Speculation on who will be Pope and why...

Mary Ann,
Thanks for sharing this about Mirjana, I find this to be important and special ...

 

Mary Ann....I remember that and thank you for reminding me....I always thought it might be the warning....

 

Another March 18th, another birthday for Mirjana marking each year of Our Lady’s apparitions in Medjugorje, as well as the passage of time towards the fulfillment of Our Lady’s plans through the coming of the secrets. Pilgrims in Medjugorje often have the same reaction, after Our Lady leaves, as the apostles and disciples did looking up in the sky at Jesus’ departure in his ascension into heaven.

When I was In Medugorje I had the pleasure of seeing Mirjana having a vision and also heard her talk at her house.

I suppose it is besides the point but I thought her beautiful looking and very patient. Praying for her. But I notice how holier they are all getting with every passing year.

 

MS7,

I think your love for the MMP and Fr. Gobbi's locutions has swayed you a bit. But I've looked up Cardinal Dias' credentials; his humility is striking and I believe with you that he'd make a splendid pope. It would just be like the Holy Spirit to choose someone off the radar. Has he been included in the probable lists?


Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!

 

It was the Marian Movement of Priests that brought me back into the Church full force Mario. Even when the little booklets were being sent out and a book had not yet come out. About 1982. I have met Fr. Gobbi 3 times and the book transformed my life. I gave my life to supporting and defending and suffering for the priesthood. So be it! Yes! Cardinal Dias is in the running!!

 

John Paul II was the first non-italian pope since the 15th century, coming from Poland. Then we got another non-italian pope Benedict XVI, coming from Germany. It's just a guess, but I think that the next pope will come from outside of Europe this time, being that the Church is universal and Catholicism is spread worldwide, I think the time is approaching were a pope will be from outside of Europe, again it is just my guess.

 

MS7 has mentioned a Cardinal Dias of India. I checked him out and agree he would be a marvelous choice.

Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!

 

Hi Mario, I think Cardinal Dias is 76 years old, so that is a good age for a pope. I read somewhere that the cardinals do not like to name someone that is too young, something about not wanting someone to serve as pope too many years. I would be surprised if the new pope is in his sixties. I have recently read where Benedict was disappointed with the internal power struggles at the Vatican, so I would hope that the new pope will clear some of that up, even though the power struggles probably have been going on for centuries. I also read that around 50% of the cardinals who vote are from Europe, so that would indicate that a European would be chosen as pope. But I still have to go with my original gut-feeling; the next pope will be from outside of Europe. I can still remember back when John Paul II was named, the shock, surprise and elation that everyone felt, being that John Paul II was from Poland. The same will happen if someone is named from outside of Europe altogether.

A list of the ages of cardinals, most are in their seventies & eighties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_cardinals

 

Cardinal Dias is also from an area of India where there was a major Eucharistic miracle in 2002 (? I think... it was early in this century anyway.) Who better as pope than someone who witnessed an approved Eucharistic miracle?

I don't know if he was there, but he could have been. See www.threalpresence.org

 

Hello everyone its Norman ,ive been trying to post for weeks but been unable to get through ,in regards the popes resignation ,we all need to pray very hard indeed about pope benedict xv1 successer to the thrown of peter , i feel in my heart that the next pope is linked to a message given to fr gobbie concerning the year 1998, and of which I was given a vision of ,then recognised him on television nearly one month later ,at the easter blessing in 1998 , it seems also that the new pope would be in place for this years easter blessing , co incidence only time will tell ,but something is being put into place ,and I get the feeling that heaven isnt pleased , not in regards pope Benedict i must add, things are difficult for him healthwise , and with regards to his age , but their are plotters putting added pressures on him , we need to pray very very hard for our current pope ,whose doing a great job , but I feel the dove being attacked by a seagull , lightening striking st peters basillica twice after only hours after the popes announcement , a small earthquake taking place just outside Rome only a couple or so days ago , a meteor coming down in Russia ,and also in the last few days fire balls seen in the sky over California , florida , and Cuba , things are building up to far bigger chastisements coming , the consecration in regards russia hasn't been done , the consecrations done in years 1982 and then again in 1984 never mentioned Russia by name , and also the final dogma in regards our lady being co redemtrix ,mediatrix and advocate hasnt been done as yet , all of the events. Recently I feel are all linked together ,and are warnings for the whole world , id like to end this by thanking our dear beloved pope Benedict ,for doing such fantastic work for us all ,but id like to make a plee to him ,please holy father dont flee Rome ,just like you asked us to pray for you,that this doesnt happen ,

 

Goodness Norm you are nearly the only one on the forum to agree with me on this. The resignation was a catastrophe.

