Sign after sign after sign...

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Torrentum, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. miker

    miker Powers

    I don't doubt we are in very dangerous times, but I don't see this issue much differently than other "scraps" that have occurred in this country since it's founding. No doubt we have a very messy system and at times the issue of states vs. Federal control is not clear. The 10th amendment reads:

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    So where it is not clear,the power belongs to the people. And it is the people who can decide of states, the federal or some sort of shared responsibility should be used in cases where it's is not explicitly given to one government or the other. In the end this is the messiness of the political process and yes, it can lead to some terrible things like wars, suppressing voting rights, and abortion.

    I see this political landscape and process as a symptom of the greater problem in the US- we are no longer E plurribus unum (out of many one), but unfortunately we are now not one national but groups of people who categorize each other into different camps based upon politics, religion, ethnicity, etc. I'm not sure if/how we resolve it.
     
  2. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Here in Georgia conservatives hold the house, senate, and the Governor's seat. A similar religious liberty bill was set to be passed late last week, and in the dead of the night someone got to them and browbeat them into submission and they tabled the bill. The Governor wouldn't even intervene. I'm sure it's the fallout from seeing the heat Indiana is getting and the gay lobby and progressives were threatening all kinds of mayhem if they passed it. And they denied God.

    Heaven help us.
     
  3. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Its pretty cut and dry in my book :)

    If you are a baker, restaurant or store. You should sell to anyone who buys your products. Their is no sin in selling to everyone. But if a certain group asks you to participate in a SPECIAL event. And that special event goes against your religious beliefs... then one has the rights to deny their services.

    Its not that hard to understand and it has nothing to do with discrimination.

    When will common sense take precedent :(

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    So interesting. Much to pray about.

    It's true the issues are maybe not clear cut. Still that's what the Holy Spirit is out there for.

    Say I were a printer. There are bound to be many , many people who would come to me for work done. Would I print pornography of any kind?

    No I don't even have to think about it, I just would not.

    Would I print witch craft or New Age books?

    No, I don't have to think about that too long either.

    Would I print Communist Books?

    Well no I wouldn't. No, no , no.

    So obviously I could never be a printer. :D:ROFLMAO: I think you know if these matters came up maybe God would grant me the grace to see more clearly.
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Would I bake a cake for a homosexual wedding? One with a slogan endorsing this?

    No . I don't honestly think I would.
     
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  6. miker

    miker Powers

    And I think this is the root of the issue. I think most reasonable people, including those who support SSM, would agree you have the right in a business transaction to decide who and how to conduct business . Unfortunately, it's politicians and those zealots who want to force their agendas that cause these issues.

    I thought this article in of all places the NYTs was somewhat related. To me it talks about respect for individuals. And it's nice to read that it is the Christians of the world in the trenches or perhaps what Papa Francis calls the field hospitals

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/o...stof-a-little-respect-for-dr-foster.html?_r=0
     
  7. little me

    little me Archangels

    I'd be tempted to hand them an empty cake box. Get it? Here's your make believe cake for your make believe "wedding". Here's your "not really a cake" for your "not really a wedding".
     
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  8. Daniel O'Connor

    Daniel O'Connor Principalities

    All the Pagan Roman Emperors demanded of the early Christians was one small pinch of incense in worship of the false idols. The Christians we now remember and rightly exalt are the brave souls -- the martyrs of the early Church -- who refused to do even that. Let us be like them, not like the rationalizing cowards who readily gave that one pinch.
     
  9. miker

    miker Powers

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  10. Torrentum

    Torrentum Guest

    The total phase of the lunar eclipse will only last about 5 minutes, making it the shortest lunar eclipse of the century on the morning of Easter Vigil

    That's truly incredible. I've never seen a lunar eclipse so short.
    The 'coincidences' and 'rare events' associated with these blood moons continue to stack up and are truly absolutely incredible.
     
  11. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    On Holy Thursday no less. I'll say it again, if you can get a weapon then please do so and learn how to use it to defend yourself, your friends and family, and our priests and get a concealed carry. The police come to clean up the mess. On Holy Thursday they do this, evil is on the loose and the all about battle is spreading:

    "At least 70 people were killed and 79 others injured Thursday after al Qaeda-linked gunmen stormed a college campus in Kenya and targeted Christians. . . When the gunmen arrived at his dorm he could hear them opening doors and asking if the people who had hidden inside whether they were Muslims or Christians. "If you were a Christian, you were shot on the spot,"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/k...tacked-masked-gunman-breakingnews-com-n334386
     
  12. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    you want sign after sign after sign? just look at this screenshot of Drudge showing what's going on worldwide (and this doesn't include the breaking news that the EU and Iran are about to issue a joint statement on the nuke talks). To paraphrase from some of old favorite movies and TV shows . . . it's time to go the mats (and I don't mean muslim prayer mats, but time to triple down on the prayers and make final preparations):

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  13. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    O glorious prince St. Michael, chief and commander of the heavenly hosts, guardian of souls, vanquisher of rebel spirits, servant in the house of the Divine King and our admirable conductor, you who shine with excellence and superhuman virtue deliver us from all evil, who turn to you with confidence and enable us by your gracious protection to serve God more and more faithfully every day.
    Pray for us, O glorious St. Michael, Prince of the Church of Jesus Christ, that we may be made worthy of His promises
     
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  14. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Just BREAKING on FOX NEWS.....NYPD Counter Terrorism Division arrested 2 women bomb makers in NY...connected to isis
     
  15. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Has anyone else had any word or vision of them attacking churches here in the US? I had a vision as I stood at the doors of our church doing the SVdP collection a couple of weeks ago of tackling a terrorist as he entered our church clad in all black, firing a machine gun, and carrying bombs. It was a like watching a movie, but I wasn't asleep, the vision just came to me, I even looked behind me to see if someone was coming up the steps.
     
  16. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    No but ... Not in USA .... Yet!!.... EVIL IS HERE!! Just look at the the Radical Left's re-action to Ferguson, and, yesterday, the re-action to the Pizza Parlor owners in IN. We, USA, have a President, his Administration and Political Party that has done nothing of positive substance .. Domestic or International .. but has divided the Country in ways not seen in 150 years!! Faithful vs non-believers, Black vs White, Straight vs Gay, Citizen vs Illegals, Liberal vs Conservative, Old vs Young, Tax Payers vs Not, ... You Name It!!
    Thus The Storm .... ;-(

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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  17. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Waiting on Swiss news conference on Iran nukes....another bill " you have to pass it to see whats in it".... same old tape
     
  18. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    If it wasn't enough that this 3rd blood moon in the tetrad comes on the Easter Vigil, and the first day of Passover, these things are interesting:
    -Date of blood moon: 4/4
    -Duration of full eclipse: 4:44 (4 minutes, 44 seconds)
    -Numerical value for the Hebrew word for Blood (dam) = 44 (<<<<<I don't know much about this)
    -Barack Obama is the 44th president of the USA
     
  19. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

  20. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

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