The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Yep.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    August to October, 1820
    “I see more martyrs, not now but in the future…I saw the secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church. Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea… All over the world, good and devout people especially the clergy were harassed oppressed and put into prison. I had the feeling that they would become martyrs one day.”

    “When the Church had been for the most part destroyed [by the secret sect Freemasons], and when only the sanctuary and altar were still standing, I saw the wreckers enter the Church with the Beast. There they met a Woman of noble carriage who seemed to be with child because she walked slowly. At this sight, the enemies were terrorized, and the Beast could not take but another step forward. It projected its neck towards the Woman as if to devour her, but the Woman turned about and bowed down [towards the altar], her head touching the ground. Thereupon, I saw the Beast taking to flight towards the sea again, and the enemies were fleeing in the greatest confusion…. Then, I saw in the great distance great legion approaching. In the foreground I saw a man on a white horse. Prisoners were set free and joined them. All enemies were pursued. Then, I saw that the Church was being promptly rebuilt, and she was more magnificent than ever before….” [After the Warning with billions of converts]
     
  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    On the anti-Church:
    Michael Voris spoke about this last May, https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-the-tail-of-the-devil ,
    Fr. C. John McCloskey III wrote about it in June of 2014, https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2014/06/01/the-final-confrontation/, and

    I just found the following article from last March which I think is really good, https://catholicstrength.com/tag/we...ation-between-the-church-and-the-anti-church/ written by Thomas L. Mulcahy. I am not very familiar with this writer by imho he does a wonderful job of tying the general outline for the end times agreed on by Y. Dupont and D. Birch with the prophecies of Fatima; the statements of Pope Saint John Paul II, Saint Maximilian Kolbe and Saint Louis de Montfort; and what is occurring in the Church currently. It is excellent imho, a must read!


    There are a few things in Father Wolfe's video that I don't agree with but he does begin by stating that there are so many interpretations to the Book of Revelation. I don't believe that this is the great apostasy which leads immediately to the 3.5yr. reign of the Antichrist. I think that is what he is stating in the part 9 video of Our Lady of Revelation. The period we are in now is what most people refer to as the minor apostasy, although it feels "major" right now. The first two links that I posted above don't discuss the overall picture of the end times but the last one does. From Mr. Mulcahy's article,

    4. In his book, Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement Yves Dupont offers the following conclusion:

    “I regard it as certain that there will be two different stages. The first stage will only be the beginning of sorrows [see Matt. 24:8], and it will be shortened for the sake of the elect, and the Gospel will then be preached throughout the world. This will be the period of peace under the Great Monarch, the period of conversion and general prosperity which we and our children may enjoy – in short, the period of peace promised by Our Lady of Fatima” (p.91).
    and he ends with some very good advice,

    14. “In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph.” Pray the Rosary every day as Mary entreated us at Fatima. Pray for the Church.

    In addition, I think that when Father Wolfe states to pray for Cardinal Burke that is because he is standing up to the anti-Church not because Father Wolfe or Cardinal Burke are encouraging a schism.

    PS- The following link may also be helpful to understand sede-vacantism and schism http://catholicism.org/sedevacantism-and-schism.html .
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea…

    The Lamb with the Two Horns.

     
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    padraig Powers

  6. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Only the Jesuits could have pulled off this coup. And only the Jesuits would be arrogant enough to believe they could fool all the people all of the time.
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Sigh.

    They are just across the road from me me. I know a load of them are saints, even now.

    But you know , Dolours I am seeking big, big pay back for what they have done now.

    Totally enraged against them. Wipe out.


    There will be no more Jesuits

    There will be no more Jesuits

    There will be no more Jesuits

    PAY BACK BIG TIME

    NO MORE JESUITS
     
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  8. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I pray that there are 1000's more Jesuits like Father John Hardon to rise from the ashes of these times. He was scorned and hated in his time by most in his order, but he persevered to the end and remained stead fast orthodox.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    one of many such Jesuit saints..

    But the thorns have buried the corn. Time to stamp on the viper. I am furious at them. Furious.
     
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  10. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    But this is exactly in accord with the plans outlined in the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita.

    An Outline

    The Strategy outlined in the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita is astonishing in its audacity and cunning. From the start, the documents tells of a process that will take decades to accomplish. Those who drew up the document knew that they would not see its fulfillment. They were inaugurating a work that would be carried on by succeeding generation of the initiated members. The Permanent Instruction says " In our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on."

    The instruction called for the dissemination of liberal ideas and axioms throughout society and within the institutions of the Catholic Church so that laity, seminarians, clerics and prelates would, over the years, gradually be imbued with progressive principals.

    In time, this mind-set would be so pervasive that priests would be ordained, bishops would be consecrated and cardinals would be nominated whose thinking was in step with the modern thought rooted in the French Revolution's declaration of the "Rights of Man" and other principal of 789 (equality of Religions, separation of Church and State, Religious pluralism etc.)

