Father Michel Rodrigue Facebook Post about the Warning.

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  1. Ed Kleese

    Ed Kleese Servant

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    Hi Tom,

    Sacred Scripture is the divinely inspired Word of God and forms one leg of our Catholic Faith. Tradition and the Magisterium form the other two legs. Sacred Scripture also contains all the Truth necessary for salvation. If there is a conflict between any of the above listed legs that the Church is comprised of, then there is a misunderstanding in the interpretation of one of the areas that is in conflict.

    One way that conflict can come about is in the reading and interpretation of Sacred Scripture. While it is good for all of us to read and contemplate the Word of God, we must filter that Word through His Church's Tradition and the teachings of His Magisterium so that we do not improperly interpret what we read. Biblical scholars look at the time the words were written, to whom they were written to, for what purpose they were written, who redacted them over the years and even who those redacters studied under to see how they might have been influenced. That said, if there is any book in our Canon that you have to be careful reading, it's the Apocalypse. It is highly symbolic due to the persecution of Christians going on at the time. It also weaves back and forth through time and encompasses all of time from Creation to the Judgement and new Heaven's and Earth. It also can not be read linearly because it was not meant to be. Apocalyptic writing is not linear but encompasses many levels at once. Much like St. John's Gospel, it is like a multi level symphony. If you read this linearly it's like losing the dimensionality and beauty of it. Please don't do that. Do not take my word for this. Pick up some good Catholic commentaries on Revelation like Sacra Pagina and really delve into the beauty. You will not regret doing this. For now, you can read the Introduction before the Book and the foot notes at the bottom of your Catholic Bible. If it is a Study Bible, Check out the front section that talked about the Apocalypse. A good Catholic Study Bible is invaluable. I do not mean to be preaching to you Brother, I just want for you the best that you can get from God's Word. It's not a linear timeline, It's God eternally present from beginning to end and offering us His Love at all moments of Creation.

    Peace Tom,
    Ed
     
  2. Tom Jelinek

    Tom Jelinek New Member

    Thank you Ed, I understand all that. But where I had issues was with an unapproved private revelation, that turns out even the bishop did not know about, also referring to the book of Revelation, at specific points that are fairly unambiguous. And the private revelation was nonetheless plainly at odds with the Bible. If you review my older posts in this thread, that should be clear, including the passages I was referring to. If you rightly caution about the Apocalypse, how much more should you caution about unapproved private revelations? That's what we're facing.
    Peace, Ed.
     
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  3. Ed Kleese

    Ed Kleese Servant

    Tom,

    If there was anything that went against Sacred Scripture, do you think Bishop Lemay would allow Fr. Michel to continue with his prophetic words? Has the Bishop ordered the faithful not to read those words? You are seeing a conflict because you are reading Revelation like an exact timeline, and this is not the way to see the fullness of the Book of the Apocalyse. Please do not disparage a Holy Priest, a chosen son of God, when even his own Bishop has not said what you are saying. If the Bishop shuts him down, then all should obey, but until then, please stop with your own interpretation and opinions of this Priest in Good Standing.

    Peace, Ed
     
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  4. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Ed, how likely is it that a priest who gets messages from God lies about disclosing those messages to his bishop.

    Asking for a friend ;)
     
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  5. Byron

    Byron Powers

    He never did that. Stop. Please go back and read the website.
     
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  6. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Yes he did, it’s in black and white.
     
  7. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    You should know this... after all you posted this previously in a different thread. According to the bishop, he never was submitted any of Fr. Michel’s messages as he claimed.

    That’s a pretty good sign that he is not who he claims to be.

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  8. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Again, read the website. Fr Michel never said he submitted anything to Bishop LeMay.
     
  9. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Frodo, Ed Kleese above says it best. Leave this good standing priest alone and stop calling him a liar. ​
     
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  10. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    So your stance is the bishop is lying... It’s one or the other here. Which one is it?
     
  11. Tom Jelinek

    Tom Jelinek New Member

    I think we all understand that the world can't continue on its present course, or the elect would fall. To maintain hope, we need some assurance that God's got this - we just need to do our part. Seeing the salvific plan that ends in glory can do that. That need is why I looked into Fr. Michel in the first place; if he was an obvious fraud or fool, I would have dismissed him out of hand. But before letting his ideas shape my faith, I needed more, and as a result of my inquiries, I came across this site. That was before I became aware of Fr. Michel's issues with his bishop. I've apparently ruffled some feathers here, with my skepticism of him.

    Sure, the Antichrist could be alive today. I expect he is. But if he's supposed to make his entry like Jesus, at age 30, that's too young to be in the hierarchy, further stressing Fr. Michel's case. My attitude about guessing who it might be is simple - if you have to guess, you're wrong. He'll make an entrance so grand that without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you'll be tempted to think he's Jesus himself. Up until now, I've thought his imminent arrival highly improbable, because he needs to step into a world in severe turmoil, and quickly restore order, to gain the worship he craves. In the period now ending, which I [controversially] believe may have been the period of peace, that person was not needed. Global-scale wars were a no-show, and everyone was too busy getting rich to pay attention to some guru. Now, given the extreme global reaction to coronavirus, we're certainly going to see some serious trouble in the next year or two. It could get out of hand in a hurry, and honestly seems designed to do so. As the scenario evolves, faith, fed by prayer (Rosary first, Divine Mercy Chaplet second, and for me, the Auxilium Christianorum), and confidence that God has a plan, without stressing about when and if a Warning is to come, should carry us through.

