Locutions to the World

March, 27 2013
5. America – No Longer Safe

The Secrets of Two Hearts

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Jesus
The burned out city and the rubble of destruction are not the blessings of the heavenly Father but the power of the Evil One unleashed where he has gained control. Look at the effects. Everything is destroyed and life cannot continue. All is suffering and hardship where few survive. Can this be? Can this happen to America, which seems to sit so safely between two oceans? Your oceans no longer protect you. They are no longer unscaleable walls that keep your enemies at bay. They can be overcome by the technology of your enemies, a technology that has fallen into their hands.
Mary
America, you have abandoned me. I guided the early explorers and led them to this new land. It was my gift to those who believed in my Son. You have turned away from him. The divine protection that kept you like a light shining on the mountain, has been slowly stripped away.
Now your Supreme Court will consider the challenges to the defense of marriage. They will ponder the constitutional arguments, but will they consider that God made them male and female and told them to increase and multiply? If this defense of marriage falls, then untold difficulties will beset you until you return to your senses and to the God who would exalt you.

 

I keep thinking, 'Fox News, Fox News, Fox News'.

Then I have a mental image of Our Lady behind a desk with Jesus giving us a report.

 

I have read these today and some back to Feb. 13 2013 I am still not convinced they are false. Just deserning. sp. What do you really think?

 

I am cautiously watching and discerning them myself. I have not ruled them out, but am not 100% convinced either.

 

encourage and teach this path. Search. Search. Search. I will guide you.”
Mar31
4. God Will Act

Easter Season

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Jesus
Can a spinning top move in a straight line or find a clear direction? It is too busy turning again and again upon itself. It resists any hand that tries to send it in a clear direction. It exists and acts only for itself, with no heed of anything else.
This is the world, spinning relentlessly out of control, caught up in forces which only propel it more quickly. Nothing gives purpose or meaning. Nothing else is allowed to guide mankind’s course which is now caught up in powers far beyond its strength.
Will I act? I must act. I must take steps to stop mankind’s selfishness. These will be merciful acts that will prevent far greater destruction. However, the acts themselves will not be seen as merciful. I will explain all this ahead of time so that my people, at least, will understand. ( Could his be the Warning???)
Mary
Mankind is weighed down with past decisions, often made by others. Some are no longer living but their sins and the power of their sins live after them, perpetuated by those who follow in their footsteps. Their sinful decisions have become “the law of the land” (as they say). America is weighed down by its history and it refuses to repent. It refuses to repent of its history and go in a different direction. What else can the heavenly Father do? He must stop America in its tracks so it cannot pursue its destructive path. This is an act of mercy

 

I don't understand why these prophecies are still posted when there were mistakes in them? God doesn't make mistakes, there wasn't a long conclave at all.

Don't get me wrong, I love good prophecy.

 

thanks for posting these Fatima. I'm still keeping an eye on them even though they are on the side burner for me.

I don't think we can be 100% sure that these prophecies are wrong. The time between Benedict retiring and Francis being elected was something like 10 days, which is pretty long. The conclave itself may have been short, but I don't think God waited until the conclave started to start inspiring his priests to elect Francis. I certainly did not wait until the conclave started before I started praying for them...I'm sure God was working on them from the minute Benedict made his announcement. With EWTN much more widespread than when Benedict was elected and many, many people adopting a cardinal to pray for, I think there were more prayers for this papal election than in the history of popes!

So, I don't think myself or anyone can be absolutely certain that their interpretation is 100% correct. Given that, I'm thankful that these messages are still being posted, and hopefully people can accept this and the peace of this forum will not be disrupted. If these messages really bother you, I would avoid this thread. there are certainly threads I avoid...

 

That wasn't the message potato Sacks. The conclave starts when the conclave starts. God doesn't mix his words or cause confusion. I am staggered by this statement to be honest..

It is no wonder there are so many false prophets out there, they have a great life style and are getting the fame or whatever it is that their egos wanted, and if they foul up, hey the good ole Catholics will be ever ready to excuse. This is wrong on so many levels, if we are not sure of something we shouldn't be promoting it either. Good true prophecies get lost in all the confusion. A grave matter..

 

God's Holy Truth is way too important for me to 'ignore' things like this. There are many things that bother me, If I see wrong doing in the street that I don't like, I don't just 'ignore' that either. If I die this way, I don't care either.. Stupid as that may be to some.

