As far as I remember from Blessed Catherine Emmerich's account it was not ordinary Jewish people who called for Christ's death but a kind of mob for hire group. A kind of rent a mob. Bad people. Also it was not actually the Sanhedrin as such who condemned Jesus but a portion or minority of the Sanhedrin who did not comprise a quorum and thus had no legal power. The fact that they met at night time tells us all we need to know. It was pretty well a kangaroo court and lynch mob really.
I think Jesus death was one example among many of this very powerful and profound quote from the Bible. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
It's all written in the Bible. They are guilty of death, Jesus tells Pilate that the greater guilt lies with those who handed him over to him. Saint Peter in the temple says that they are guilty, although not as guilty as their leaders, but that they did it out of ignorance. Acts 3:11-26 (NIV) 11 While the man held on to Peter and John, all the people were astonished and came running to them in the place called Solomon's Colonnade. 12 When Peter saw this, he said to them: "Fellow Israelites, why does this surprise you? Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. 14 You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. 15 You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this. 16 By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus' name and the faith that comes through him that has completely healed him, as you can all see. 17 "Now, fellow Israelites, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders. 18 But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Messiah would suffer. 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you—even Jesus. 21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 22 For Moses said, 'The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. 23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.' 24 Indeed, beginning with Samuel, all the prophets who have spoken have foretold these days. 25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your ancestors. He said to Abraham, 'Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.' 26 When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways."
There is such a great mystery as to why some people accept Jesus and others do not. Such a great, great mystery. But I don't think there is any doubt that it is an essential thing. Souls cannot reject Jesus and walk on regardless.
If you are interested in this topic about Jews and Israel, then it is enough for you to read Saint John Chrysostom, who is considered one of the greatest teachers in the early history of the Church and is celebrated by the Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant Churches... https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm It is an understatement to say that he was harsh, but he shows why they behave the way they do. You will understand from his sermon... Since the Church is the heir of the word, everything he said cannot cease to be valid in our time. It is long, but it is worth reading.
Probably so, all we know from the bible is: Matthew 27:16-26 New International Version 16 At that time they had a well-known prisoner whose name was Jesus Barabbas. 17 So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?” 18 For he knew it was out of self-interest that they had handed Jesus over to him. 19 While Pilate was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.” 20 But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
One thing stands out from the Trial of Jesus was that He was totally innocent. He never did anything wrong in fact as He said Himself He did nothing but go about doing good. The Romans had nothing against Him, Pilate did not want to convict Him, He knew he was innocent. The Jewish people as a whole appeared to revere Him. It was just a group of very powerful , wicked people in the Jewish religious establishment who wanted rid of Him. It reminds me of Cardinal Pell.
I think this is exactly right. But of course he HAD TO DIE. He was the sacrificial lamb of God. Just like 2,000 years later the church has to die (or appear to die) before it is resurrected. But once again we are reminded of the words: Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
That's so true. If you think about it, and about resulting questions - God also created our inner selves, there are reasons why we are the way we are - etc....phew, that's beyond my pay grade, but I'll always try again anyway^^
I think people these days make a great mistake. They think that people are evil because they do evil . But in this they put the cart before the horse. People do evil acts because they are themselves evil. Evil actions are merely the outer sign of an inner reality . People are not sent to hell because of their evil acts. No, they go to hell because they themselves are evil Because it is where they belong. Because hell is meant for evil people. So people these days believe in evil actions. But they very, very often do not believe in the existence of evil people. This sounds mad because it is, in fact, mad.
Yes. From time to time I feel the urge to create a thread about this topic. At the moment I'm spending my time on other topics, but there are questions I'd like to hear other faithful Catholics' thoughts and explanatory approaches. St Augustine and Thomas Aquinas are go to guys. But I'm also a bit unsteady, my main thematic focus changes quite often. So I usually have a lot more questions than answers and scripture has already told me once not to be haughty - salary grade...
In addition, I would like to reply briefly to the content. As far as I know, the Catholic Church has not fully adopted Augustine's view of predestination. People could be predestined to their evil role in the plan of salvation, in relation to the individual, this does not automatically mean being predestined for hell.
If I am understanding what you are saying correctly it would mean that everyone has an equal opportunity for being saved. However, God knows what will happen with each person because He stands outside of time and has planned accordingly.
Luke 6:45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.
The Fatima prayer: “ O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.” So God desires all souls to be saved. The three shepherd children were shown hell and they desired to pray and make sacrifices for poor sinners, as the Blessed Mother wished for them to do.
Yes!!! The key here is free will. What if there was no free will and our only choice was to be good and choose the path that leads to heaven! Where’s the merit? Several billion robots whose only option was to go to heaven. That’s where evil comes in and becomes a necessity in this world.
Yes, without the choice between good and evil there would be no freedom. This necessity of evil can then give rise to considerations of predestination. St Augustine dealt with this. But as far as I know, the church only received his doctrine of grace, but not his theology of predestination.
