President Trump

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers


    I was thinking of the the young King David in the readings in the Church at the moment. Jesus himself was of the line of King David and scripture shows he was the Lord's Chosen . But he was such a very , very human flawed man who made so many many, many gross mistakes. Including the theft of another man's wife and his murder as part of a cover up. But still God chose King David for His own purpose.

    I guess we have to be open to the fact that God writes straight in crooked lines very often.

     
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  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I agree with most of what you say, except that he was being used by God to turn things around. I believe he was used by God to unmask the many evils in our society. I don't see our country turning around, as evil will not let it. It will collapse our country, even if it allows China and Russia to do so, as so much credible prophecy foretells.
     
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  3. CrewDog

    CrewDog Archangels

    Exactly Right! If Trump is an agent of Satan then it's a very strange campaign we are witnessing! Trump has had 90% negative coverage from the LeftStream Media. ..... with near zero coverage of the booming Trump Economy occuring in spite of the vicious campaign of personal destruction of historic proportions. Only Talk Radio, FOX News and the Blogosphere is saving Trump and the Global Left wants to control/destroy that too. The godless Global Left is rich & powerful and the battle has just begun! Who would have ever thought that a loud mouth businessman-n-playboy from NYC would become Prez and champion of People of Faith and the Pro-Life movement ...... and the flipside is the thought of what's going-on in the Hierarchy of The Catholic Church! ..... A World Turned Upside Down!!
    I ain't predicting anything as we managed to bumble thru 17 without major catastrophe but I ain't throwing away my "sword" or consuming the stashed "beans" in my pantry yet!!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
  4. CrewDog

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  5. davidtlig

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    Cynthia, I am slightly amazed at the rough ride you have been receiving since you started posting perfectly reasonable and respectful posts about Trump. I'm only 'slightly' amazed because I tend to get the same treatment when I defend Pope Francis!

    I am interested in your posts. As I said on another thread, I am more interested in where Trump is now, rather than how he was in the past, although I respect your concern about him because of his past.

    I don't know if you have seen the video below which is a testimony which concerns Trump and which I find very difficult to dismiss.



    I will also add the following video about Melania's praying of the Our Father at a rally. Again, I find it difficult to dismiss this little event and I associate it, possibly, with the testimony above. I know you have told me you are positive about Melania.




    Are you not slightly impressed by the testimony from the priest in the first video? I am genuinely inrterested in your view.

     
  6. CathyG

    CathyG Archangels

    I don't disagree with you, Fatima. But hope springs eternal...
     
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  7. ComeSoon!

    ComeSoon! Guest

    I will say, as much as I was dismayed at his election, being of staunch mind that I couldn't let myself trust a word of his. From day 1 of the Inauguration, I have chosen to take a WATCHFUL stance. I knew something really different was at play there. I went head on into researching the bigger picture, could God be using this person that so offended so many, for purposes of His divine plan?? During the campaign was when I dove head first into researching Catholic prophesy to understand WHAT in this world and in the Divine Plan could really be going on. I knew God has a tendency to use the most unexpected from our world to bring about his greater plan. All I could think was, please God, I pray he doesn't get us all killed. If so, make me ready! (My concise personal thoughts and feelings about it all). Boy, have I learned more than I expected in the realm of Catholic Prophesy, YOUZa!!o_O:D

    I continue my stance of "now it's your job to show us your intentions and how you evolve on this global stage while previously speaking out of both sides of your mouth". I remain mostly quiet and watchful in mixed company. I grant you, it would almost take a bully to clean house in national politics/government.

    Yet, how is he getting away with the same talk and behavior that so many others in this country during the last year have otherwise lost their jobs or had the nerve to resign as a result? You know what I'm talking about, gross disrespect of women, unwanted advances, all of which both public and private etc. That behavior was no secret during the election.

    That being said, I am very intrigued by the American Solidarity Party. That is the only party I have found which seems to uphold all of Catholic values.
     
  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yeah I just can't think of him as a good person, I buy most of my stuff from charity shops. If I had a gold fitted toilet I would die of shame. If I lived in Trump Tower I'd be sure I was going right to hell.

    Did you know that 1% of the World's population owns 83% of the World's wealth? Well , I ask you?

    But God is full of surprises.

     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

  10. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I have reservations about Trump. Not because of his marital situation or things he did while in the entertainment business because I think it hypocritcal to demonise someone for what he did as a private citizen when those actions have been commonplace and often celebrated in the US and have been encouraged and promoted by what are now his most vocal critics. It is hypocritcal now to belittle what good he is doing by throwing his past at him. And it is certainly not Catholic to broadcast and crow about anyone's sins, using them to blacken his character especially when we don't know whether he continues to commit those sins because if he is committing them he isn't doing so in public. Unlike many "Catholic" politicians (and some high profile Catholic clergy) Trump isn't claiming to be Catholic while supporting or enabling practices which the Church teaches are intrinsically evil.

    The reality is that there were only two viable candidates for the job of US President and the alternative didn't bear thinking about for any believing Catholic. It is also a reality that there are very few politicians anywhere in the Western world who meet even a minimal standard of what is required to reverse the downward spiral. If that American Solidarity Party is serious and not just some outfit set up to ensure the election of the establishment's chosen presidential candidate, it needs to start at the grassroots. It needs to work its way into local government and spread from State to State, eventually getting people elected to Congress and the Senate. Then, when it has nationwide recognition, it will have a viable shot at the presidency. The alternative would be to organise within one of the two main parties, changing the party from within. That's what the anti-Christian, death promoting crowd did to the Democratic Party.

