If Girkin is such a shadowy secret agent as this blogger you cite believes, then how do you know he is not engaged in what secret agents do best: diversion and disinformation. How can you take a word he says as true. Maybe he is a double-agent working for Kiev. Maybe there are "two-Girkins." LOL! Best to stick with reliable sources. This Girkin character doesn't sound like he qualifies.
Well, I'm going to step away from this discussion too. Just to clarify, from what I've read in the MOG forum it seems to be a majority opinion that Russia has not been consecrated. I agree, and backed it up with a quote from Cardinal Ratzinger that confirms this belief. Regarding Richard's opinion and the way it biases his analysis of Putin and Russia's current actions I stated "Diabolical disorientation" is Sr. Lucy's terminology, not mine. And I still think that is a correct assessment as there are no good guys in this Ukraine - Russia dispute.
Truth is not determined by consensus. The Church authorities have spoken authoritatively and definitively on the matter of the Consecration, citing Sister Lucia's own words. I'll take their word over yours. I am no more "biased" than the those who continually demonize Cardinal Bertone and Mr. Putin. Again, where is the outrage from Catholics in Ukraine over Poroshenko's unjust war against the Donbass and Western meddling in their affairs? Answer: there is none, only silence. I will not be silent while our Christian brothers and sisters in the Donbass are butchered by a Kiev Junta that enjoys full Western support. I am not afraid to offer fraternal correction to fellow Catholics, whether it be relatives in my family who voted for Obama or friends of mine who regurgitate Obama's State Department propaganda regarding the "Arab Spring" or the current situation in Ukraine. I also consider this forum as a virtual family and therefore when I hear some voices casting unproven suspicion on the statements of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith regarding the Consecration, it is my duty to speak up.
Your post is a good reminder of why I am a political atheist. It aint a case of good guys vs bad guys. They are all corrupt including your beloved Putin. Our redemption and salvation comes from on High and is not determined by the machinations of politicians.
Amen. “In the next war, nearly all will go to hell.” "Lucy said “One day, I went to her house to stay a little while with her. I found her seated on the bed, very pensive. ‘Jacinta, what are you thinking of?’ Jacinta replied, ‘About the war which will come. So many people will die, and almost all of them will go to hell.’ ”
Another prophecy....There will be great famine throughout the world. Paris will be destroyed by the Revolution and burned by the Russian atomic fire from Orleans and the region of Provins. While Marseille and the Riviera will collapse into the sea. http://radiocristiandad.wordpress.c...ractacion-y-con-mas-aparicionismo/#more-33726
Yes, our redemption and salvation comes from on High. Yet, Our Lady of Fatima came with a message with strong political implications. The correct interpretation of this message matters, in my opinion. I do not consider Putin my "beloved." I do not know the man. I certainly do not think he is the monster that Neoconservatives and Team Obama have painted him to be. I certainly do not believe he is the agressor in the Ukrainian conflict, as Neoconservatives and Team Obama have painted him to be.
I find truth in this blog post, a "post-Christian West" being the key here : Aaron Simmons 6 hrs · On Nov 25 2014 Russian Foreign Diplomat Sergey Lavrov said “Friends, what we are witnessing before our eyes is not some petty statement about the Ukraine or sanctions, it is the admission by Lavrov of a fundamental "clash of civilizations", but not between some wholly imaginary "Christian West" and Islam, but between Christian Russia and the post-Christian West”. Russian Bans homosexuality and LGBT rights and all affiliated propaganda Russian is one of the few countries in the world who is actively defending the God of the Bible During the G20 Summit in Australia, dialogue and evidence was shown to the world the United States government is supporting terrorism in the Middle East which is leading to Christian deaths. Russia was quoted in a UN Action on protecting Christians in the Middle East. Why hasn’t the U.S. initiated such an action? On Nov. 14, 2014, a Muslim prayer service was held at America’s “National House of Prayer.” Many prayer carpets were spread in the sanctuary; hundreds of Muslims turned their back on the cross; hundreds bowed toward Mecca and said, “There is only one god, he begets not (doesn’t have a Son) and I bear witness that Muhammad is His only servant and Apostle” (Jesus is not God’s Servant and there are not Twelve Apostles).