 

...I am with you... All coverage on secular news and catholic radio is benign, upbeat, and surely absent of any context with marian apparitions and prophecies of the many saints of the past 150 years that have warned us. Oblivious to the current immersion in prophetic fulfillment we seem to find ourselves and our church in right now. They keep chattering on about "how courageous" this action is, and how "he is teaching the church" through this recognition of his inability to continue and showing us a new way "in stark contrast to what we in the church witnessed with JPII, and his ailing health...", and I can't really listen to it.

I don't even feel the desire to anticipate the next pope with all of this hopefulness, because I feel that between now and that date more immediate divine interventions may need to take place. I am encouraged, though, that every day at mass at our parish, our current Holy Father, and our church are being lifted up in our petitions with specific new prayers since he announced this.

 

Padraig, Norman, Jon, I am with you as well. I feel certain that Benedict XVI is doing this because he has lost or is losing a battle with forces in the Vatican that need to be removed, but he doesn't have the strength to do it himself. The oddest thing was that the Vatican museums were allowed to accept bank cards and credit cards again, almost immediately after his resignation. Some one with money pushed hard for him to resign. Pray for him. I do believe he is counting on his prayers being more powerful than any human action he could take. We should support him in that, especially in this year of faith!

 

We can never know what reason he has for his actions. They may well be divinely inspired. But everything happens for a reason and this is God's will. I'm firmly convinced God's hand is on everything happening right now (good and bad). As with the election in the US I knew it was the destiny of our country even though it appeared bad. These things HAVE to happen. It's all part of God's plan. Cause in the end God is victorious! Unfortunately worse things must happen first before this victory.

God Bless!

 

I don't want to disagree with you all and I felt much the same way initially. I always felt that JPII showed us that a person can no more stop being the Pope than I can stop being Daniel. I was stunned when Benedict XVI stepped down. The only thing I can think of is that when JPII was ailing, Cardinal Ratzinger saw firsthand how the wolves inside the Vatican were running amok with no one to stop them from the Chair of Peter and he did not want a repeat of this as his health deteriorated. Now that I reflected on that possibility, that would make Benedict XVI's faith look weak in the Year of Faith. I suppose I know too little of what the pope is really facing to make a fair judgement and that God's grace is sufficient.

 

I know I'm suppose to be off the loop 'meditating' without the internet, but I got on this morning for a few minutes. Do any of you remember this:


[QUOTEAccording to the anonymous writer, "Cardinal Romeo could never have imagined that his indiscreet remarks would be communicated back to the Vatican by third parties."





By Nick Pisa
Last updated at 7:48 PM on 10th February 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...plot-year-claims-senior-Vatican-cardinal.html
A senior Vatican cardinal has sensationally claimed Pope Benedict XVI could be ‘the victim of an assassination plot’ within the next 12 months, it emerged today.
Cardinal Paolo Romeo is said to have revealed the details while on a visit to China and that another cardinal who was told of the comments, then submitted a top secret report to the Vatican Secretary of State.. "

This happened AFTER I saw the article on Bertone' saying that there had been a new decree put out that NO CURIA (PRIESTS, CARDINALS, BISHOPS ETC.) could get to the Pope EXCEPT THROUGH BERTONE'. THIS WAS VERY , VERY SERIOUS.

