The Triumph

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by Fatima, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. Mario

    Mario Powers

    It is a beautiful prayer, Blizzard. Like with most seers/locutionists, it appears God does not infringe upon their personalities. The messages of Vassula always seem to be filled with metaphors and colorful expressions. In the above you have:

    flames will lick like tongues your inhabitants

    do not blast the lights out of our days

    do not allow the evil one to shed our blood like water

    I would suspect she has at least a propensity to be poetic which shows up in the messages. God respects his chosen vessels, if indeed she is one.


    Safe in the Father's Arms!
     
    Blizzard and josephite like this.
  2. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Ah, Mario, the True Life in God messages are full of symbolism and poetry. But I can assure you, Vassula's own English is very far from being poetic! Vassula is quite incapable of creating the language of the messages which are fundamentally Scriptural.

    But I better shut up about Vassula otherwise the usual protests will begin again... ;)
     
    IXOYE4me and Blizzard like this.
  3. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    But the
    But the truth is the truth.

    Several videos attest to this. Her English is basically correct and simple but it´s nothing like the language in the alleged messages.

    She seems more at ease using French. Here she´s being interviewed by a Peter Banister, whom I believe was a former member of this forum.

    But her native language is Arabic? Greek? - not sure.



    Now compare that with her use of English:

     
    IXOYE4me likes this.
  4. IXOYE4me

    IXOYE4me Angels

    And The Truth will set you free ~

    Whom The Son has set free, is free, indeed
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2017
    Blizzard and Carol55 like this.
  5. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Denis Nolan of MaryTV has now published a more accurate translation of what Marija was saying in her testimony in St Stephen's Cathedral last month that provoked some dramatic but misleading reports.

    What Marija said was: “I believe that with this year, as She said, begins the Triumph of her Immaculate Heart.”

    The full context of the sentence can be read at:

    http://marytv.tv/?p=2693

     
  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Thanks David for the clarification. With these words, I am convinced that we enter a new level within the tribulation. We see all the signs around us now, if we do not have our heads buried in our cell phones like the majority of the world. With these changing times we must change with it and enter deeper into prayer, double down on saying rosaries and penance. We will fight evil with good.
     
  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. I just have to go back to BXVI’s words: Remember. God wins in the end.
     
  8. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    This video was posted by Sunburst on another thread but I think that it is related to this thread also,



    The video could actually be posted on many threads on MOG. This priest's story is both sad and glorious at the same time. He is very compassionate when he states, "The Blessed Virgin will save the Church ..." . I think that it is worth taking a look at it.

    PS- And to think, this priest is not even one of the Signatories of the Filial Correction, maybe that would be too obvious to threaten excommunication of the clergy who are??? I am interested to hear others' opinion about this video. I'm adding this priest to my prayer list.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2017
  9. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Hardly, Carol!

    The video has been published by the 'WildVoice' channel that promotes the MariaDivineMercy messages!
     
  10. Dean

    Dean Archangels


    Yes Russia could get there, but not the way Putin runs things. This is a murderous dictatorship who literally kill reporters who write negative things and murder any political opposition.
     
    Fatima and Carol55 like this.
  11. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I have not seen the video, nor do I know much about the priest, but from what you say it reminds me of this fragment from the messages given to Sister Sasagawa at Akita of which I have emboldened the pertinent part:

    "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    "The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them"
     
    SgCatholic, HeavenlyHosts and Carol55 like this.
  12. Mario

    Mario Powers

    From Father Minutella's speech:

    Let us all stand up now, for Our Lady is coming to review her troops...

    My understanding of such a review is that a soldier's boots must be polished, the rifle cleaned, the uniform and equipment in good order, one's posture straight and upright, ready for battle...

    Song of Songs 6:9 Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in array?

    Am I?

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
    HeavenlyHosts and Carol55 like this.
  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    David,

    I meant that Sunburst found the video and posted it on MOG on another thread not that member Sunburst created it. I apologize for the confusion.

    I am glad that you pointed that out about The WildVoice, that they promote MDM. I am not very familiar with The WildVoice at all and like Praetorian I do not know very much about this priest so it is difficult to truly make a judgment about what has happened.

    I found the following article about this priest, Father Minutella, which provides much more background on this situation and helps explain why his situation is very different from the Signatories of the Filial Correction,
    https://onepeterfive.com/colombian-criticizes-francis-excommunicated/

    We probably will never know the truth in this particular situation but Father Minutella appears to be very compassionate about the Blessed Mother saving the Church and I still think that it is worth watching the video. In addition, he appears to be extremely hurt by what has happened to him and he could use our prayers regardless.

    I only recall reading about one other situation like this, a professor in Colombia was excommunicated for remarks he made regarding Pope Francis https://onepeterfive.com/colombian-criticizes-francis-excommunicated/
    and there is also Father Weinandy who has stated, “The USCCB strongly encouraged me to resign.”
    http://www.catholicworldreport.com/...y-the-usccb-strongly-encouraged-me-to-resign/

    Ultimately, these are very confusing times for many people.

    I know that you mean well, keep praying!
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2017
    HeavenlyHosts and Mary's child like this.
  14. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Mario,

    I am listening to Father Minutella for a second time now, I truly find his speech to be moving. There is a sincerity about him.

