Does anyone Know?

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Padraig, I have a problem with the information contained in the link. I have not watched the video. On the website associated in the link, it refers to “the Prophet John Leary.”
    John’s bishop long ago ruled that there was nothing supernatural about John’s writings. In 2018, Fr Michel Rodrigue signed an affidavit stating that he was aware of what the Bishop stated about John Leary. Yet Father continued on a large scale to appear with Leary multiple times in 2019. I threw out my John Leary writings years ago because the Bishop ruled against anything supernatural being contained in them. This is the glitch that I keep coming back to in my discernment. If you read the info below the video you will see what I mean.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I must ask the person who sent me this information.:)
     
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  4. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    That is what is so difficult about prophecy, discernment. It is so very hard, especially now, to discern the spirit of all the people possibly receiving messages.

    For me, I love reading the apparitions and prophecy. And I have to ask myself why I like reading it. I go back and forth and question and pray and try and get an answer on things and in the end, I am just more confused. I would never say negative things to people who do have a clearer understanding because maybe the Lord has made things clear to them. And I enjoy reading things. Some things I ponder about and other things I dismiss.

    The pastor of our parish told my husband and I several years ago that the Warning , he feels, is eminent and soon, within a few years from when he told us. I have no reason to not believe him and I have been over and over in prayer about my pastors words and have never felt negatively about what he said. Is he a prophet, who knows but he is a good holy priest so he has that going for him.

    I will continue to read things as they are interesting. In the end though, I have to trust God is in charge and God's plan will unfold whether I believe in any of these things. All we can do is stay in a state of grace, pray, fast and trust in Our Lord.
     
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  5. Ed Kleese

    Ed Kleese Servant

    Padraig,

    The only thing that I can tell that Fr. Rodrigue said about this Fall was that something big was going to occur in the Month of the Holy Rosary (October). I don't believe it will likely be the warning because it seems (from his own words) that a minor tribulation will occur before the warning. He also said this summer would be a reprieve of sorts, granted to humanity to get our house's (spiritually and physically) in order. A lifelong confession should be made, our homes and properties should be blessed and offered up to God the Father for His own desired use in the coming times of the refuges, we should periodically go to confession and bless our homes with holy water (even after the consecration to the Father), receive the Eucharist, pray the Rosary, pray the prayer of our Guardian Angel and to St. Michael the Archangel, fast (bread and water is best if we can) as we can, and store up 3 months of food and water this summer during this quiet period. He assures us something big is coming in October but no where did I see that it would be the Warning, that seems to come later when things are much worse than they are now.

    Peace my Brother,
    Happy Easter Tuesday, Christ is Risen, Alleluia, Alleluia,
    Ed
     
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  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    An excellent synopsis Ed --

    I believe this outline by Fr Rodriguez is believable -- I am going to make a lifelong confession in the summer and get my house blessed and follow this general mandate (and if nothing happens nothing lost).

    But the warning will not come yet perhaps in a year or two when 'things are at their worst'.
     
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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The greatest impact of this virus will be economic -- there may be a bounceback in the Summer but I think we are going to see real difficulties in October -- I think we are going to see panic somewhat like the 1929 Wall Street Crash that happened in October --

    The October Effect
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/octobereffect.asp


    Investors' expectations have the ability to determine stock market performance, and unfortunately, this can work against equity prices. Since the early 20th century, the month of October has been associated not only with a lower stock market, but also prolonged bear markets, in which the stock market loses one-fifth of its value or more, and economic recessions. This has created a foreboding for market losses among investors when the calendar reaches the month of October each year.

    History
    When the stock market crash of 1929 occurred, it took investors by surprise. Weeks before the crash, the stock market reached a new high, and stock prices were 25 percent higher than in the previous year. By October, however, underlying weakness in the economy became apparent, and stocks lost nearly one-quarter of their value over two days, costing investors billions of dollars. This market crash ushered in that era's Great Depression, and the month of October has served as a constant reminder to investors of how quickly fortunes can reverse.

    September
    Considering that one of the worst months for the stock market is in September, it is not all that surprising that selling momentum would continue into October. Indeed, during the month of September, the S&P 500 Index -- an index that reflects trading in some of the stock market's biggest companies -- declined 5 percent or more in four of the 10 Septembers of the decade leading up to 2010. In the years when stocks advanced in September, the stock market advanced nearly 2 percent during the month of October.

    Reputation
    October has secured a place in history as the fourth worst month for the Dow Jones industrial average and the S&P 500 Index, two of the stock market's major averages. The "Stock Traders Almanac" has labeled October a jinx because of the frequency of market crashes that have occurred in the month, according to a 2012 "USA Today" article. The worst October ever was in 1987, when the stock market declined more than 23 percent.

