Another case for 2017

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Rosa, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

     
  2. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    Thank you
     
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  3. O bliss of that day when the conspiracies, retaliations, struggles of this earth, of Satan, of the flesh will be over forever! My Church will then be made up of real Christians, in that time, in the next-to-last day. Few, as in the beginning, but holy as in the beginning. The Church will end in holiness as it began in holiness. Liars, betrayers, idolaters will stay outside, those who on the last day will imitate Judas and sell their souls to Satan, harming Christ's Mystical Body. In them the Beast will have its replacements for its last war.

    And woe betide those in Jerusalem (the Church), in the end times, who become guilty of such a sin. Woe betide those who in Jerusalem will exploit their authority for human advantage. Woe betide those who openly disown God and those who disown Him by their actions, I will make no difference. And in truth I tell all of you, with the sorrow of a sublime Founder, that at the last hour three quarters of My Church will disown Me, and I will have to cut them off from the tree trunk as dead branches infected by an unclean leprosy.

    But you who will remain in Me, listen to Christ's promise. Faithfully and lovingly wait for Me and I will come to you with all My gifts. With the gift of gifts: Myself. I will come to redeem and heal. I will come to floodlight the darkness, defeat it and rout it. I will come to teach people to love and worship the Eternal God, the Lord Most High, the Holy Christ, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. I will come to bring you not the peace of this world, the endless destroyer of Peace, but the Peace of the Kingdom that does not die.

    Exult, O My faithful servants. This is what the mouth that does not lie tells you. You will no longer have to fear any evil because I will put an end to the time of evil, I will anticipate this end out of compassion for My blessed ones.

    Exult especially you, O today's beloved of Mine. For you the coming of Christ and His embrace of glory will be even more solicitous. For you the gates of the City of God are already opening and your Savior is coming out to greet you and give you real Life.

    Yet a little more and I will come for you. As I did for My friend Lazarus, I will call you one by one: 'Come out!' Out of this life on earth which is a grave for the spirit jailed in the flesh. Into Life, into Heaven's freedom.

    Call Me with your faithful love. Let it be the blaze that melts the chains of the flesh and gives the spirit the freedom to come quickly to Me. Utter the best cry ever written by a man: 'Come, Lord Jesus!'.


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    Written by Maria Valtorta, October 29th, 1943.

    From THE END TIMES as Revealed to Maria Valtorta.

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  4. More Maria V:



    Priests & Ministers as Stars Guiding the Multitudes. From THE NOTEBOOKS 1943, July 23.

    Jesus says:

    "When the time comes, many stars will be shaken from the coils of Lucifer, who, in order to win, needs to diminish the lights of souls.

    This can happen because not only lay people, but also ecclesiastics have lost and are increasingly losing the firmness of faith, charity, strength, purity, and detachment from the seductions of the world needed to remain in the orbit of God's light.

    Do you understand who the stars I am speaking about are? They are the ones I have described as salt of the earth and light of the world: My ministers.

    Satan's piercing malice studies the way to extinguish these luminaries, that are lights reflecting My Light for the multitudes, by shaking them. If, with all the light the priestly Church is still emitting, souls are sinking deeper and deeper into darkness, the kind of darkness which will crush the multitudes when many stars fade out in My sky is obvious.

    Satan knows this and sows his seeds to prepare the weakness of the priesthood, so as to be able to overwhelm it easily in sins, not so much of sense as of thought. In mental chaos it will be easy for him to provoke spiritual chaos. In spiritual chaos the weak, faced with the flood of persecutions, will commit the sin of cowardice, denying the faith.

    The Church will not die because I will be with her. But she will experience hours of darkness and horror similar to those of My Passion, multiplied over time because it must be that way.

    The Church must suffer what Her Creator suffered, before dying to rise again in an eternal form. The Church must suffer much longer because the Church, in her members, is not perfect, like her Creator, and if I suffered for hours, she must suffer for weeks and weeks of hours.

    As she rose persecuted and nourished by supernatural power in the early times and in her best children, exactly the same will happen to her when the last times come, during which she will exist, subsist, and resist the Satanic tide and the battles of the Antichrist with her best children. A painful, but just selection.

    It is logical that, in a world where so many spiritual lights will be extinguished, there will be manifestly established the short-lived, but tremendous reign of the Antichrist, generated by Satan just as Christ was generated by the Father. Christ, the Son of the Father, generated by Love with Purity. The Antichrist, the son of Satan, generated by Hatred with the threefold Impurity.