 

a few things...big difference between promoting and simply posting the messages. I don't see a lot of promotion going on for these messages.

I understand why some may not want to read the messages, which is perfectly fine. but hopefully you understand we are all different people who will interpret these differently. I'm not even sure the Vatican interpreted the 3rd secret of Fatima correctly...so how can each of us be 100% certain our interpretation is correct? I also take into account the spiritual director. This is why I'm still reading the messages...although I would never promote them to anyone.

Unless they suddenly take an MDM turn and start speaking against the church, hopefully these messages can be posted in peace. I do not believe in Pedro or Anne the Lay Apostle's messages...but I do not complain when their messages are posted, because my interpretation may be wrong. I simply avoid those threads.

 

This woman promotes the use of guns. Strictly against Gospel teachings. And to post messages is actually to promote them, it is advertising which is promoting them. I will always speak out when I see wrong and cannot ignore.

There is rarely a mention of Fatima which would be far more helpful than these messages. What if someone was using a gun to protect themselves in the present day, and they then read some of these messages, would they not in some way aid them to justify what they are doing?

Some have lost sight completely of the mercy of God so we do need to be very careful and we have a huge responsibility to protect each other also. I do not comment unless I too am 100% sure either way.

 

I have yet to see any prophecy, including Church approved ones, that did not have misunderstandings or controversy. If anyone can name me one, please do so. I am not sold on, but cautious in reading Locutions To The World. But certainly, I have not found any doctrinal errors in these messages. They are at least worth discernment for my throught process.

 

If you are cautious, then why are you posting them? This is what I have trouble understanding.

 

Maybe Christ should have turned everyone to dust and protected himself and then he wouldn't have been crucified. And maybe the apostles should have bought more swords and weapons and protected themselves from anyone who came near them. Oh what a different Church we would have today..

We would have to call it Church of the World.. Oh, wait a minute.. we already have one of those.. The anti christ runs it.. It is dead against peace, love, mercy etc...

Her messages promote worldly views and arms etc.. .

 

You are interpreting her message on Syria differently than I am. I don't have time to explain now, but we discussed this a long time ago on another thread which I don't have time to find now. But I'm not surprised we have different interpretations or stances on things. For instance, what is wrong with protecting yourself with a gun?

promoting v. posting...2 very different things in my book. but that's my opinion...

a Fatima thread is a good idea...

 

Not in the world of advertising it isn't, and if you look at it in that respect, it is advertising/posting.. which can be seen to be promoting. Her prophecies were also wrong. Is that not enough?

It just makes me realize that no wonder God hasn't converted the rest of the world yet, He has enough problems with the children that He has already. (including me)

When do we stop and think in posting something that we ourselves have reservations about is actually disobedience and a disrespect for God's true and Holy word?

 

In the Catechism of the Catholic Church under 'thou shalt not kill' there is a long commentary regarding 'just war' and 'killing in defense'. This includes using guns. I know this because we are retired military and it is something we have discussed to death with priests and bishops. Guns, swords, knives, etc. are not against gospel teaching.

 

Actually , 'Thou shalt not kill' is a mistranslation of the original Hebrew...what it really says is, 'Thou shalt not murder' , which is a different thing entirely.

 

I know that we are able to protect ourselves, I am very aware of that, I looked this up myself. But to pick up guns etc and to instigate violence, and for Mother Mary to get involved in politics? And yes, even if the apostles were to spend their time defending themselves and killing before they were killed. Would the Gospels be as powerful as they are today?

There also comes a point when everyone who picks up a gun could justify their intentions, and of course we know that not all intentions are good.

What is really causing me to 'scratch my head in disbelief' is the printing/promoting/advertising/passing on (call it what you like) of these messages when has reservations about them causes me to wonder what we are doing.

Also, when something has been proven wrong such as a long conclave isn't that enough for us to discern? Discernment isn't actually that difficult in cases like these. The results speak for themselves.

Also, with regard to thou shalt not kill/murder.. Why didn't Jesus defend himself? We think on human terms with our limited love, Christ's love has no limits..

 

Even though I had reservations, I kept an open mind to these locutions leading up to the papal election. I felt it was clear that what the person was prophesying would either be true or not during that election. I then felt that the prophesies did not happen in at least a few areas so I don't bother with them now in the same way that I don't bother with the MDM ones. Of course being the knucklehead that I am I could be wrong but that's where I am with them.