I second that! Strange as it may seem to our Western sensibilities, Mr. Putin is the last Christian leader of a Superpower. Hard to believe? Hardly, especially when one is willing to abandon all Nationalistic pretense and follow the truth where it leads. I think Fatima is more relevant than ever, and is playing out before our very eyes in Ukraine. Only this time, the tables have been turned and the West has become everything Our Lady of Fatima came to stop.
I think Fatima is more relevant than ever, and is playing out before our very eyes in Ukraine. Only this time, the tables have been turned and the West has become everything Our Lady of Fatima came to stop. I believe this to be true. Hard to imagine. Only time will tell.
Richard, who's tank's entered the Ukraine? Did someone steal Putin's tanks and servicemen? Surely Obama did not.
Fatima, where do you get the idea that Russian tanks are in Ukraine? According to the following report: "Both Pentagon and NATO are aware of a 'Russian invasion' rumor produced by Kiev official, but said they have no evidence to back it, instead claiming that Russia again boosted military presence along the border in yet another potentially threatening move. On Friday a spokesman for Ukraine’s National Security Council, Andrey Lysenko, has announced that Russia has sent 32 tanks, 16 howitzers, 30 trucks of ammunition and three trucks with radar equipment to rebel-held areas – offering no evidence of his claim. After the news made headlines in the western media, NATO rushed to reassure the press that the alliance was aware and“looking into these reports,” which if confirmed “would be further evidence of Russia's aggression.” Speaking to journalists, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby also could not confirm the reports. 'I don’t have any independent operational reporting that would be able to confirm that report that these formations have crossed the border,' Kirby said. The accusations of Russia’s “provocative”deployment of additional troops along its border with Ukraine provoked a sarcastic response from the Russian Defense Ministry, which said any concerns should better be addressed to those producing the rumors, rather than to Russia. “All such provocative ‘reports’ aimed at further escalating the tension over the civil conflict in southeast Ukraine have a single source. The source is not Ukrainian, although it currently operates from one of the governmental buildings in Kiev,” the statement said, apparently alluding to the heavy presence of American personnel in the Ukrainian Security Service...http://rt.com/news/203367-us-nato-russian-invasion/ Now, Fatima, as to how the separatists ended up with Russian hardware, that is no secret: they captured it from Ukrainian units they defeated. As I am sure you are well aware, Fatima, the Ukrainian Army uses Russian tanks, planes, guns, etc. As to the allegations that some Russians have been fighting alongside the separatists, this is no secret: even the Kremlin does not deny it. Many Russians are from the Donbass and have family there, so it would only natural for them to defend their friends and family. But there is no evidence of regular Russian army units operating in Ukraine. If the Russian army was in Ukraine, there would be no doubt about it. Putin acted in Crimea because he calculated that he could do so with minimal loss of life. The reason he has not yet intervened in the Donbass is because he must have calculated much higher casualties - on both sides - if there were to be an actual hot war between the Ukrainian and Russian field armies, which he does not want, since Russians view Kiev as the "birthplace of the Rus" and have friends and family in Ukraine. But Putin must also have calculated the point at which the civilian death toll in the Donbass requires Russian intervention; I think he is still hoping Poroshenko will do the right thing and voluntarily end his unjust war against the Donbass.
Christians in the west have to wake up! Putins government now says Russians can now carry guns for ‘self-defense’ on December 1, 2014 Posted In: RUSSIA While Americans face tough decisions and are being disarmed by their government Russia is moving in the opposite direction In an amendment to its tough gun control laws, the Russian government eases restrictions, allowing citizens to carry licensed weapons for the purposes of ‘self-defense.’