    Like olives between the wheels of the oil press, the children of Christ will be persecuted, squashed, and crunched by the voracious Beast. But not swallowed, for the Blood will not allow them to be corrupted in spirit. Like the first ones, the last will be cut down like sheaves of ears of grain in the final persecution, and the earth will drink in their blood. But eternally blessed for their perseverance are those who die faithful to the Lord."

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    You (Fr. Migliorini, her spiritual director) told me to understand John, his epistles and the Apocalypse had to be read. I took up the Bible and opened it at random, where the writings of the Beloved Disciple are. It opened for me at chapter twelve. The Master explains it to me this way.

    I notice that some days ago Jesus used a similar phrase to comment on the spiritual maternity of Mary, which is thought to be concealed in the woman clothed in sunlight. But Jesus is not speaking about Mary today. He is speaking about the militant Church in the last times. I will read the Apocalypse carefully, hoping in Jesus, that He will be my light to understand it.

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    Written by Maria Valtorta
     
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  5. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    I love this Voice!
    This was all predicted by Daniel. But the translators of Bible must think, that all men are stupid! I read prophet Daniel in original hebrew and some words are totally manipulated. Dan 8, 10-14: WaTigdal (And he was magnified) ad (until) caba (army) haŠamayim (of Heaven) waTapel (and cast down) arca (to ground) min (from) haCaba (this army) umin (and from) haKokavim (these stars) waTirmsem (and stamped on them). Wead (and to) sar (prince) haCaba (of this army) higdil (he magnified) umimmenu (and on) harim (mountains) huram (offered) haTamid (the Daily Sacrifice) weHušlak (and was cast down) mikon (place) mikdašo (of his Sanctuary). WeCaba (And army) tinaten (was set) al (over) haTamid (the Daily Sacrifice) bePaša (in transgression) waTašlek (and was cast down) emet (truth) arca (to ground), wAsta (and so was practiced) weHiclikha (and it prospered). WaEšma (And I heard) ehad (one) kadoš (saint) medaber (spoke) waYomer (and said) ehad (one) kadoš (saint) laPalmoni (to that certain) haMedaber (that spoke): Ad (Until) matay (when) heKhazon (the vision) haTamid (of the Daily Sacrifice) weHaPeša (and the transgression) šomem (of desolation) tet (given by) weKadeš (both Sanctuary) weCaba (and army) mirmas (is trampled)? WaYomer (And said) elaI (unto me): Ad (until) ereb (evenings) boker (mornings) aplayim (two thousand) uŠloš (and three) meot (hundred). WeNicdak (And will be cleansed) kodeš (Sanctuary)
    And then second period of Antichrist (Dan 12,11): UMeEt (And from time) husar (is removed) haTamid (the Daily Sacrifice) weLatet (and set up) šikuc (abomination) šomem (of desolation) yamim (days) elep (thousand) matayim (two hundred) weTišim (and ninety).
     
  6. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    And also this:
    "He will be someone very high up, high up like a heavenly body; not a human star that shines in a human sky, but a heavenly body from a supernatural sphere. Giving in to the enemy's enticement, he will experience pride after humility, atheism after faith, lust after chastity, the craving for gold after evangelical poverty, the thirst for honors after concealment."
    I have wondered who this "someone very high up" will be or is? It would seem to be someone in the Church.
     
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  7. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    2017 is 100th anniversary of communism, 500th anniversary of Luther, 300th anniversary of Freemasonary. Again 153. The order of anniversaries is according to the influence on the salvation of souls.
     
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  8. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    Someone who has two horns (mitra), Judas of End times (apostels were bishops), someone who offers Sacrifice on 7 mountains, where is Sanctuary and place of the Prince of army of heaven (church). It will be the last pope. After the resignation of Francis and death of Benedict we will him know on 100% But this prophecy is not only about Antichrist, but also about all bishops-Judases, who penetrated in the top of Catholic Church
     
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  9. Wondering if "high up" from a "supernatural sphere" could be a member of the hierarchy/Cardinal...with the "two horns".... (among many other willing bishops who would follow him) who is very high ranking in Masonry which gets its power from Lucifer himself and thus "embodies" Lucifer....that heavenly body from a supernatural sphere....all for the temptation of pride, lust, craving for "gold"/materialism of this world. Such an individual could become the AC's false prophet, as a formerly high ranking individual/shepherd of the traditional Church which would give him respect, esp. for those who still wish to follow only the "structure" of the Church and wish to have a comfort/security of someone they consider as part of their traditional church. He could then draw many believers of the world to this NWO church of the AC. He would have given up any remnant of former humility, faith, chastity, poverty....fulfilling his formerly concealed thirst for honors!! It could be someone very much trusted for all of the outward appearances of traditional obedience and saying all of the expected traditionally right things...while concealing his real motives.!!
     