    My reservations about Trump are that he will be manipulated into compliance with the agenda of the regime changing war mongers in both parties and possibly in his inner circle.
     
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  11. CrewDog

    CrewDog Archangels

    Dolours sez: "My reservations about Trump are that he will be manipulated into compliance with the agenda of the regime changing war mongers in both parties and possibly in his inner circle."
    I'm not exactly sure what you mean in the above but if it's what I think it means?
    If in 1935 we had some "regime changing war mongers, we could have have nipped Fascist Germany/Italy and Imperial Japan in the bud and with a minimal expenditure of blood & treasure, we could have avoided the horror of WWII and the 45 year Cold War & Horror of Soviet Oppression behind The Iron Curtain!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

    PS:
     
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  12. Dolours

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    Today's regime changers would have replaced Hitler with Mengele.
     
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  13. CrewDog

    CrewDog Archangels

    So, Dolours.
    Please tell us who all these evil Regime Changers are ... Names please.

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
  14. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Trouble is, CrewDog, that we never know until the change is called for. Remember "Assad must go" to be replaced by those "brave" freedom fighters who turned out to be anything but brave or lovers of freedom? After that there was the wait for regime change in Iraq as IS butchered their way across that country. Now we have reports of representatives of the Free Syrian Army or whatever they call themselves meeting President Trump, the US is leaving ground troops in Syria and Erdogan is warring with the Kurds.

    I'm sure you recall John Kerry testifying about the disparate "freedom fighting" groups the US was arming in Syria and he couldn't vouch for any of them; IS conveniently raided the arms dump just after a delivery. Only last year, the BBC showed traceable US supplied weapons left behind by IS after a town had been liberated. According to that report, it only took a week or two between the arms leaving the US and reaching IS. And who can forget Kerry's spokeswoman Harf telling the world that jihadis wouldn't be jihadis if they all had better career options.


    I see Lynsey Graham as a war monger. John McCain is too ill to carry on but no doubt whatever interests he represented will find a replacement. War mongering and regime changing tends to be bi-partisan.

    Enough already.
     
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  15. CrewDog

    CrewDog Archangels

    YUP! Enough already of Neville Chamberlain like dangerous incompetents. Obama's John F-ing Kerry & Harf. Give me a break!! I'm all for the Kurds but I'm guessing they have their own problems. Syria is a side-show. Obama's Legacy, everywhere, is a &$^&*$ Disaster and Trump/USA is stuck with dealing with it. NATO is a joke and the EU a bunch of hand-wringing Better Rag-Head than Dead Fairies. I'm more worried about the Regimes in Iran, North Korea and China ... all of whom are in serious need of Regime Change!! ............ and the USA is, sadly, NOT the USA of 1945 ;-(

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

    PS: If you trust the BBC for your "News", you are living in a fool's paradise!
     
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  16. Dolours

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    Can't say I disagree with any of the above.

    I don't trust the BBC. Being funded by the British taxpayers, they have to give the impression of impartial reporting. For every one report similar to the above, they would give multiple times as many contrary reports. Also, that kind of report might be aired once or maybe twice at an off-peak time and the contrary reports repeated ad nauseum. That report appeared genuine. The reporter was in the town and the Iraqi soldiers showed him the weapons which possibly had been supplied to Saudi although I could be wrong about that.

    There's no doubt that the BBC and most other British news media are very, very anti-Trump. They all treated Obama like a Messiah and Hillary Clinton as the great female hope for humanity.
     
  17. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Honestly, I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for a pro-life third party candidate.

    That said, Trump has done more for the pro-life cause in his first year than any president since RvW.

    Trump claims he used to be pro abortion, but then someone he knew chose to keep their child when he could have been aborted, and he has grown very fond of that child.

    Frankly, I strongly suspect that child is his son Bannon, and his wife courageously resisted his pressure to abort, and now he's really glad he was born and his pro-life "conversion" is not just political expediency, but real.

    The way things stand now, if he runs again, I'll vote for him with a clear conscience, given all the poor choices being advanced by both parties.



    That said, please stop spamming our MOG forum with your constant anti-Trump pontifications. Its not welcome.
     
  18. garabandal

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  19. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Thanks!
    I wanted to read something like that.
     
  20. Rep. Matt Gaetz Rings The Alarm On Latest FBI Bombshell: “The United States of America is in Jeopardy!” (VIDEO)

    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) joined “Hannity,” Monday evening to give his take on the latest bombshell to rock the FBI. The Florida Republican told Fox News host Sean Hannity he believes the “missing” Strzok-Page text messages illustrate how precarious of a position the United States is in when it comes to law and order.


    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...mbshell-united-states-america-jeopardy-video/

    MYSTERY: Unmasking Requests By Samantha Power, Susan Rice EXPLODED During Period Of Missing Strzok-Page Texts

    In an interview posted to YouTube Monday, reporter Sara A. Carter told Fox News host Sean Hannity that Deputy Attorney Rod Rosenstein likely re-authorized FISA warrants against President-elect Donald Trump following the 2016 presidential election.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ce-exploded-period-missing-strzok-page-texts/

    With all of this exposure now containing Obama himself, as he weaponized his powerful agencies through their corrupted willing authorities, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him doing something else big in the world to save himself.
     
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