    Eventually, a Pope would be elected from these ranks who would lead the Church on the path of "enlightenment" and "renewal". They stated that it was not their aim to place a Freemason on the Chair of Peter. Their goal was to effect an environment that would eventually produce a Pope and a hierarchy won over to the ideas of liberal Catholicism, all the while believing themselves to be faithful Catholics.

    These Catholic leaders, then, would no longer oppose the modern ideas of the Revolution (as had been consistent practice of the Popes from 1789 until 1958 - the death of Pope Pius XII - who condemned these liberal principals) but would amalgamate them into the church. The end result would be a Catholic Clergy and laity marching under the banner of the Enlightenment, all the while thinking they are marching under the banner of the Apostolic keys.

    Is it Possible

    For those who believe this scheme to be too far-fetched - a goal too hopeless for the enemy to attain, it should be noted that both Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII asked that the Permanent Instruction be published, no doubt in order to prevent such a tragedy from taking place.

    However, if such a dark state of affairs would ever come to pass, there would obviously be three unmistakable means of recognising it:

    1. it would produce an upheaval of such a magnitude that the entire world would realize that there had been a major revolution inside the Catholic Church in line with modern ideas. It would be clear to all that an "updating" had taken place.

    2. A new theology would be introduced that would be in contradiction to previous teachings.

    3. The Freemasons themselves would voice their cock-a-doodle of triumph, believing that the Catholic Church had finally "seen the light" on such points as equality of religions, the secular state, pluralism and whatever other compromise had been achieved.

    The Authenticity of the Alta Vendita documents

    The secret papers of the Alta Vendita that fell into the hands of Pope Gregory XVI embraced a period that goes from 1820 to 1846. They were published at the request of Pope Pius IX by Cretineau-Joly in his work The Roman Church and Revolution.

    With the brief of approbation of February 25, 1861, which he addressed to the author, Pope Pius IX guaranteed the authenticity of these documents, but he did not allow anyone to divulge the true members of the Alta Vendita implicated in his correspondence.

    The full text of the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita is also contained in Msgr. George E. Dillon's book, Grand Orient Freemasonry Unmasked. When Pope Leo XIII was presented with a copy of Msgr. Dillon's book, he was so impressed that he ordered an Italian version to be completed and published at his own expense.

    In the Encyclical Humanum Genus (1884), Leo XII called upon Catholic leaders to "tear off the mask from Freemasonry and make plain to all what it really is." The publication of these documents is a means of "tearing off the mask." And if the Popes asked that these letters be published, it is because they wanted all Catholics to know that all secret societies' plans to subvert the Church from within - so that Catholics would be on their guard and, hopefully, prevent such a catastrophe from taking place.
     
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  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita


    What follows is not the entire Instruction but the sections that are most pertinent to our discussion. The document reads

    Our ultimate end is that of Voltaire and of the French Revolution - the final destruction of Catholicism, and even of the Christian Idea....

    The pope, whoever he is, will never come to the Secret Societies, it is up to the Secret Societies to take the first step towards the Church, with the aim of conquering both of them.

    The task that we are going to undertake in not the work of a day, or of a month or of a year; it may last several years, perhaps a century; but in our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on.

    We do not intend to win the Popes to our cause, to make them neophytes of our principles, propagators of our ideas. That would be a ridiculous dream; and if events turn out in some way, if Cardinals or prelates, for example of their own free will or by surprise, should enter into part of our secrets, this is not at all an inventive for desiring their elevation to the See of Peter. That elevation would ruin us. Ambition alone would have led them to apostasy, the requirements of power would force them to sacrifice us. What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a pope according to our needs...

    With that we shall march more securely towards the assault on the Church than with pamphlets of our brethren in France and even the gold of England. Do you want to know the reason for this. It is that with this, in order to shatter the high rock on which God has built his Church., we no longer need Hannibalian vinegar, or need gunpowder, or even need our arms. We have the little finger of the successor of Peter engaged in the ploy, and this little finger is as good, for this crusade, as all the Urban IIs and all the Saint Bernards in Christendom.

    We have no doubt that we will arrive at this supreme end of our efforts. But when? But How? The unknown is not yet revealed. Nevertheless, as nothing should turn us aside from the plan drawn up, and on the contrary everything should tend to this, as if as early as tomorrow success were going to crown the work that is barely sketched, we wish, in this instruction, which will remain secret for the mere initiates, to give the officials in the charge of the supreme Vente [Lodge] some advice that they should instill in all the brethren, in the form of instruction or of a memorandum.....

    Now then, to assure ourselves a Pope of the required dimensions, it is a question first of Shaping for this Pope a generation worthy of the reign we are dreaming of. Leave old people and those of mature age aside; go to the youth, and if it is possible, even to the children.... You will contrive for yourselves, at little cost, a reputation as good Catholics and pure patriots.

