The report that the statues have been found seems to be corroborated in English now I believe it is unsure though if they will be in St. Peter's. https://cruxnow.com/amazon-synod/20...ft-of-pachamama-says-shell-be-back-on-sunday/ I knew this would happen. This is why they should have smashed those idols into pieces!!!
Apparently now the Vatican is denying that there even was a ritual in the Vatican gardens on October 4th and that no prostration took place!?! These people have their brains addled. https://twitter.com/HicksonMaike/status/1187703894463393800
I worried about this as well. Great, the return of the Pachamamas. The pagan garden worship was just a figment of my imagination?
Carol, you are a font of information. Thank you for keeping us all informed and up to date. Communists in the Vatican and someone went out of their way to hire her. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. Conchita is becoming more plausible from day to day.
Clearly the strong Catholics in the Vatican have been praying to St Anthony for the return of the pagan idols and he answered!!
This leader of the Jesuits questions the Gospels because they didn't have tape recorders back then. Now that we have tape recorders, videos and photographs, this is now apparently still not enough. Is there any end to their lies? Still, it is not discouraging that they are attempting, vainly, to backtrack. They must think we are the ones with the addled brains.
P., Yikes! Pope Francis was given the opportunity to address this properly and he has failed. Do you think that they really retrieved those idols or that they had a bunch of spare idols made up already? It doesn't make a difference, Pope Francis missed his opportunity to correct this horrible situation and I am almost certain that God will intervene to do so. Edward Pentin tweeted a link to the following article today: Pope asks forgiveness for theft of Amazon statues By NICOLE WINFIELD October 25, 2019 | https://apnews.com/234df305fd9d46979b4988c9b7894b80 *** I want to point out something that Professor Roberto de Mattei pointed out in that incredible article that member Blizzard found: "In late 2016, he [Leonardo Boff] boasted in a German-language interview of having helped Pope Francis write Laudato Sì." [Click on that link to read a CM article about this entitled, Liberation Theology Activist: Pope Francis Is One of Us] Professor de Mattei also pointed out that Boff has written about Pacha Mama in his book, Cry of the Earth, Cry of the Poor: "In place of the United Nations’ Declaration of the Rights of Man, there is to be a declaration of the rights of the earth.[6] The earth is to be considered as a unity, comprising its physical-chemical structure and the living beings who dwell there. It is understood as “an organic macro-system, a living super-organism”[7] and ought to be considered as “the great and generous Pacha Mama (great mother) of the Andean culture, or as a living superorganism, the Gaia of Greek mythology and modern cosmology.”[8] “There is no difference between earth and humanity. They form an organic and systemic whole.”[9]" [Emphasis added.] This all begs for the following question, does Pope Francis think that we are all fools? *** I have not read Boff's book nor do I plan to but I am very thankful that Professor de Mattei did all of the research that he did. Just for those who may be doubtful that this is all occurring, I did a search for his book and then on the term Pacha Mama and this is what I found: https://books.google.com/books?id=X_pbz4NMDkwC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=the+cry+of+the+earth+and+the+cry+of+the+poor++leonardo+boff++"pacha+mama"&source=bl&ots=Be_YXVqhnU&sig=ACfU3U3rv5ID_VhELCCIhXMPExHvlNIHDg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim_J2O5rflAhXJtlkKHWHKD2YQ6AEwAHoECAkQAQ#v=snippet&q=pacha mama&f=false Keep praying. D., Thanks, I am just trying to keep up with as many posts on the forum as I can and with Edward Pentin's tweets. This requires a lot of teamwork. Speaking of which, Mr. Pentin tweeted these today also: Oct. 25, 2019 Pan-Amazon Synod Was a Done Deal 5 Years Ago COMMENTARY: At a certain point, a pattern becomes clear — only those who wish to close their eyes do not see it. Father Raymond J. de Souza | http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pan-amazon-synod-was-a-done-deal-5-years-ago
If the objective of this synod was simply to introduce married priests, why the over-reach? Instead of debating a controversial change in praxis, this synod has transformed into an imposition of Gaian pantheistic paganism with the latter sure to discredit and delegitimise the former. Perhaps Pope Francis has become so sure of his absolute power, as exemplified by this tyrannically-assembled synod, that he thinks the best method to introduce radical change is to offend almost everyone.
