Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I think the Archbishop is only trying to protect his flock. I am sure it was an agonizing decision for him. Not going to Mass would be a tremendous spiritual loss, but honestly if there was a bad outbreak of the virus in my area I would make any sacrifice necessary to protect my family, and community even if it meant watching the TV Mass. If it were impossible to make arrangements with my parish to receive Communion on an individual basis, I would resort to a spiritual Communion. In dire circumstances I trust that God would understand. My response might be very different if I lived alone and led a quiet life, but such is not the case for me.
     
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  2. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    No one is going to “officially” say it, but the genetic circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly points to Covid19 being an escaped bioengineered virus.

    Not necessarily a “bioweapon” per se, but a viral line they were engineering to develop a vaccine with broad efficiency across all the coronaviruses.

    Only AFTER they developed an effective vaccine for their own people could it be used as a bioweapon.

    That’s why the idea they deployed it against themselves, or a western country deployed it against them, is preposterous. There is no effective vaccine.

    All the experimental vaccines against coronavirus developed to date killed their research animals because it set up a hyper immune reaction in the host that flooded and drowned the lungs with immune fluid when challenged by the live virus.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...es-new-questions-about-origin-deadly-covid-19
     
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  3. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Frightening. :eek:
     
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  4. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I bought a box of coarse Kosher salt today and am taking it with me to Mass tomorrow. Will see how the Priest reacts and let you know. I have never had blessed salt before, but do have holy water on hand. Kathy
    QUOTE="Dolours, post: 272550, member: 4707"]Like you, I grew up believing that blessed objects cannot be bought or sold. I'm not so sure that the rule hasn't been relaxed to permit the sale of blessed objects provided they are not being sold at a profit.

    I know what you mean about the quick Father, Son and Holy Spirit blessing with a wave of the hand that's meant to be the sign of the Cross. I have no blessed salt and am wondering whether the SSPX priest would do an old-fashioned blessing if I were to bring my tub of salt to their Sunday Mass and waylay the priest for a blessing afterwards. It seems kind of cheeky but my options are very limited.[/QUOTE
     
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  5. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Amen. It saddens my wife and I that bishops and pastors have such little faith to withhold the precious blood during flu season. Really? These are men given the Holy Orders who supposedly believe in the true substantiation by their own hands. It boggles my mind that they would truly believe in that miracle they initiate occurring at every Mass, and then have fear that God would allow us to pass a disease to one another while receiving that miracle.

    "O ye of little faith" :(
     
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  6. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I can relate. I have had a couple of awkward encounters when asking for items to be blessed that left me discouraged. As a result I could never summon the courage to bring a tub of salt for a blessing. I certainly hope you have a wonderful and holy experience. Let us know how you make out.
     
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  7. I was thinking to myself that I was a wrong in dismissing parts of the prophecies from Father Michel from Canada. He was correct in stating that something disruptive was coming right up. I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have a priest that will be on hand at your pilgrimage/refuge site for the availability of the sacraments? I hope you will. I do believe that we are called to have a very deep faith at the moment and it seems like that only is available through much, much prayer.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    That is not the only difficulty with this.

    These is no certainty that when you get it and recover you will be immune. It may well be that when we recover we could go on to get it multiple times.

    Also it may well be this virus, terrible as it is, mutates to something even worse as such things very often do.

    Recnt resaerch from Los Alamos Laboratory shows that it had an RV of 11. Which means that for every person he gets it they infect up to 11 other people. The only thing slowing it down is the huge shut down in China. But it is unstoppable now.

     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation contributed to having a vaccine developed last Fall. They initiated a pandemic drill in October 2019.
     
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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you, Brian!
     
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  11. MMM

    MMM Archangels

    My wife and I went on vacation in Mexico and I wasn’t feeling great one morning...turns out it was Corona
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  12. soldier of christ

    soldier of christ Archangels

    For the past couple of years now, we have a custom at our Polish church that a Polish traditional Easter basket is blessed on Holy Saturday before Easter. The basket contains all the traditional Easter foods items like ham, kielbasa, butter, eggs and such. Salt is one of the food items. So I always make sure to put a very large bag of salt in my basket so it will be blessed and I have it to use through the year.
     
