TV that was on in the ward. The priest then gave him the anointing of the sick. Tony didn't seem to be too pushed or didn't understand. At this point the priest packed up and decided he would not give him Holy Communion as he felt he hadn't the right disposition so he packed up his stuff. As he prepared to walk away he heard a voice clearly tell him to give Tony the Eucharist. He protested to the Lord he is not ready for it. The Lord said You are my Priest and must carry out my directive you are not your own priest. So he turned back and took tho host out to give it to Tony. As soon as Tony saw the Host he began to cry and apologize to Jesus for all the pain and hurt he had caused his wife and family and all sorts of failure. He received Jesus in tears. The priest left then realizing that Jesus was the source not himself. So it was a great revelation to him also that his ministry was sourced in the will of God and he was a servant. He called back to the ward that evening to recover his prayer book that he had forgotten to be told Tony had closed his eyes after he left and died within a half hour. He hadn't been in danger if death. I'm sure Jesus had prepared Charlie for that moment and he was ready to fly into the arms of Jesus. Our God is so good and do merciful.

 

I followed a link to a video of a Protestant preacher who said that he and Charlie had had a discussion about 36 hours before the assassination. Charlie was asking about the Resurrection of the Lord. I didn't watch the rest of the video because the preacher switched to sermon mode and I hadn't time to skip forward to hear if he said any more about the conversation with Charlie. I did wonder whether they had discussed the Bible passage where Jesus spoke of himself as the temple and raising it up in three days. That passage also includes Jesus chasing the money changers out of the temple. We know that Charlie was under pressure from the donors to stop any criticism of Israel. There's also a report (not sure if it's just a rumour) that Bibi offered him megabucks which he declined.

 

As far as I can figure out, TPUSA is a political organisation with a Christian flavour - a kind of Christian indifferentism. It's certainly not Catholic.

You'll see what I mean by indifferentism if you have time to watch this video where Tucker Carlson guest hosted the Charlie Kirk show yesterday. The Kolvet guy is the Executive Producer and spokesman for TPUSA. He says that he was raised Catholic, received his First Communion and Confirmation but was "saved" at a Protestant church when he was an adult (I think he said when he was in college but I'm not sure). Tucker is very much a WASP. That's his background and he believes that it was the WASPs who built America. The third guy, Blake (I forget his surname) had worked with Tucker at Fox, seems to have been a victim of cancel culture and Charlie Kirk hired him after he was sacked by Fox. About an hour into the programme they bring on Frank Turek. Introducing Turek, they say that Charlie would go to him for advice on ap9logetics. I think that he's the Protestant preacher that Charlie was speaking to about the Resurrection the day before the assassination.



Towards the end of the video they speak about Charlie's wife, Erika. They say that she was more conservative than Charlie. They also say that in 2012, the death of Andrew Breitbart sparked Charlie to start TPUSA. According to Kolvet, Erika Kirk won Miss Arizona in 2012 and hung out with Donald Trump because of that. They all heap praise on Erika and what an amazing woman she is.

I wasn't impressed by Kolvet. He goes on about conspiracy theories. Maybe it's my imagination but I got the impression that it was an underhand snipe at Candace Owens. The knives are certainly out for Candace. TPUSA is definitely a political outfit aimed at the young, especially young Protestant, vote. There aren't enough conservative Protestants to win an election so they need Catholic voters. Erika is a Catholic. Vance is a convert to Catholicism with an Asian wife and they want Vance to succeed Trump.

Candace is also a convert but she won't back off on the Epstein cover-up and is very outspoken against the Israeli ethnic cleansing and genocide. Too vocal for the donors, Candace isn't as politically savvy as the likes of Tucker and Megyn Kelly. Ben Shapiro has donated a million dollars to TPUSA. He sickens my stomach talking about Judeo-Christian civilisation with the likes of Michael Knowles nodding at him like an obedient donkey. Candace is probably the only Catholic with the courage to tell them that Zionism has little to do with the Jewish faith and zero to do with Christianity. There's absolutely nothing civilised about Zionist Israel. Their savagery against the Palestinians would give the Nazis a run for their money. At least the Nazis had enough shame to try hiding their barbarism. Christian Zionists are worse because they're supporting it in the name of Jesus. That's as demonic as it gets.

Tucker made a half-hearted attempt at defending the "conspiracy theorists" but I strongly suspect that Candace is about to get the Alex Jones treatment. The Macrons are suing Candace in the US. The allegations about Mrs. Macron originated in France and Candace is merely repeating them. There's an upper limit on any court settlement in France but the sky's the limit for $ in the US.

Of all of them, I prefer Candace because she strikes me as the most genuine. God help her. Politics is a dirty, stinking business.