    At the 11min. mark, Father Minutella continues, "through the weapon of the Rosary let us free the Holy Church from this poisonous situation and this devious heresy...". In addition, he confirms the importance of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2017
    HeavenlyHosts, Mary's child and Mario like this.
  15. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    A couple of things. First off as far as I know Fr. Minutella did not make this video for "The Wild Voice". They simply posted a video of him making his statement. They also post videos of other people speaking that are not associated or produced by them. Just because something is on their channel doesn't mean it is wrong outright.

    My take on this video is that it appears to be a good priest who is trying to do his best to warn the people about what is going on in the Church. It starts off with a very Marian devotional quality, then at some point switches to this priest's legal battle. Unfortunately I know nothing about the ins and outs of his particular struggle legally so it is hard to say anything in particular about what he is saying. Priests do owe fidelity to the Roman Pontiff. It doesn't seem from the video that he denies this, but there seems to be a back and forth going on between him and those in authority over him.

    Of course one could easily make the argument that this priest is just following his conscience couldn't one? Why is it that conscience is king except when it gets in the way of the Modernist agenda? Then it is to be hounded and scourged wherever it is found.

    The answer to that is obviously hypocrisy. Modernists don't really believe in conscience. If they did then they would be championing this priest for speaking his mind and following his. No what the Modernists in the Church want who are pushing this new un-Catholic agenda is to create a libertine atmosphere. This priest obviously does not agree with that so into the fire with him. Hypocrites!

    That being said I would definitely urge people to avoid "The Wild Voice" web channel as a whole. They do promote the condemned Maria Divine Mercy messages and also as far as I can tell believe and promote the idea that Pope Francis is the False Prophet.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2017
  16. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    It´s still great news.

    So the astronomical sign of Sep 23 may have meant something after all.

    Not the miraculous triumph on that day but the beginning of a process which will take we don´t know how long but which ultimately will lead to the definitive triumph!
     
  17. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    What Marija said was: “I believe that with this year, as She said, begins the Triumph of her Immaculate Heart.”

    Someone told me that Orthodox mystic Vassula may also have said something to that effect in a recent talk in Australia.

    Can´t confirm...

    [​IMG]
     
  18. IXOYE4me

    IXOYE4me Angels

    Reading on another thread ..

    things like Honesty, Truth, where are the saints of today, and of Luther .

    Well since Vassula's name has been mentioned ...



    Not sure of Australia .. but in a Talk in Turkey, in 2007, she gave a speech on "The Unity Our Lord desires .. .."



    a few paragraphs and the link for the written speech . ...



    it is a very good word for our day



    From Our Lord ...

    .



    ""Christ, offended,

    said in a message:

    "My Kingdom on earth is My Church and the Eucharist is the Life of My Church, this Church I Myself have given you. I had left you with one Church but hardly had I left, just barely had I turned back to go to the Father, than you reduced My House to a desolation! You leveled it to the ground! And My flock is straying left and right. For how long am I to drink the Cup of your division? Cup of affliction and devastation!"'



    (Novemeber 14, 1991)



    A cry from the Sacred Heart ..



    Christ's call for Unity of Christians



    http://www.tlig.org/en/churchunity/cryforunity/



    A portion of the talk ..



    ""



    There are two choices here. The first choice belongs to God and comes from God and that is: to live in love, peace, humility, reconciliation and unity. The second choice belongs to Satan and comes from him and that is: hatred, war, pride, lack of forgiveness, ego and division. It's not so difficult to choose. But then, when we choose and take part on God's side and not act on it we will be held accountable and we will all pay for every arrogant attitude, every pride, every prejudice, for our grudge, for the lack of charity for our coldness and for every word we uttered against one another, for our ego, and so on, because we would be breaking Christ's Commandments. It's as simple as that.



    In Judgment Day we cannot tell God that He has not shown in our times His Mercy and that He has not shared His designs, nor could we pretend we have not heard Him in His Calling nor that we have not understood Him. I know, as well as you know, that the Signs of the Times are calling us all for Unity. How is it that some of the authorities of the Church are unable to read the Signs of the Times? We cannot dismiss those signs coming from the Holy Spirit, and yet some do. This is because they have lost the sense of the supernatural and believe only in naturalism and that is a grave sin.""



    These sterile actions go against what Christ asked the Father in His Prayer when He said:

    "May they be one in Us, as You are in Me and I am in You, so that the world may believe it was you who sent Me." (Jn 17,21)



    ""



    And you will see, my friends when these words will be uttered, the reaction of those who hold back unity and who hold the keys to the Kingdom of God, neither going in themselves nor allowing others to enter; it will be identical to those of the then rulers, elders and scribes,

    "to stop the whole thing spreading any further among the people, let us threaten them against ever speaking to anyone in the name of Christ again." Acts 4, 17.""



    Let us ask our Lord to send us His Holy Spirit who is the Source of Christian Unity to enlighten those who still raise objections in the way to unity.

    God's ways are not our ways...



    One way or another...

    God's will, will be done!
    Onward towards the Triumpth!
     
  19. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    For the record, although someone has suggested that Vassula mentioned something like this earlier this year in Australia, I do not believe it. But I am trying to establish what she might have said that has been interpreted in a particular way.

    The problem these days is that we have been waiting for so long for an intervention from on high that we can start interpreting the mildest of statements to 'fit' our desires. Think of those strong souls who accepted the visionaries of Garabandal and who have been waiting from the 1960s for imminent events!
     
    Blizzard likes this.
  20. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Imminent in heaven can mean decades lol

    The timetable above is different from ours!
     

Share This Page