by: Daniel Oconnor « When Royalty Speaks, Idols are Cast Out, and the Long-Prophesied Events Approach | Pope Francis Corrects His Own Defenders; Admits that Naked Paganism Has Entered the Church in Rome. (Now would be a good time to wake up) I apologize for yet another post so soon (longtime subscribers know how uncharacteristic this is of me), but a brief retraction is necessary. Those who read my last post may recall that, within it, I speculated that Pope Francis himself may be most pleased of all that those idols were cast into the Tiber. Well, I stand corrected by reality. For he has just made a public apology for the very act. But that is not what is most significant here; the real news is that, within the same announcement, he admitted that the statues were indeed of the Pagan “goddess” Pachamama. Here are Pope Francis’ own words, taken from the Vatican’s official news site: Those who followed the debate this week will recall that the usual defend-everything-the-Vatican-does-no-matter-what crowd focused all their efforts on attempting to prove that the statues weren’t of Pachamama, but were merely innocuous symbols of life and fertility. They attempted to “flood Twitter” with all sorts of examples of symbolic statues in Catholic churches that allegedly proved their (now proven erroneous) argument. Because Pachamama is — as a matter of objective and indisputable fact — a Pagan “goddess.” Look it up yourself. Now, Pope Francis has said that the statues were there “without idolatrous intentions.” Fair enough. I said the same thing in my last post: I’m guessing those who brought [the statues] are, like many Catholics today, good people who are simply clueless and do not realize that syncretism is a heresy and a sin, and do not realize what demons they are inviting in by their actions. (It has long been observed that many indigenous South American Catholics have not left their Paganism to become Catholic, but have simply mixed the two together). My point here is only to say that this is a major sign of the times, not merely by accident brought into light publicly … For discerning Catholics would do well to pay close attention when naked Paganism (pun intended) pierces its way into the very heart of Christendom. The intention of the evidently clueless Catholics who placed the statues there matters for naught — the objective reality at hand, which has now been settled, is what matters. Pope Francis has, furthermore, proclaimed that the idols were recovered by police and may just be displayed at the closing Mass of the Synod in St. Peter’s Basilica itself. God, help us. No, I do not think this is the fulfillment of Matthew 24:15 just yet… but I do think it is a forerunner; one that indicates that the Abomination of Desolation itself is very, very near: In the following verses, Jesus goes on to speak of the signs of His coming that will immediately follow the aforementioned sacrilege. I am glad I did not wait any longer to publish The Crown of History. It looks like we may be even closer than I thought to the events described therein. I am going to try, therefore, to take my own advice and refrain from further commentary, as I have already said what needs to be said regarding the times at hand in that book and in The Crown of Sanctity. Pray for me and be assured of my daily prayers for you all In Christ, through Mary, Daniel
Liberation theology per se was always undesirable, but what is advocated by Boff, and seemingly favoured by Pope Francis, is on a whole other level. One can perhaps understand how a priest might become angry in a society with unjust variation of wealth and how he might slip into heresy by following a socialist solution. Boff is far gone beyond mere heresy into outright, extreme apostasy. With him stands a Pope of Rome who has made no attempt whatsoever to deny a direct quotation, attributed to him by a man he greatly respects, that not only does he express doubt about Our Lord's Incarnate Divinity, but also refers to Him, using the indefinite article, as a god, rather than as God, His being the Second Person of the One Holy Trinity. Can matters in the Vatican get any worse than this? Just finished posting to read Fatima's post from Daniel O'Connor. Well, now we can see that there can be no more denials. Pagan idols, identified as Pachamama, will be deliberately displayed at Mass by Pope Francis, although he might be claiming that there are no associated 'idolatrous intentions'! And he might not be. God bless us all.
Dear God no. Doing this would be ahuge mistake. It rmeinds me of a child about to set a barn on fire. But maybe this is what is meant to be. But putting thos eidols in St Peter's for a mass in this way would be a HUGE mistake.
Actually, the Vatican is not lying, but telling the truth; technically so: The participants are bowing, not prostrating, because prostrating means to lie down, face down on one's stomach, usually with arms outstretched. Such verbal nonsense. Lord have mercy. O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
They are trying to drive us out of the church. In the end it will be they who are driven out. Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a long bumpy ride.
I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone. It's going to get worse and it is hard to believe that it can. But it can and will. Lord, please keep all here strong in Faith, close to your Blessed Mother and strength of purpose and thought. Please enlighten those of your children that still do not see the signs of the times. Viva Cristo Rey!!!
I found an email address not directly to the Secretary of State, but to an associated office and I asked them politely not to include the Pacha Mama image in the Synod closing Mass. I urged them to focus on Jesus, instead.
Frankly, I think we should have been marching on the vatican and throwing stuff in the river for quite a while. Do we need a list?
Save your carbon footprint. It's all good. A Vatican spokesman said that the Pope was speaking in italics when he referred to the statues as Pachamama.
