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Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Jul 26, 2016.

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  1. Sorrowful Heart

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    I see lots of support for the Pope which is good. We always need to support the Office of the Pope no matter what since it was established by God. But the Office of the Pope and the Man who fills the position are two different things.

    My problem is that Pope Francis has made a litany of actions and statements which contradict the CDF since he took office, and he is not clarifying them. These controversial actions and statements all have the tone of modernism in them, the most recent one about all faiths wanting peace which he made in Krakow. Since Pope Francis does not clarify his statements/actions in relation to the CDF, it appears as though he is evading being labelled a heretic.

    All I have seen in his defence are theories and postulations. Much of which appear to be fuelled by emotionalism and not facts.
     
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  2. davidtlig

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    I think you have a misplaced understanding of the role of the CDF. The Church is led by the Pope, not the CDF. The CDF is there to help the Pope and the bishops who are in union with him.
     
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  3. Sorrowful Heart

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    86 "Yet this Magisterium is not superior to the Word of God, but is its servant. It teaches only what has been handed on to it. At the divine command and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it listens to this devotedly, guards it with dedication and expounds it faithfully. All that it proposes for belief as being divinely revealed is drawn from this single deposit of faith."48

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c2a2.htm
     
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  4. I would agree with you on this up to a few months ago Light, but the fruit from the forum is becoming increasingly sour this last while and a peaceful thread is hard to find. I think my time here is coming to a close.
     
  5. PotatoSack

    PotatoSack Powers

    Arghhhh...not another :(
     
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  6. Praetorian

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    I've always enjoyed your posts Border, and we all have to make our choices as to where we wish to spend our time. For me though the forum is a place to connect to a lot of other people and information of which I was unaware. The rancor that is going on here is merely a symptom of the confusion in the Church during these times. I fear in the future there won't be many Catholic places where we can go to find peace. The Church is in convulsions and it probably won't get better until after the Chastisement is completed. Prophecy tells us it will be shaken to it's foundations and possibly appear to have been destroyed. Then miraculously it will rise like Christ and be resurrected. Don't give up hope. God is permitting all of these things.
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Ernest Hemingway wrote one time that if things were not broken the light would never get to shine through, perhaps this is one such time.

    Christ's life and the lives of the saints was rarely peaceful
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    In fact for myself in Godless Western societies one of the most fearsome things is that everyone sings from the same song sheet of liberal poltical correctness all aquiesing to evil
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There are times we should worry when things get rowdy. Then again there are times we should worry when they don't get rowdy.
     
  10. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    I suspect that we are all about (as within in the next couple of years) to have a lesson in rowdyness - a rude/rowdy awakening so to speak. I suspect:whistle:
     
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  11. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    It is not interest in the devil...it is actual hand to hand combat. What more proof do you want. He is training people to actuall fight the DEVIL. These aren't classes on the spirituality of "the created one" ...but actual classes on confrontation with "the created one". Even though, I think this is the lowest form of mysticism...but it still can't be denied.

    As for why you haven't read any proof of our Holy Father being a mystic. That proof doesn't come out until after you pass. That means when your dead. Humility factor comes to play...and usually most mystics try to take the secrets with them to the grave. But God has other plans. An example is, Pope Benidict, he wants to destroy all his diaries once he dies. Not sure God will allow it...but what mystical wonders will be in those pages. The stories of mysticism of both st. John paul 2 and saint Teresa of Calcutta came out after they died. Asking for proof is like asking Jesus for a miracle.

    Its a very evil world...i believe God has many more mystics on earth then you believe. In fact, we are all mystics to a degree, by allowing the Holy Spirits to dwell (live) in a us.

    All good things come in threes...God has sent three powerful Popes to help us in this battle. John Paul 2, the preacher, who follows the the gifts of Our Lord
    Jesus Christ. Benedict, the teacher, who follows the gifts of the Father. Francis, the example, who follows the gifts of the Holy Spirit. If we really meditate on the three Holy Fathers...we see God had a master plan that has been guided by the Holy Spirit.

    Padraig...trust the Holy Spirit. He is guiding everything. Even you, at this moment...is being blessed. We have a potential seminarian. Not to say, it is all the site... but MOG might have played a role in this great blessing. And if God allows our Brother Sanctus to become a Priest...what greater blessing can come to MOG.

    Because of YOU we have a potential priest...St. Padraig. When you reach heaven St. Peter will ask "Why should I let this ornery Irishman through these gates". You will look in his eyes and say "look at all the people i brought with me (MOG Brothers and Sisters)." St. Peter will look back and see a bunch of ragtag saints. With a smile he will say "we have been waiting for you and your cohorts, you have kept us laughing in heaven. Welcome."


    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  12. padraig

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    No actually I knew quite a lot about both Pope St John Paul and St Tereasa of Calcutta and thier sanctity before they died. St Tereasa of Caluctta was one of the quickest canonised saints in all the Church's hoistory and of course at Pope John Pauls funeral the crowd cried , 'Sancto subito' (make him a saint quickly) . A good pointer to John Paul was the fact that he did his doctoral thesis on St John of the Cross. I have know other people who were saints . No matter how they might try to hide it a great light is hard to keep hidden.

    I am not altogether sure if saints always try to keep things under cover. I listened one time to a talk from an Archbishop o ne time who was a saint. He was quoting St Colombus from the office of the Hours. St Columbus was talking of th end stage of prayer and describing it as being like a boat finally coming into harbour. As the Archbishop was talking I was certain he was talking about the end stage of prayer, spiritual marraige. I asked him if he was in this stage and he told me quite simply that he was. This impressed me far more than any amount of hedging and false pretending. He told it like it was.