    Emotions and Seasons
    Investors' emotions can turn negative when the calendar changes from summer to fall, and this influences stock market performance. In the fall months, after summer vacations are basically over and the sun sets earlier, investors' moods lean toward the gloomy. As a result, negative economic or market developments in these months can cause overreactions, according to a 2009 MSNBC article. If investors were contemplating selling stocks before, a negative development can make the decision easier and motivate investors to dump shares


     
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  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Consider this virus as the destabliser of the world economy -- we are in for turbulence --
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Garabandal, this article was written last October. Perhaps things will play out differently after we emerge from the pandemic this summer. Perhaps the market will gain strength then instead of becoming an unstable bear market this year in the Fall. This is my hope and prayer.
     
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  10. Glenn

    Glenn Garabandal Expert

    My personal feeling ( which means nothing ) is that the they will both ( the Warning and the Miracle ) happen between Feb. & April. (obviously not this year). We know already that the Miracle is in April, and we know that the Warning is in an "even Year", and we also know that Mari loli also said ,when pressed, that the Warning & Miracle are in the ". SAME YEAR". I just get the feeling God will give that 4-8 weeks needed for everyone to realize what the Warning was, and alert them to the upcoming Miracle in April.
     
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  11. Glenn

    Glenn Garabandal Expert

    TO BACK UP MY STATEMENT ABOVE:

    "We Now Know That The Miracle Will Happen In The Month Of April ..."

    Interview with Father Gustavo Morelos

    Reprinted with permission from The Vigil January - April 1988

    While in Rome, Maria Saraco met with Father Gustavo Morelos on May 6,1986, and did a tape-recorded interview with him. Father who is Mexican was ordained a priest 28 years ago. He is the founder of "The Sons of The Divine Will." He conducted a serious 3-month study of the Garabandal Apparitions with the permission of his bishop during his stay there in 1965. He was also a great and personal friend of Padre Pio. Father Morelos is responsible for introducing Our Lady of Carmel of Garabandal to the entire South American part of the world.

    Q. Did Conchita ever reveal anything special to you?
    A.
    Well, she used to say to me that if I guessed the day of The Miracle that she would tell me, so I would try to guess the date but I never did. Every time I would give her a date she would say, "No that's not it." Until one time she said, "I will help you to guess. It will happen between the months of February and July and it will be between the 7th and the 17th, but I will not tell you which year." She assured me that The Miracle would not happen in the month of May. I enjoyed talking to Conchita about this while trying to guess the date... Of course, only Conchita knows the exact date and year which she will announce 8 days before it happens.

    However, in the book, "Miracle at Garabandal" authored by Harry Daley; page 89, Conchita is quoted as saying, "I will also tell you that it (meaning the Miracle) is going to happen either in April or May. Since she had already assured Father Morelos back in 1965 that the Miracle would not happen in May, it can safely be concluded that April must be the month in which it will take place. I spoke to Conchita about all these details as recent as April 25, 1988 during a telephone conversation, and while she was not able to recall saying what she did to both Father Morelos and Harry Daley, commenting that she had not read his book, she did not deny saying them nor did she contradict April as being The Miracle month. I pointed out that I intended to publish this information in "The Vigil" unless she said it was not true which she did not do, rather her reply was, "You can do what you want."
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    Mari Loli “Warning even year”

    Warning in EVEN year - “Suddenly & Unexpectedly”pg 93.


    - We know that the Warning must precede the Miracle. I happen to know, as per Maria, that Mari Loli had at one point been questioned by a priest who was trying to extract the year of the Warning from her. She would not tell him. Finally, he asked if she could at least tell him if it was an even or odd year. She relented and told him that it would be an even year.

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    1975 Warning interview with Mari Loli: SAME YEAR ?


    Mari Loli
    July 27, 1975

    Q. You have said that you know the year of the Warning. Can you tell us if it will occur in the next few years or is it still in the distant future?
    A. No. I can't say anything.
    Q. Did the Blessed Mother tell you not to speak about the Warning?
    A. No, she didn't , but, because the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year, I feel it inside not to say anything.
    Q. How do you know the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year"
    A. During an apparition-I don't remember just when- the Blessed Virgin told me.



     
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  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I hope and pray not yet. I am a glass half
    full person. We shall see. We need to be healthy first. God is in charge. “Unless the Lord build the house, they labor in vain who build it.” We may make educated guesses, but we do not know how we will rebound from this pandemic. A priest from Sensus Fidelium compared this to the trial of Job, and “the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning.”
    I have no doubt that the Deep State would like nothing better than to bring us to our knees economically, but they are not with God.
    I see folks catching up on goods and services that were denied to them during this crisis. BIG TIME.
     
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  13. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    Well said Tanker.
     