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  13. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    I have full Faith and Trust in our Lord.
    If He permits that we get infected, and even die, because of assisting at Holy Mass, it is but His Will.
    No one can die unless it is already his/ her time to go, as determined by God alone.

    Imho, to take away worship of God in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a terrible decision. Where is our Faith in Him?

    In this time of need, we should have more masses said, and beg the Father to hear our prayers because we offer them up in union with the most pure Lamb of God, sacrificed on the altar.

    Consider how so many Catholics throughout the world risk their lives to go to underground masses, if and when they can find such masses.
    I would much rather die than not have Mass.



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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Does that include half sour pickles? Someone once told me that he went to another city to get them for his Polish wife for Easter.
     
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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Sg, my prayers are with you and all of us.
     
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  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Preciousbloodinternational.com

    Catholic sacramentals and blessed salt
    You buy the salt from them, they bless it after the sale and before they send it.
    They say they bless it for you.
    I have purchased from them before.
     
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  17. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Providentially, this is the first year that I was at the vigil of Epiphany's blessing of water and salt at the TLM chapel.
    And we got the blessed chalk and incense at the Epiphany TLM the next day.

    So this year, my family did the blessing of our home the traditional way, with chalking of the doors, incensing and sprinkling with Holy water and blessed salt while reciting the prayers.:love:

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  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I don't know about your area but here in the PNW I have had mixed results with parish priests that do not offer the Latin rite of the mass. On candlemass last year the visiting priest at our local parish looked at the group of us who had brought candles for the blessing as if we were mad.
    However, here everyplace I have been that offers the old rite has a specific day after mass that they will provide blessings for salt, oil, objects, rosaries, etc. Just ask and they will be glad to let you know the customary day. As well, I see these priests after mass giving blessings often.
    It is almost as if some priests are ashamed of these things. I find it sad and a little humiliating to be looked at this way but it is what it is.
     
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  19. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

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  20. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I am not at all up to date on this topic but I thought that I would post the following anyway. I apologize if this was posted already in some shape or form. This thread is moving way too fast for me to keep up at the moment.

    Coronavirus: White House ‘disappointed’ in China’s lack of transparency
    • ‘Some surprise’ at ‘numbers jumping around’, Larry Kudlow says as Beijing announces surge of 15,152 new cases after change in diagnostic criteria
    • Senior economic adviser says Beijing won’t let US experts into country, laments lack of promised cooperation
    Agence France-Presse| Published: 4:01am, 14 Feb, 2020 Updated: 4:09am, 14 Feb, 2020 | https://www.scmp.com/news/world/uni...2/white-house-disappointed-chinas-coronavirus

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    White House economic advisor Larry Kudlow speaks during a television interview at the White House on Thursday. Photo: TNS
    The United States feels let down by a lack of transparency from China over the coronavirus crisis, a senior White House official said on Thursday.

    “We are a little disappointed that we haven’t been invited in and we’re a little disappointed in the lack of transparency coming from the Chinese,” Larry Kudlow, the director of President Donald Trump’s Economic Council, told reporters.

    “These numbers are jumping around … there was some surprise,” he added.

    Beijing on Wednesday announced a surge of 15,152 new cases because of a change in diagnostic criteria. The new criteria included a “clinical diagnosis” of cases, using CAT scans by doctors in Hubei province, where Wuhan is located. Earlier updates had relied solely on the results of lab tests.

    China’s Hubei province reports huge spike in coronavirus cases, rising 10-fold from previous day
    Trump last week praised his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping for his government’s response to the outbreak, which has officially killed more than 1,300 people and infected 60,000.

    But Kudlow said that unanswered questions were mounting and there was no sign of the promised cooperation.

    “President Xi assured President Trump that China was on it and there would be openness, they would accept our help,” he added.

    “We’re more than willing to work with the UN [and] WHO on this and they won’t let us. I don’t know what their motives are. I do know that apparently more and more people are suffering over there.”

    “Is the Politburo really being honest with us?” he asked, referring to communist China’s top leadership body.

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    Kudlow predicted that the economic impact would be “quite minimal” for the United States, but said that fears over the coronavirus were creating “uncertainty”.

    “If we don’t get good information out of China, it’s very hard for us to make a decent assessment,” he said.

    Additional reporting by Reuters
     
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