Russia Prepares for War Builds massive defense and super computer network Kurt Nimmo Prison Planet.com December 1, 2014 Russian media has announced the government is preparing for war. Russia Today reports the country now has a new fortified national defense facility located in Moscow that “would take control of the entire country in case of war.” The cost of the project is estimated at several billion dollars. “The creation of NDCC [National Defense Control Center] was one of the biggest military projects of the past few years. The closest analogy in the past in terms of functions and tasks was the Commander-in-Chief HQ in 1941-45, which centralized all controls of both the military machine and the economy of the nation in the interests of the war,” Lt. General Mikhail Mizintsev, the NDCC chief, said during an interview. The National Defense Control Center replaces an old facility that monitored nuclear weapons deployment by the West. It is compared to the U.S. National Military Command Center located deep inside the Pentagon that provides the Joint Chiefs with worldwide situation monitoring and crisis management. In addition to a number of large war rooms and an underground complex, the facility hosts a state-of-the-art supercomputer, RT reports. Described as “very robust,” the computer network features data encryption and numerous backup sites located around the country that will keep the center functional even if its main facility in Moscow is damaged by an enemy attack or sabotage. In 2013 Russia reported a Stuxnet attack on one of its nuclear power plants. Stuxnet is malware designed by the United States and Israel and was used to attack Iran’s nuclear program. The West has accused Russia of launching cyber attacks against NATO, EU ministries and Wall Street. In November, the Department of Homeland Security accused the Ruusians of inserting trohjan horse malware in critical U.S. infrastructure computers. It said the malware “is poised to cause an economic catastrophe,” ABC News reported. In 2001 the Pentagon declared a cyber attack on U.S. networks would be considered an act of war. The U.S. considers Russia and China as primary adversaries. Russian president Putin has accused the United States of rekindling the so-called Cold War in the wake of developments in Ukraine. In October he said his country will resist any attack by using all means at its disposal, including the nuclear option. “The US is now seen in Moscow as irredeemable and determined to destroy Russia, which must resist by reinforcing and rearming its military, investing in technological independence (the so-called import replacement or ‘importozamescheniye’), and by building a world-wide anti-US alliance,” the globalist Jamestown Foundation reports. Related posts: Russia launches ‘wartime government’ HQ in major military upgrade Russia prepares nuclear surprise for NATO Russia May Sell Syria Advanced Weapons as NATO Prepares to Attack Russia Unprepared to Deal With Space Alien Invasion – Official Russia Looks to Revive Nuclear Missile Trains to Counter U.S. Attack Capability This article was posted: Monday, December 1, 2014 at 11:24 am
Visions from Central Europe Part One: Overview Korkowski 1983: "Don't be fooled, the eastern bloc will feign peaceful compliance: with the opening and shifting of borders, with pact dissolutions or pretended suggestions of neutrality. Then, when you are factored out of Western protection, they will attack you just like unprotected game." Lucia, the last living seer from Fatima, 7 April 1990 (Fatima was 1917): "The events taking place in Europe are a deception. Russia will be the scourge for all nations, because it was not converted. Russia attacks the West, and China invades in Asia." Egger Gilge, Austria (1663-1735): "One day the red-skirted will come and then it will be terrible." Alois Irlmaier, Bavaria 1950: "The Russians do not stop anywhere while running in their three wedges. Day and night they run in order to reach the Ruhr district, where the many furnaces and chimneys are...." "It will be after the confusions in the balkans." Stockert, Munich 1947: "These tanks will come from the east and will drive with great speed to the west.... The tank troops of the Russians will come up to the Rhine." Erna Stiglitz, Augsburg 1975: "At the end of July Soviet attack wedges will rapidly advance against Western Europe." Brother Adam, Wuerzburg 1949: "At the same time sections of the Russian army will advance by West Prussia, Saxonia and Thuringia to the Rhine, in order to reach Calais and gain control of the channel coast." Biernacki, Poland 1984: "Next, the Red Army will strike against western Germany, exactly up to the French border." Johanson, Skandinavia 1907: "The assault from the east will (as predicted) happen on wide front between northern Scandinavia, Germany and northern Italy." "Germany will be attacked from the east." DaTerni, Italy 1971: "Austria and western Germany will be occupied by troops escorted by Soviet tanks." Rill, Germany 1914: (predictions known as "Feldpostbriefe") "And finally Russia will attack Germany...." Brandt, Germany 1962: "I saw Russian tanks march into Rottenburg (Neckar), it was a misty and cloudy day." Eilert (Jasper), Germany 1833: "From the east this war will break out. I am frightened of the east. This war will break out very fast." Curique 1872: "A terrible war will follow. The enemy will approach from the east like a flood."
If Lucy was saying Russia was not converted in 1990, doesn't that also imply that she felt Russia was not properly consecrated in 1984?