    This reputation will put access to our doctrines into the midst of the young clergy, as well as deeply into the monasteries. In a few years, by the force of things, this young clergy will have overrun all the functions; they will form the sovereign's council, they will be called to choose a Pontiff who should reign. and this Pontiff, like most of his contemporaries, will be necessarily more or less imbued with the {revolutionary} Italian and humanitarian principles that we are going to begin to put into circulation. It is a small grain of mustard that we are entrusting to the ground; but the sunshine of justice will develop it up to the highest power, and you will see one day what a rich harvest this small seed will produce.

    In the path that we are laying out for our brethren there are found great obstacles to conquer, difficulties of more than one kind to master. They will triumph over them by experience and by clearsightedness; but the goal is so splendid that it is important to put all the sails to the wind in order to reach it. You want to revolutionize Italy; look for the Pope whose portrait we have just drawn. You wish to establish the reign of the chosen ones on the throne of the prostitute of Babylon; let the clergy march under your standard, always believing that they are marching under the banner of the Apostolic keys (Vatican).

    You intend to make the last vestige of tyrants and oppressors disappear; lay your snares [traps] like Simon Bar-Jona; lay them in the sacristies, the seminaries and the monasteries rather than at the bottom of the sea; and if you don not hurry, we promise you a catch more miraculous than his. The fisher of fish became the fisher of men; you will bring friends around the Apostolic Chair. You will have preached a revolution in tiara and in cope, marching with the cross and the banner, a revolution that will need to be only a little bit urged on to set fire to the four corners of the world.

     
  12. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    This is the crux of the matter.
     
  13. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I wouldn't go that far, Padraig. We should pray for the conversion of the faithless - even faithless Jesuits currently controlling the Church and hell-bent on destroying the papacy while dismantling the deposit of faith.

    The more I think about Anne Catherine Emmerich's vision, the more I'm inclined to think that the "little black man" could be referring to the black habit worn by the Jesuits. I'm also more inclined to think that the Pope who was very old and very ill could have been either Pope John Paul or Pope Benedict or perhaps a combination of both. There was pressure on Pope John Paul to resign when his illness was diagnosed and that's around the time the St. Gallen Mafia were choosing his replacement. Wasn't Cardinal Martini a Jesuit? And weren't there very strong rumours about his link to the Masons? Also, didn't Pope John Paul try to clean up the Jesuit order although he was more merciful than the current Jesuit Pope and didn't shut them down altogether. Although Pope John Paul didn't leave Rome, the false Church didn't go away. Pope Benedict did leave Rome because as Pope he was Bishop of Rome and left "Rome" when he resigned as its bishop.

    Perhaps Cardinal Burke has already lodged the Correction and has been warned that if he makes it public he will be excommunicated. Wouldn't that leave him with no option but to claim that Pope Francis, by his failure to affirm the Faith, has relinquished his right to be Pope? If that were to happen, the Cardinal and like minded Bishops would have to hold some kind of Conclave to elect a valid Pope. That would certainly lead to schism with Catholics having to choose between two Popes and I don't believe that Cardinal Burke would want the faithful to be faced with such a choice especially since the majority of Bishops would side with Pope Francis.

    Also, Pope Benedict said something to the effect that the Vatican's translation of the third secret of Fatima was just one translation but it wasn't necessarily the definitive translation. Perhaps all those dead priests in the Fatima vision were symbolic of priests who had lost the faith?
     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well if the whole history of the order they handed us Pope Francis, reason enough for extermination , I think.:):)

    more reason their very considerable support for the same guy...

    all recent Popes have been very, very hostile to these people

    I know Pope St \John Paul the Great despised them
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Me too SG. That is exactly how I pray for his intentions.
     
  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Yes, and the current Pope is well aware of it. True to form, he had a Spadaro type mouthpiece when he was Cardinal in Buenos Aires. I remember reading something about that mouthpiece making a statement critical of the then Pope (Pope Benedict) and getting himself a public rebuke which was considered a shot across the bows to Cardinal Bergoglio. Revenge is a dish best served cold and there's a definite chill in the air surrounding the Church's upper echelons these days.

    Something else that occurred to me about Blessed Anne Katherine's prophecy is that the Dominicans are known as the black friars. Is Cardinal Schoenborn a Dominican? He was influential during the reign of Pope John Paul. And didn't Fr. Malachi Martin say something about Pope John Paul being surrounded by traitors who were plotting and scheming behind his back?
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If I were the devil and planned to take over the Church ..

    ..given a hundred years ....

    .. I would hit the Jesuits and Dominicans first...


    ......sucesss


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  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    As it may be, I am happy to be alive today and hope to fulfill whatever God's will is for myself. St. de Montfort said the greatest saints are reserved for the end-times and they would outshine all others saints in history like the trees of Lebanon over the shrubs. Pray we remain faithful and clear minded in faith.
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    yeah, right. Wonderful. Absoltuley

    Pope Francis,


    Go, Go , Go.
     
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