  10. I feel as though we are very close to events. Blessed Mother is revealing to me who the "real" Catholics are...I mean to say, she is showing me those who have the True Faith in their hearts and souls. Plus, we are supposed to be praying for them, and for the others to be saved in the True Faith.
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    We know that the 7 heads in the book of Revelation, according to our Lady through Father Gobbi, represents 7 Masonic Lodges around the world where the AC will execute his lawlessness and evil designs. It would make sense then that the False Prophet works within this structure of Freemasonry as well and that he must be within the rank of Cardinal's to assume the false papacy.
    "The seven heads indicate the various masonic lodges, which act everywhere in a subtle and dangerous way. This Black Beast has ten horns and, on the horns, ten crowns, which are signs of dominion and royalty. Masonry rules and governs throughout the whole world by means of the ten horns". —alleged message to Fr. Stefano, To the Priest, Our Lady’s Beloved Sons, n. 405.d-e
     
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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    None of that will happen until the very end. First the bulk of the Jews have to be brought into the Church. Then there will be a period of peace before the great apostasy. Then the false prophet precedes the reign of the AC who will most likely be of Jewish descent.

    Just editing this to add that from what I have read of Maria Valtorta, her visions don't have Church approval.
     
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  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    And who do you say the "Great Babylon" is?
     
  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The Jews and all others who come into the Church will do so by their fiat to God at the Warning. The apostasy is already in motion. The false prophet will work with the AC to persecute the faithful from the Illumination of Conscience till the New Earth is established.
     
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  15. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    You are using unapproved prophecies in your calculations. The faith must first be spread to the ends of the earth. The Church is growing in Africa and Asia where the great apostasy isn't even on the horizon. We don't know what will bring the Jews into the Church but it won't happen until very near the end and that could be thousands of years from now.
     
  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Everyone alive will know God's truth via the Warning. Everyone will know the Church Jesus founded is the Catholic Church. Everyone will know the love God has for his mother. The details of evangelization will come after the Warning and before the purification is completed, his temporal kingdom on earth is established, the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart and the 1000 years of rest take place. This is the consensus of Catholic prophecy. The great apostasy is well underway and it will climax with all who will reject the Warning. Everyone will have said yes or no to God's truth at that time. The apostasy will have it greatest moment by all who reject the warning, as they will know Jesus, his church and his mother and reject it all.
     
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  17. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    What approved Catholic prophecy specifies that there will be a warning that will evangelise the whole world? Our Lady of Fatima said that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph. "In the end" is not 1000 years before the Second Coming of Christ. Before the Second Coming we must first see the full complement of Gentiles brought into the Church and after that the conversion of the Jews. There's a period of peace before the False Prophet, the great apostasy and the reign of the AC. Then the end.
     
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  18. Beg to differ
    I agree with Fatima, and to me, I feel in my soul that events are close, the Warning is close
     
  19. Dolours, I believe you are talking about the time when the Lord comes back, after the Era of Peace, and there is another evil outbreak before satan is finally chained for good, before the Final Judgment
    personally, I cannot help but see the apostasy all around me
    and I believe that the antichrist is not only born, but almost ready to step on the world stage....we probably already know who he is, some of us
     
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  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    We have a long way to go and the Church has a great deal of suffering to endure before the great apostasy. What we are facing, particularly in Western Europe, is what Christians in the Middle East have been experiencing since Islam became the predominant religion in that region, what Christians endure in other regions of the world where they are are a minority, what Christians endured and are enduring in Communist countries, and what Catholics endured after the Reformation. I'm sure that persecuted Catholics in the past had a far greater reason that we to believe that the AC was about to show his face but he didn't and he is unlikely to show up in our lifetime.

    We are to expect minor Anti-Christs before the head honcho shows up. There have been a few scattered throughout history, there are some now and will be more in the future before we see The AC but a whole lot of other developments need to occur first - developments that could take generations, even centuries. Sure, we're seeing the groundwork being laid and we're starting to see how things will pan out but there are no signs that the climax is even close. We will not see Jesus return to earth until he comes to defeat the AC when all seems lost and only the remnant will hold out. Jesus will come on a cloud to the Mount of Olives at the very end. We can expect some temporary era of peace before the False Prophet prepares the way for the AC but Jesus won't be coming to usher it in.
     
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