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Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, Mar 14, 2024.

  1. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Zionists seem to be begging for scripture to be fulfilled.
     
  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    And so it will be.
     
  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Funny you should mention that. I actually heard in the last day or two a Jewish person opposed to the genocide say that there is a faction in Israel who want to bring on the war of Armageddon. That's the first time I heard mention of them. He said that in the course of an interview posted on youtube but I can't recall who said it. It could have been Norman Finkelstein but I'm not sure. Sometimes I only hear these conversations because the videos play automatically and I'm using ear buds.
     
  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Megiddo is only up the road.
     
  5. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Yes.

    The Palestinians are the amalek, the human animals who must be slaughtered or driven out for the implementation of the Greater Israel project.

    Several members of the Netanyahu government have openly stated this.

    But after they rejected the messiah God said through Luke:

    They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
     
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  6. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I think he actually said "Megiddo" but when I hear Megiddo I think Armageddon.

    When I hear atheists/agnostics bemoan the problems caused by what they call religious fanatics or fundamentalists, I often wonder whether they drop the words "fundamentalist" and "fanatic" when they're not being recorded. I suspect that in many cases it depends on their target audience. It's such a pity that Christians are ceding to them the high moral ground concerning the ethnic cleansing/genocide of Palestinians. I suppose that there are some Christians who equate defending Palestinian rights with defending Islam. Do they think they are protecting Christianity? If so, they are making a terrible mistake, heaping up future trouble for us.

    Catholics should know the Church teaching against doing evil that good may come of it. They should know that our neighbour is all mankind, even those who injure us or differ from us in religion. They should know that we must do unto others as we would have them do unto us. And anyone who has ever read the Gospel should know what Jesus meant when he said "I was hungry and you gave me to eat". May God forgive us all.
     
  7. AED

    AED Powers

    I just said to my husband tonight that I suddenly wondered if Armaggedon was the plan. A confirmation of sorts.
     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    Megiddo and Armegeddon are the same place I think.
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Perhaps the problem with people in Israel is that they never forgave or forgive or forget. Forgiveness is very healing. With it we can close doors and move on. If we can't forgive we can't move on from the past and are caught up in an endless cycle of wars and recriminations. We see this cycle of endless wars and hate in so many parts of the World such as India and Pakistan. Or Greece and Turkey. Or Japan and China.

    The difficulty in Israel is perhaps that it does not really have forgiveness. It speaks rather of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I remember visiting Auschwitz Concentration Camp and seeing to my surprise a large group of young Israeli women in uniform marching round the camp , carrying an Israeli flag singing a song , 'Never again!' . So angry and impassioned. The holocaust was a terrible thing of course. But then again for the Irish the Famine was a terrible thing. But it would not be at all healthy for an Irish person to be continually hating the English for it. There comes a times when you have to close the book and move on. I mean hatred if never really productive. Hating the English would not be a healing thing it would be just keeping old wounds forever open.

    It is the same with modern day Israelis. I just feel like when I listen to them that they seeth with anger, resentment and lack of forgiveness and over all this a constant fear.

    To remember the past, yes. But with forgiveness rather than bitterness and hate.

     
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  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    One and the same. It's not unimportant that there is a real geographical location.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I read Israel Shahak's "Jewish Religion, Jewish History" (he was a non-Zionist, Israeli Jew who died about thirty years ago and his small book is free to download) just after the October attack by Hamas and the beginning of the genocide. He says that if a Jew has a heart attack on the Sabbath, the religious Jews will consider it acceptable to ring for an ambulance, but if a Gentile (Goy, hence "guy") has a heart attack, they will not ring because it would break the sabbath. As always, the law was not made for man, but man (especially Goys) for the law. Those women in Auschwitz, when they chanted 'never again', probably did not consider that this applied to the Goyim.

    Some time ago, I read an article by a Rabbi, supposedly friendly to Christians, show his true colours on the very respectable online Christian magazine First Things. He admitted that in Judaism, one does not have to forgive your enemies. Even stronger, hatred of the enemy is considered a 'virtue' in Judaism. And this was a very moderate rabbi-at least honesty was also a virtue for him.

    We should be very wary of the deceptive term 'Judeo-Christianity', which is often used in opposition to Muslim aggression, lining us up on the same side, when in fact Christianity has very little in common with modern Judaism.