And of course we have this:
CLUBBED, POISONED, STRANGLED: HOW POPES HAVE MET THEIR DEATHS
Over the years, many popes have met a grisly demise – by strangulation, poisoning, crucifixion, and even by being clubbed to death. Much of the bloodshed occurred during the Middle Ages. But as the death of John Paul I in 1978 shows – if conspiracy theories are to be believed – with great responsibility comes great danger…
St Peter (AD 64): Crucified.
John VIII (872-882): Allegedly poisoned and then clubbed to death.
Adrian III (884-885): Allegedly poisoned.
Stephen VI (896-897): Said to have been strangled.
Leo V (903): Murdered.
John X (914-928): Allegedly suffocated under a pillow.
Stephen VII (928-931): Possibly murdered.
Stephen VIII (939-942): Mutilated and died from injuries.
John XII (955-964): Murdered by cuckolded husband.
Pope John VIII (872-882) is said to have poisoned and then clubbed to death; right, Stephen VI (896-897) is alleged to have been strangled
Benedict VI (973-974): Strangled by a priest.
John XIV (983-984): Starved to death or poisoned.
Gregory V (996-999): Said to have been poisoned but probably malaria.
Sergius IV (1009-1012): Possibly murdered.
Clement II (1046-1047): Rumored poisoned.
Damasus II (1048): Rumored murdered.
Boniface VIII (1294-1303): Died from abuse received while a captive of the French in Anagni.
Benedict XI (1304-1305): Allegedly poisoned.
John Paul I (1978): Allegedly poisoned.
In 1978, Pope John Paul I (left) died after just 33 days in office and there have long been suggestions that he was poisoned by the Mafia

Pope Benedict XVI is truly in exile now. 'hidden from the world' on the Vatican compound. Even his brother is disappointed he cannot go back to Bavaria. We still need to powerfully pray for him!
All I care about right now is that Cardinal Bertone' does NOT GET IN. I am going to call Father Geremia who is head of the MMP for North America and talk to him about Cardinal Dias. I want to know more about him. I'll let you know.
God is truly in control. I know that. We REALLY have to pray that the freemasons don't get Peter's seat!

 

And also was it St Benedict that was attempted to be poisoned as well by those unruly monks but he always blessed his food and drink.
Oh my, I agree, I need to get off the net and pray before my feet hit the ground and as many rosaries as I can get in and trust in God.
This news you just shared is very alarming indeed.

Pray the novena for the Pope if you wish, with John -Paul Deddens novenas..I promise it is not spam, been engaging in novenas with this sweet Catholic for months! Joh-Paul also marched in DC for pro -life recently and is starting this novena for POpe Benedict tomorrow, Wednesday 2/20/13

http://www.praymorenovenas.com/novena-for-the-pope-benedict-xvi/

there will be more novenas after this as well..he has, I think 41,000 signed up right now for the novena for the Pope
God Bless Johh-Paul Deddens and us all

 

Wow Marti you never cease to amaze where you dig this stuff up. I had a lovely dream about the Pope there he was with a nun in Rome.I have always considered him to be a saint.

I am not blaming the Pope, only God will judge. I am sure he couldn't help it...

Did you know one time the Chure of Ars tried to flee Ars , right in the middle of his ministry when huge numbers were coming? He actually fled the village, he wanted to become a monk and give his life over to prayer. But God stopped him just outside the village and sent him back...

 

The above post is well written , pope Benedict must be in our prayers constantly , they the masons are behind a lot of things being planned out , theyve tried to confuse and cause disent over the years ,in regards to placing an upside down cross on the thrown of peter , see you tube videos of pope john paul 11 visit ti Israel years ago ,during an advanced stage of his illness , is it also true , that the upside down cross is etched on certain Windows in the Vatican , see it on you tube videos again , pope benedict xv1 we are fully behind you , you are not alone ,our prayers ,are holding you up ,you are in our thoughts , did you all know that on march 20th 2013 ,president obama is going to Israel ,to give peace talks on palestine ,7 year peace plan , read your bibles ,thesalonians 2 verse 5 ,when you hear them talking of peace and safety , march 20th by the way ,is 5 days before passover ,our lord ,made is triumph entry into jerusalem on that date (nisan 10 ) now president Obama is going their to jerusalem on that same date , are things interlinked , with what we are now experiencing in the church ,with the election ? Of a new pope , one thing is certain on all this ,heaven isn't happy ,were does this leave medjugorje? The commision have done their work , the report given to the cdf ,any final decision to be made ,will be by the pope , as pope Benedict is familiar with the investigation ,it should be he ,and he alone who decides on medjugorje , if this was placed with someone else ,its possible any favourable decision could be then altered or misjudged , is it possible , this could be the warning in regards the first secret of medjugorje , thats the feeling within me ,also I know what the third secret is in regards the permanant sign and the month that it will appear their , like our lady says at medjugorje in her messages ,pray pray pray for your shepherds , prayers are what are needed now , in my posts on this forum , in the past ,I've asked for prayers in regards pope Benedict and in regards to what he was up against , now is the approaching time ,for events to take place ,whatch them unfold before your very eyes , one after another , medjugorje is true ,god bless medjugorje ,garabandal is true ,god bless garabandal ,fatima is true ,god bless fatima , all these are linked together in our ladys plan ,to save the world, mir mir mir to the world , may our ladys most holy army of angels ,be near you all ,and remain with you all , the battle is just beginning. ,be on your guard and be prepared .


