I totally agree with you. The substance they call a vaccine is a mostly unknown quantity. Derived from aborted fetal tissue. Ugh
There is seriously something more wrong with this “ vaccine “ then anyone is letting on…or it’s the politics surrounding it. When nations are putting their own citizens in camps to force them into getting this, yes, I’m going to question why? When the government’s are ignoring science relating to post infection immunity and are still trying to shove this drug down our throats, you’d better question why? They say follow the science…ok, then please just follow the science. They are liars…why would you ever trust this gang that is forcing you out of your jobs because you won’t submit to getting injected with a experience drug? Especially if you have natural immunity? They refuse to even address this issue…why? Folks, this is life and death. Is it really prudent to trust this gang that has proven to have lied already with your life. Yes, Covid can kill old folks, so does the flu. Do we force the whole world to get jabbed because some people die? No, statistically, it’s older, compromised folks that are at risk…yet there shoving this on kids now? Sorry, I’m not buying this. And the obvious beneficiary is the pharma community and hospitals….and possibly, the NWO. Oh, almost forgot…why are safe therapies to keep folks out of the hospital and keep them alive being refused? This is a outrage. People have died needlessly…this is downright criminal.
I also find it very telling who in our Church is arguing for the vaccine vs. who in our Church is arguing or cautioning against it. Which ones are we more apt to trust spiritually, and what are the implications then for the spiritual underpinnings of this whole vaccine issue?
Whoa. I wish there was more information... Like how does she know what's in the vials based on the numbers 1, 2, and 3?
Why, indeed. Why are these questions not being asked? A few weeks ago when they started “vaccinating” children, on the local nightly news which I watch most nights I was amazed that not once were these questions brought up: should children be vaccinated?, what are the possible risks for children?, is it safe for them? It was only, “ok, children are now able to get the shot, so bring them in to get vaccinated.” Simple as that, along with video showing happy kids getting jabbed, interviews with “relieved” parents who were just so glad that their child was now vaccinated, and information on how you can get your own kids jabbed. I don’t recall anywhere even on a national level these most basic questions being asked, though I have to admit, I listen to very little MSM. It’s even more important to know beyond a shadow of a doubt the answers to these questions regarding them. They are children, for goodness sake! They have their entire lives ahead of them. Could we be injecting them with a substance that could in a few years or after a longer period of time, impair or destroy their immune systems, or cause them to get cancer or auto-immune disorders? Yes, we could be. These effects would be life-changing and potentially life-ending. “We’re not sure” is not an answer. And for what? To give them a substance that we now know is of limited effectiveness and causes a plethora of adverse reactions that develop in the short-term, when they are basically immune to the disease anyway? That’s insanity. And medical malpractice imo. So there’s a low but not insignificant risk of serious adverse reactions in the short-term, an unknown risk of long-term adverse reactions, and basically no benefit. It makes one ask “why?” and be suspicious that something nefarious is going on. And parents keep bringing them in. Maybe we shouldn’t blame them. They’ve been conditioned to believe the vaccines are “safe and effective” by the repetition of the phrase like a mantra and the hiding of all evidence to the contrary. You have to search to get this information. So most just aren’t aware. As far as if their children actually need the vaccine the logic must go, “Well, it’s being offered, therefore my kids must need it, so as a responsible parent I need to bring them in.” As far as if it’s safe, they must think, “Since it’s available, it must be safe”, unaware of the serious short-term effects and not considering there may also be long-term detrimental effects, possibly even lethal ones. And then add to that the fear that was engendered in people through the media and fake case numbers plus the memories of the (ineffective) draconian measures of 2020. I did a little research and found out it took 15 years between the time the polio vaccine was discovered and when they began large-scale inoculations. 15 years! By that time, after all the research and trials done, they ‘knew’ that it was safe to give to people and effective against the polio virus.
