The third secret of Fatima....new developments.

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  2. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    But She also warned us, “If My requests are not granted, Russia will spread her errors throughout the world raising up wars and persecutions against the Church, the good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated.”

    I have been listening to this 7 part audio book at work[70hrs worth].It is quite famous but I never have really looked at it.
    Talk about ERRORS.
    We seem to have learned nothing.



     
  3. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    Can't get this to work Mac it's not loading. Sounds interesting , 70 hrs I probably won't have a chance but I could listen here and there. Is in on YouTube.
     
  4. Aviso

    Aviso Guest

    Hi Mac my Friend, can we have a summary, your knowledge about Fatima is good (you probably were at good School ;)) so your summary will be sufficient for me as I will never have the necessary time to listen the full audio, thank you.
     
  5. Child of God

    Child of God New Member

    Hmmm ... long teeth on left- short on right; flat nasal bridge on left- sharp nasal bridge on right; long oval face on left - short square face on right.
     
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  6. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    I got this to work eventually yesterday evening. I'm just over 2 hrs in and it is very interesting. It's madness at the highest level and to think this is life.
     
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  7. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    Mac thank yo, I completed the link you have up yesterday. It's shocking but not surprising how a nation devoid of God can turn on each other from the top down. How they suffer. If ever a nation needed the true Holy Family it's Russia.
    And I believe this will come again to us all if we do not have a Divine intervention.
     
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  8. MomsCalling

    MomsCalling Principalities

    Nasal bridge is the same, both narrow.
    She has dentures on the right. I can show you a picture of my mom who had similar bad teeth when she was young, though not as bad and crooked as Lucia's was. The dentures she's wearing are very old, the teeth are very short from being worn down. My mom's looked like that when she had worn them for 40 years. After you wear dentures that have a perfect bite for many years, they change the shape of your mouth and jaw, and with added weight, her face will look very different. The end of the chin is the same. It's her, I have seen this argument many times. This is silly.
     
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  9. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    If one were to accept that the shape of her jaw had changed due to dentures, then her new jaw shape would look different from that of her relatives who previously shared the same jaw shape. Then how does one explain that it is only after the dentures had supposedly been worn, that she looks very much like her sister, with the same jaw shape?

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    jaw is not prominent; shape is not squarish




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    jaw shape is squarish and prominent ;her sister maria dos anjos has the same squarish and prominent chin
     
  10. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    The habits in those pictures are different. One covers the jawline and one leaves it exposed.
    Also jowls develop as one ages and fills out the lower face (at least in some people).
     
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  11. MomsCalling

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    To me the fact that she looks more like her sister in her older age is proof that it is indeed her. It's not her sister being an imposter. They're not the same. It's just another stupid conspiracy and it's one that really irritates me.
     
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  12. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Sigh.

    The point I'm trying to make is that earlier on in this thread, people tried to explain the change in jaw shape from Sr Lucy 1 to Sr Lucy 2 as being due to dentures:

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    If this were true, Maria dos Anjos (who is supposed to be the blood sister of Sr Lucy 1) should have the same chin as Lucy 1, because that would be in their genetic make-up.

    Instead, she has the same chin as Sister Lucy 2.
     
  13. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    The difference in their chins/jaws is too great. The side profile is self evident. Jowls do not make a chin protrude. It's only the bone structure itself that can explain it.
     
  14. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Our thinking is the same on a lot of other things, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one :)
     
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  15. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    I'm posting this pic I found via Google that shows the young Fatima seers with their mothers. I think it's not a commonly seen pic. Just for interest's sake.

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  16. MomsCalling

    MomsCalling Principalities

    The protruding chin vs. The not so protruding chin is still due to her terrible teeth and her overbite and the difference it makes when you have Dentures. I'm going to have to dig up some pictures of my mom when she was a girl and today or close to today in her seventies and eighties. It does not look like the same person. The chin is totally different because the teeth don't stick way out now. When the teeth stick out the chin goes in. When the teeth go in from flat dentures the chin will appear to protrude more. The jowls make her face more square and it's just simply a silly thing that anybody is concerned because if you look at Children's pictures versus old adult pictures all day long you're going to find differences that look like this. And you say that her sister looks like Lucy 2 instead of Lucy 1, well that's exactly what I said, because they're both old and they should look the same and so that one I just laughed about.
     
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  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I worked with a man who had dentures have this affect on his underbite and weak chin. He looked very different afterward as well.
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This is not about the third secret, but it is about Fatima. I just read in The Catholic Standard, the official Catholic newspaper of the Archdiocese of Washington, DC, that a pilgrimage is being planned for the October 13, 2017 Hundredth Anniversary. The editor wrote a long and descriptive article about the history of Fatima, the three children, and the Miracle of the Sun. I will not be able to go but I will watch everything with interest.
    I am excited that this trip is being planned on the Archdiocesan level. :)
    Also, the trip will include Guadalupe in Spain, Zaragoza in Spain, and Lourdes. Wow!
    When I read about this, the feeling came over me that all is not totally lost yet. Some days I have to cope with a lot of gloom and try to find ways to climb out of my spiritual funk and malaise. I find myself looking forward to this October, now.
     
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  19. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Pope Francis: I will entrust the destiny of humanity to the Virgin in Fatima...



    Once again the point is missed.The Virgin entrusted the destiny of humanity into the hands of the Pope.
     
  20. davidtlig

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