    A certain amount of Muslim aggression might be reactive to Israeli atrocity against Muslims and it is not surprising that they see Christians as allies of the Israelis, but I wouldn't be surprised if Israel is actually promoting Wahabbism. Certainly, the injured from ISIS and Al Queda in the Syrian war were treated in Israeli hospitals. Now, these evil people rule Syria and are lauded by the US and Europe, even as they continue to slaughter the Christians and Alawites.
     
  12. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Just in time to dissociate themselves from complicity, as it nears end-game.
     
  14. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Stunning testimony from a doctor in Gaza. Must watch.

     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    At least the Vatican has spoken out time and time and time again against this awful horror, We can be pleased and proud of that. Our Church at least did not remain silent, thank God.
     
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  16. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

  17. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Archangels


    Yes. As members of the Body of Christ, we can do our part as well, with our prayers and donations, such as to the Aid to the Church in Need (ACN).

    I have searched some Catholic organizations and other Catholic charities. Currently, they do not seem to sponsor programs to help alleviate the ongoing crisis in the Middle East.

    For those who want to donate through your country's ACN branch, please select the correct campaign (Middle East) when you donate.


    ACN article, published on its website, May 23, 2025
    For three months Gaza received no aid convoys, which meant that the parish had to ration the resources it has to feed the Christians within and some of the families that live nearby.

    The situation in Gaza, in the Holy Land, continues to be “very bad” according to Fr Gabriel Romanelli, who is responsible for the only Catholic parish in the territory.

    When the current war in Gaza broke out, the entire Christian population took refuge in the Holy Family Catholic parish and in the neighbouring Orthodox compound. The Catholic parish currently holds around 500 men, women and children, including a group of people with disabilities who are looked after by the Missionaries of Charity.

    Speaking to the pontifical foundation Aid to the Church in Need (ACN), Fr Romanelli explained that “inside the parish compound, we are doing as well as possible, though we hear a lot of shelling, and sometimes shrapnel reaches our compound”.

    Father Gabriel’s main challenge, he says, is to properly order and organise life within the parish. This involves keeping a regular schedule such as silent prayer in front of the Blessed Sacrament every morning and the recitation of the rosary and Mass in the afternoon.

    The many children in the parish have regular lessons, to try and save the academic year, and activities are organised for children, teenagers, and families, as well as Bible study groups that meet once a week.

    Resources that the parish receives from benefactors are distributed among all the residents and also among neighbouring Muslim families. However, Israel blocked access of any aid for the past three months. On 22 May, Israel permitted only 90 humanitarian trucks to enter Gaza—far below the estimated daily requirement of 500 trucks. This meant that the parish had to take more drastic measures.

    “For three months, we haven’t received any aid. So, for now, we’re rationing everything we have, and only after this rationing we can distribute it to the refugees in the compound and to people from outside,” explains the parish priest. Nonetheless, he told ACN that he recently managed to distribute water both inside and outside the compound.

    Gaza has been under siege since soon after the terrorist attacks of 7 October 2023, carried out by Hamas and other jihadist groups operating from the territory. Israel responded with a bombing campaign and a land invasion which continue until today, and which have caused dozens of thousands of deaths.

    Around 52 members of the Christian population, which before this war stood at around 1,000 people, between Orthodox and Catholic, have also been directly killed in these attacks or died of illnesses due to lack of medical attention.

    Though most are concerned merely with trying to survive, Fr Gabriel says that he has also detected signs of mental illness, including depression, among the faithful. “The most serious thing we see is that no one is talking about the end of the war or the right to stay here, or to rebuild homes, to start over,” he says.

    “So, we pray, and we ask people to pray and work for peace,” he concludes.

    By Filipe d’Avillez
    (https://acninternational.org/situat...ys-priest-nobody-is-talking-about-rebuilding/)

    “Aid for the Middle East remains a priority for ACN. Our goal is to give Christians hope and to support them in their efforts to remain in their homeland. After crises and wars, many people are finding it difficult to see any prospects for themselves. The escalation of the situation in Israel and the Gaza Strip has further exacerbated the situation in the Middle East. During the reporting year, ACN supported the Church in the region in more than 512 projects with a total budget of 19.2 million euros.”
    (https://acninternational.org/activity/middle-east/)
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Father Gabriel must be a saint
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    God bless you for posting this.
     
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  20. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    It is unreal how much aid that part of the world has received over the millennia and how devastated it always is. All the collections for Good Friday and all the other fund raising. It is like a pit of endless suffering. No matter how much good people do there are always those who destroy it.
     
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