    I am not too sure about Pope Bendict I don't know enough to say, the same for Pope Francis.

    God I am sure has a master plan, I wich I could be as sure as yourself as to what it is.

    Please God we will all know the turth of things in heaven.:)

    I think one of the things for me that convinced me Mother Teresa was a saint was her relationship with the former English atheist , Malcolm Muggeridge, who was converted after meeting her:

     
  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    In fact I did get a very good message from the Blessed Virgin concrning directly, I believe for the Blessed Virgin from , believe it or believe it not 17th century Ecuador (then a new Spanish Colony) in a Church apporved apparition site there from the period, Our Lady of Good Success. I don;t think this find was an accident.

    Basically what Our Lady was saying abck then was that her messages referred to the period beginning in the 20th century when masons would take the helm and the world would be plunged in to a state of huge decadence. Our Lady made a whole series of prophesies which have since come true, but I would like to quote the message which I believe directly refers to Pope Francis. Recall this was made several centuries ago. Mind boggling . Anyway here we go:

    'Disastrous times will come unexpectedly, in which , by darkening their own clarity of vision, those who are bound in justice to defend the rights of the Church without servile fear or human respect , will extend thier hands to the enemies of the Church to do what the latter will want . But , woe to the erring of the wise man, the one who governs the CHurch , the shepherd of the flock which my bless Son has confided to his care! But when they appear triumphat and when their authority abuses its own power , commiting injustices and oppressing the weak its ruin is near. They will fall to the ground...!
     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I believe when Our Lady speaks of..

    'But , woe to the erring of the wise man, the one who governs the Church , the shepherd of the flock which my bless Son has confided to his care!

    She was in fact speaking and warning us several centuries ago about Pope Francis now.

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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Anyway I'd really, realy invite people to read this miraculous story, contained in this book, it is real warning and wake up call for our times:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwiS18iWysHOAhXLD8AKHcQ0BbgQ6AEIHDAA

    'On January 16, 1599, the Most Holy Mother of God appeared to Mother Marianna of Jesus Torres in the convent of the Convent of the Immaculate Conception in Quito, Ecuador, asking her to have a statue made of herself as she appeared, with the Child Jesus in her left arm and a crosier and the keys of the cloister in her right hand. Our Lady holds the crosier as a sign that she herself governs the convent and likewise asked that that her statue be placed in the throne of the abbess, where this statue is still kept to this day. The statue was consecrated by the bishop of Quito on February 2, 1611 with title, "Mary of Good Success of the Purification or Candlemas." During the various apparitions granted to Mother Marianna until her death on January 16, 1635, Our Lady of Good Success foretold the evils of our times in great detail. She was told that her visions and life would only be known beginning from the twentieth century, and was asked to help by her prayers and penances the souls of that time in which there would be an enormous decadence of the faith. It was God's will to reserve these revelations and the story of the life of Mother Mariana for our time, when the corruption of behavior is universal and the precious light of the faith is almost extinct, fulfilling the prophecies of Our Lady. The Mother of God also foretold that this devotion would obtain mercy and pardon for all sinners who have recourse to her with a contrite heart since she is the Mother of Mercy. Likewise she said, "The consoling title of Good Success... will be the support and safeguard of the faith in the presence of the complete corruption of the twentieth century." The novena presented here was written by Fr. Jose Urrate which has an imprimatur by the Archbishop of Quito, Carlos Maria de la Torre, on July 31, 1941."'

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  16. padraig

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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I should perhaps explain what has happened.

    About four hundred years ago in what is now Equador, God knew that in our own times a very well organised group of Masons would in fact take over control of the Church. So in preparation for this event Our Lady described in great detail , including the actual description of Pope Francis and his present actions .

    These messages for Our Lady have been hidden till now as Our Lady said until the time when they were to revealed. A kind of delayed bobby trap bomb if youlike that would unveal the secret plans of the consiparators.

    So it has come to pass and the secret evils plans are now revealed.

    When I was 15 years old shown the second part of this plan of heaven, a Marian Secret, The Pope who is to follow and destroy this sect in the Church. The promise given at Fatima to be brought forward, the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. In fact Our Lady of Good Sucess was a prequel to Fatima.

    The plans of the Masons/Satan in the Vatican are about to fall, because of events 400 years ago. Only God could have done this. 400 years a waiting.

    Praise be His name. The back of Satan is about to be broken in the Church. A Great Pope is about to be elected, the Masons are about to be defeated. Fools and children of hell.

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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't blame people for being confused, but this is the simple truth of the matter.

    READ THE BOOK
     
  19. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Our Lady of Zoro in her August 8th message continues to reiterate a split in the Church.
    "My children, I must ask you again for prayer, prayer for my beloved Church - there will be a great split in it - the walls of St Peter will tremble greatly, it will be shaken to its foundations, some walls will collapse but its foundations will remain solid".
     
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  20. padraig

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    But I should say all the messages from authentic sources indicate a very postive outcome, namely that the Immculate Heart of Mart will Triumph. That a great Pope/Saint is in the wings who wil lstart to set things straight.

    I think it is a bit like a boil that has to be let to come to a head before being pierced. These people have to come out into the open with their Satanic plans before ebing eliminated. Persoanlly I hope to see a Pope who will do excomunications on a very wide scale. Who beats these people with a steel rod, so to speak. Starting with the Cardinals first.
     
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