[QUOTEAccording to the anonymous writer, "Cardinal Romeo could never have imagined that his indiscreet remarks would be communicated back to the Vatican by third parties."





By Nick Pisa
Last updated at 7:48 PM on 10th February 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...plot-year-claims-senior-Vatican-cardinal.html
A senior Vatican cardinal has sensationally claimed Pope Benedict XVI could be ‘the victim of an assassination plot’ within the next 12 months, it emerged today.
Cardinal Paolo Romeo is said to have revealed the details while on a visit to China and that another cardinal who was told of the comments, then submitted a top secret report to the Vatican Secretary of State.. "

This happened AFTER I saw the article on Bertone' saying that there had been a new decree put out that NO CURIA (PRIESTS, CARDINALS, BISHOPS ETC.) could get to the Pope EXCEPT THROUGH BERTONE'. THIS WAS VERY , VERY SERIOUS.

And of course we have this:
CLUBBED, POISONED, STRANGLED: HOW POPES HAVE MET THEIR DEATHS
Over the years, many popes have met a grisly demise – by strangulation, poisoning, crucifixion, and even by being clubbed to death. Much of the bloodshed occurred during the Middle Ages. But as the death of John Paul I in 1978 shows – if conspiracy theories are to be believed – with great responsibility comes great danger…
St Peter (AD 64): Crucified.
John VIII (872-882): Allegedly poisoned and then clubbed to death.
Adrian III (884-885): Allegedly poisoned.
Stephen VI (896-897): Said to have been strangled.
Leo V (903): Murdered.
John X (914-928): Allegedly suffocated under a pillow.
Stephen VII (928-931): Possibly murdered.
Stephen VIII (939-942): Mutilated and died from injuries.
John XII (955-964): Murdered by cuckolded husband.
Pope John VIII (872-882) is said to have poisoned and then clubbed to death; right, Stephen VI (896-897) is alleged to have been strangled
Benedict VI (973-974): Strangled by a priest.
John XIV (983-984): Starved to death or poisoned.
Gregory V (996-999): Said to have been poisoned but probably malaria.
Sergius IV (1009-1012): Possibly murdered.
Clement II (1046-1047): Rumored poisoned.
Damasus II (1048): Rumored murdered.
Boniface VIII (1294-1303): Died from abuse received while a captive of the French in Anagni.
Benedict XI (1304-1305): Allegedly poisoned.
John Paul I (1978): Allegedly poisoned.
In 1978, Pope John Paul I (left) died after just 33 days in office and there have long been suggestions that he was poisoned by the Mafia

Pope Benedict XVI is truly in exile now. 'hidden from the world' on the Vatican compound. Even his brother is disappointed he cannot go back to Bavaria. We still need to powerfully pray for him!
All I care about right now is that Cardinal Bertone' does NOT GET IN. I am going to call Father Geremia who is head of the MMP for North America and talk to him about Cardinal Dias. I want to know more about him. I'll let you know.
God is truly in control. I know that. We REALLY have to pray that the freemasons don't get Peter's seat! [/quote]

 

I personally don't think we should compare JPII's exit to Pope Benedicts exit. I think they both taught us something very important. Pope John Paul taught us perseverance and Pope Benedict taught us humility. Both great lessons.