  14. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I've always had great trust in Our Lady of Good Success who promised her intervention and triumph in the beginning of the 21st century, since her timetable has otherwise been flawless. The latest year I would list as still in the beginning of this century would be 2030. I also believe in the authenticity of the Warning and the following Chastisement as a prelude to the Triumph. In my heart, therefore, I believe the Warning will take place most probably in early 2022 followed by the April Miracle. This is neither a prophecy nor a prediction, just a probable list of dates.

    This whole debacle with the covid-19 virus, the shutdown and its horrific effects on the world economy which are only just now playing out, speaks to me of an unfolding global crisis needing a global heavenly solution.

    Dear Lady, I pray for and look forward to the Triumph of your Immaculate Heart and the manifest Reign of your Son in this decade.:cool::coffee:

    Jesus, we trust in you!
     
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  15. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Personally I think we have some serious sufferings too endure over the next 2 years, although God in His Great Mercy will give us some reprieve times!, so we can draw our breaths (so to speak) but we need to be consistent in our prayer life, do not drop the ball!

    I think we will (the world) suffer something extra near the end of 2020 ( that is the presence of Our Lord (in the world) will be massively reduced, somehow, I don't know how), at this time I feel we are to keep your family close (maybe this means through prayer)!

    Through 2021 we are to depend on God alone as we may not have the sacraments! and many secular infrastructures may be depleted , it will be a hard year for all. ( I think many people may succumb to despair, we are to pray for our fellow mankind)

    In 2022 the world will receive the greatest gift of Gods Mercy. I believe the world will be at its worse and the warning will be granted to mankind!

    These are just my meditations.:)

    They may be way off!:barefoot:

    But let us keep our lamps full of oil....That is by our repentance of our sins, fasting, penance, spiritual communions, the prayers of the rosary, the stations of the cross, the Divine Mercy chaplet, the chaplet of the sorrows of Mary, our invocation and recourse to St Joseph and to St Michael, and all our patron saints and angels; so we stay prepared at every moment.

    God Bless us all, Amen
     
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  16. Carmel333

    Carmel333 Powers

    I'm someone who has had personal locutions with Jesus since Feb 1997. He rarely tells me prophecy, although one year before 2005 I think He told me Oct 25th or something would be the date of the Warning. He did not tell me the year. I too must be VERY careful what I hear at all times, and since I am a 3rd Order Carmelite I am blessed to have that guidance from the Church. At the time I was not sure if what I heard was from Jesus. I was living on a property that had lots of demonic activity because of a native American war there that occurred in 1857 so although Jesus kept me safe while I was there, I never what would be trying to impersonate Him to me if I were looking for an answer. I have always felt very drawn to Garabandal, perhaps because I had such a HUGE personal warning on my conversion, and perhaps because it started the year I was born, but I remember during my warning Jesus told me He would personally appear to everyone in the world and warn them. That was in 1997, and then about a year later I first learned of Garabandal on EWTN and ordered a piece of the kissed missal in a medal. I sewed it to my scapular and wear it always.
     
  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I have a different take on discernment about prophecy. For me it is not so hard. I read what is given and then I compare it against what scripture say's and what the church teaches and if nothing is contrary to either, I discern whether what is being said is contrary to the prophetic consensus of both approved church prophecy and then credible alleged prophecy, using the grace, reason and discernment God has given me.

    When I read what was alleged in the start of this thread, I dismiss it right away, because I know what slander against God's prophets can do. This comes not from God, but his adversary. It's called rumors. You know, like ones we all know growing up. Someone say's something and others without knowledge or discernment repeats it and pretty soon the bandwagon of rumors and 'he said she said' begins. It takes nothing to discredit a person or in this case a prophet, but as we know from experience, sometimes a good person cannot get back their reputation with slander thrown their way. I don't play this game. If I hear of something alleged, it is not my nature to jump on the bandwagon to dismiss at bay. Based on my faith life, study and experiences, it is not my nature is to disbelieve accusations until proven to be true. I will do the same with this rumor and be at peace. I have watched/listened enough of this prophet Father Michel to know he is the real deal. It is true with other prophets that have bee slandered on this forum without just cause. We are living at the very end of an age. God promised to send his prophets to educate prepare our way. God gave us through the light of faith a mind to discern. Some will listen and follow, others will dismiss and criticize what they do knot understand.
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I got an email to this effect too. Hopefully Fr Rodriquez will clarify.

    I look forward to watching all his videos now. His spirituality reminds me very much of St Phillip Neri, who apparently, never stopped laughing and had also a wonderful people touch.
     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think I have found one good tip about such special graces has been to step back from them and to wait and see. Time gives them greater clarity. St Teresa of Avila indicates that the reality of such graces is that they imprint themselves on our hearts, like repeated knockings on the door. That which is real impresses most deeply.

    It is a bit the same as meeting an actual saint. When you meet one even for just a minute or two it impresses itself on the heart for ever and ever.
     

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