    Peace,
    Tom
     
  12. Ed Kleese

    Ed Kleese Servant

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    Frodo,

    I can see that you are a very faithful Catholic and a good investigator too. That is very good. You realize that there are a lot of moving parts here and Bishop Lemay is in the middle of it. Look beyond his words to his actions. I hope to have more information for you tomorrow but I wanted one of our Brothers to look at it first to give me his opinion. Keep an open mind. Things are in God's hands.

    Peace, Ed
     
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  13. Tom Jelinek

    Tom Jelinek New Member

    Ed, look at the letter just posted - the bishop did not allow it, and has now put a stop to it. My comments were never aimed at Fr. Michel's integrity or holiness. Only the content of his locutions. Had you read what I wrote, you should know that.
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    • Byron said:
      Garabandal, where did you get this information?

      ...copied and pasted below from: Countdown to Kingdom website...

      Statement on Fr. Michel Rodrigue


      On April 23rd, 2020, Fr. Michel Rodrigue informed us that his bishop, Rev. Gilles Lemay, does not support Fr. Michel’s messages; he stated to Fr. Michel, in writing, that he does not support the idea of “the Warning, the chastisements, the third World War, the Era of Peace, any construction of refuges, et cetera.” Fr. Michel, wishing to remain obedient, has asked Countdown to the Kingdom to remove any mention on this website of his bishop’s support of his messages, which we have done.

      Also, no previous statements posted on this website were intended to imply that Fr. Michel’s messages had his Bishop’s explicit approval; only that Fr. Michel himself, as a priest in good standing, enjoyed the support of his Bishop. Fr. Michel’s statement that he “tells everything” to the Bishop does not, therefore, mean that the Bishop endorses any or all of Fr. Michel’s messages.

      (If you have not read our Disclaimer on this website, which explains the important processes of Catholic discernment of private revelation, you can read it on our Homepage beside “Why this website?”)

      Catherine L, Yesterday at 6:53 PM Report
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    • Byron, I copied and pasted this from p 26 of the Countdown thread. I omitted parts of the quote which were not pertinent to the discussion of the fact that Fr. Michel stated that he told everything to his Bishop. emphasis mine
    • Read the last sentence of the post by Catherine L which says, " Fr. Michel's statement that he 'tells everything' to the Bishop does not, therefore, mean that the Bishop endorses any or all of Fr. Michel's messages."
    • You posted a "like" on this.
    • This statement was from the Countdown to the Kingdom website. You can find it there.
     
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  15. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Thanks Ed, I do absolutely agree we need to look at actions. I just think that stating that you submit messages to a bishop and then the bishop saying it doesn’t happen is an action.

    I look forward to the new information you will provide tomorrow.
     
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  16. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Thank you Heavenly, and the quote from the website can hopefully put Frodo at peace.

    “Also, no previous statements posted on this website were intended to imply that Fr. Michel’s messages had his Bishop’s explicit approval; only that Fr. Michel himself, as a priest in good standing, enjoyed the support of his Bishop. Fr. Michel’s statement that he “tells everything” to the Bishop does not, therefore, mean that the Bishop endorses any or all of Fr. Michel’s messages.”
     
  17. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Tom,
    I sometimes wonder if the period of peace has come also but I don't think so.

    I think that there needs to be a very apparent period of peace, so apparent that many Jews will convert. This is in our catechism and scripture says that, "they shall beat their swords into plowshares".

    Imho the Jews will not accept anyone as their Messiah until a very apparent period of peace has occurred. I believe that the Fathers of the Church thought that this period of peace would be after the Second Coming during the last 45 days but Jesus tells us in scripture that they did not accept him but they will accept the AC and I belive that this can only occur when there has been a very apparent period of peace:

    John 5:43 (DRA)
    43 I am come in the name of my Father, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.​

    In addition, I believe in the prophecies of St. Hildegard who is a doctor of the Church and she appears to be speaking of a period of peace before the Second Coming and before the time of the Final Antichrist when many of the Jews will convert. These are, of course, just my thoughts.

    Peace to you also.+
     
  18. Byron

    Byron Powers

    I love this priest.
     
  19. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I came across this video on another thread on this Forum. It was lovely to listen to, and I pray it does not lead to another war of words as to whiter this Priest should or should not say what he said. Sigh.
     
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  20. You mean this:

    Fr. Michel to the audience: "I told my bishop all of my prophecies, including the 7 nuclear missiles that will hit the US. You can write that down."

    Bishop: "You what?"
     
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