Yes of course on an individual level you can call it a health crisis. I was referring to the fact most healthy people get over it. Don’t think he called it a mild flu and I didn't either. In fact I know how sick one can get as a relative had it but recovered despite multiple health problems. I think he rules it out for all kids, as messing with their immune system will not improve their long term prospects. He does advise to shed some pounds and have healthier lifestyle. He is an expert in his field and not the only one well qualified to give his opinion on vaccines and the consensus among those challenging the narrative is that its neither safe or effective. So why compromise a child's health? It's heartbreaking to hear about these injuries, but especially the children. Hard to apply logic to what is happening right now. We are heading into a health crisis, that's for sure in this country. God help us
Why aren’t we dealing with covid as far as children and young people go, just like we deal with measles, for example? Encourage infection by having them come in close proximity, causing their immune systems to make antibodies to the virus, which would give them long-term immunity to the virus and even its variants, assuming that the variant isn’t mutated enough not to be recognized be their antibodies. Or simply let them alone and let nature take its course. If you’re not sick, you don’t need medicine.
That's only one small study. The percentages weren't stated in the report. Dr. Mobeen explains in the video that an epidemiologist contacted him, warning him that the data would be used to give the erroneous impression that immunity acquired from infection was ineffective against the new variant. The epidemiologist explained how similar data is used to determine vaccine immunity and Dr. Mobeen used that method to extrapolate the percentage effectiveness of acquired immunity. He explains it clearly in the video. The authors of the report expressed a wish for a similar study to determine vaccine immunity against the variant.
No, I'd rather have an answer. I am glad you don't mind as my question is not offensive. I have the impression you began by posting Catholic views, and now it is more about vaccines. Is my impression wrong? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you indeed. Perhaps you have good intentions. God knows. Personally, I will give you the benefit of doubt. I am not to judge anyway, in particular not on this forum. But you can't be too careful these days, everything is turning into warfare. Whereas we have not declared war on anyone, they have declared war on us. This includes cyberwarfare, etc. I will leave it at that. I am glad you took no offence, no offence intended. God bless.
Yes. There's no doubt that the vaccines can harm children and reports of that are emerging. I'm not suggesting that lots of children be vaccinated. In fact, I'm not proposing that any children be vaccinated. What's abhorrent to me is not something I would wish on any child. I'm merely questioning the wisdom of making blanket statements which can be challenged by vaccine fanatics and used to reinforce stereotyping.
Yes. You would be wrong. I began by posting about Ivermectin, but I'm happy to leave if it would make you feel better.
I really don't understand this reaction to a simple note of caution in a post. I'm acquainted with people who have been injured by the vaccine. I have one relative who I believe has suffered mild strokes since being vaccinated but I seem to be the only person linking the strokes with the vaccine.
Unfortunately, some people do call it a mild 'flu. I apologise if I gave the impression that someone in this conversation did so. There's no doubt that the pandemic is being used by very powerful people for nefarious purposes. What bothers me most is the way authorities ignore reports about the effectiveness of enhancing our immune systems, especially with Vitamin D3. Dail Eireann received such a report last March but all the focus is on vaccines. If reports on Vitamin D3 are saying that it significantly reduces the severity of symptoms and mortality, then that must put it on a par with the effectiveness of the vaccines for most people. I have a couple of young relatives with very serious co-morbidities. As far as I know, one has been vaccinated although I did try to urge her parents to wait. So far, there don't seem to be any negative effects but it will be years before that can be known for certain. The other is too young. In all honesty, much as I abhor the abortion tainted vaccines, I couldn't blame parents of such children if they chose to have their children vaccinated. I surely wouldn't want to be in their position,
I think until we are in the shoes of those parents--who knows what ravages from covid they have seen--we cannot know their reasons. And should not judge.
I think we can judge the criteria and info out there but not individuals who make their decisions to take or not to take the jab. And that is essentially what we are doing on this forum. We are going to be judged by God. I can’t bear the thought of appearing before Him with aborted fetal tissue on my conscience. Or having said it was okay for someone else to take it. As Beth mentioned, ivermectin is effective and safe and it’s not being used.
Never in history has anything that's been imposed on populations been good. The more I see, the more I think there is something deeply sinister going on.
