Insight

Yes, a break for prayer is called for. I've been asking Our Lady for several days what she desires. The answer was simple. More Rosaries, i.e., prayer.

 

I logged in today to share with everyone that we had our family consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary yesterday. We had three Missionaries of Charity and our Fr Kruse here. I have been preparing for weeks and was so excited. It was beautiful and I was so happy.

I checked the forum before logging in and this post was at the top.
With the title "insight", I thought it might be something deep and thoughtful from Padraig, so I clicked on it before sharing about the consecration.
I was and still am in a state of unbelief, especially since our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary has been accused of calling the Pope a heretic.
"Misguided" or "in error" perhaps, but a heretic? These words are not from Mama Mary.

Increpet te dominus Deus. Obmutesce.

This is no longer the place I thought it was.
Delete me if you wish.
pcj

 

You are able to delete yourself if you wish, Jill.

I do indeed think the Pope is a heretic.

 

Though maybe before leaving , praying to Our Lady about it might be an idea before you go.

God bless you in either case.

 

If you are adamant about the Pope, then I must go Padraig.
Something bad is festering here.
God bless you too and I will pray for your protection.
Shalom,
pcj

 

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Brian K dont you dare use Mother Theresa to blaspheme the Pope. She would not allow it.
Please delete me Padraig.
This is a bad place.

 

God have mercy Padraig. I cannot believe that you are saying these things. I actually thought you might have been hacked.
After all our Lady has said regarding staying with the Pope.
Welcome to the test. You just flunked it.
Remove me from the adminstration. If even after reading Peter B.'s book, reading Mark's writings and Charlie 's warning of this trap, you continue with this. This is exactly what MDM spewed. And Kelly Bowring.

Christ doesn't make mistakes. Francis was validly elected and he holds the keys.
My friend, this breaks my heart that you of all people are leading people astray. You will be responsible for your sheep. You cannot sincerely say, "Who would listen to me?"
This is your forum. That is false humility. Our Lady gave YOU the responsibility.

I posted Mark's newest writing to help you see what is truly happening. We are being sifted.
I believe you are being deceived.
I love you and hope you realize that a spirit of division has taken over the forum.
By not recognizing the authority of the Pope, you are in schism. You excommunicate yourself.
http://m.dummies.com/how-to/content/catholicism-excommunication-and-other-penalties.html

I'm sick over this Padraig, but no one wants to tell you that the emperor has no clothes. I will.

 

Anna M Silvas
St Basil has a great homily on the text: "Only take heed to yourself and guard your soul diligently" (Deut 4:9). We must attend to our own dispositions first. The Desert Fathers have several stories in which a young monk secures his eternal salvation through the heroic meekness of his obedience to a seriously flawed abba. And he ends by bringing about the repentance and salvation of his abba too. We must not let ourselves be tempted into any reaction of hostility to Pope Francis, lest we become part of the devil’s game. This deeply flawed Holy Father too we must honour, and carry in charity, and pray for. With God nothing shall be impossible. Who knows whether God has got Jorge Mario Bergoglio into this position in order to find a sufficient number to pray efficaciously for the salvation of his soul?

I notice that Cardinals Sarah and Pell are silent. What wisdom there may be in that – for the time being.

 

"Christ doesn't make mistakes..."
We cannot take this to mean that Pope Francis was specially selected by him. There is such a thing as the good Lord's permissive will and one does not have to look too far into the wells of history to see that there have been some disasters on the throne of St. Peter.
If indeed he is a heretic we can rest assured that he will never be allowed to formally teach it from his unique position of authority as the vicar of Christ.

 

I am quite sure I am right in this, Marti. But I understand perfectly that you are being decieved in this as are many.


These are indeed times of testing as you indicate. Some will go down one road and some another. I ahve no wish to go down the road of long protratcted arguments about this for what really would be the use? I will write this however. I have been shown how things will go in the future as regards to this. Poep Francis and his fellow modernist Cardinals (who are alos in gross heresy) will rather like a satellite going into erratic orbit commit further and further more and more gross heresies. Once they start down this road they will commit to more and more gross error. At some point , hopefully soon a large group of Cardinals wil lcall upon him to recant and at this point I believe the Church will go into formal schism.

Pope Francis and his fellow heretics will be supported by the secular powers, those of the devil and will suport hand his fellow heretics and a persecuatio nof the Faithful remant , who will be described as reilgious fundamantalists , zealots and so will begin. just as Catholic Prophesy and the Book of Revelations indicated.

I do not ask people to believe me at my own word. Why on Earth should they ? But to observe closely what Pope Francis says and does now along with the gang of heretics he has wrapped round him. I t will increasingly become apparent to all of good heart that the path they are taking is a very false one. A road that leads to hell.

I also beleive events will quicken very rapidly in the near furture. Both with in the Church and without. For of course the fate of the Church is the fate of the world.

At the moment of course the Pope is stil lthe Pope even if he is a gross heretic. It is up tot eh Fiathful Cardianls to act in this regard, which I hope they will do very soon. Hopefully the Faithful who are deluded like yourself will pay close attention to these men when they do act.

Till then...

 

All true, I think people, Catholic people are being mislead under a mistaken assumption about Papal Infallibilty. Papal Infallibility does not mean that everything any Pope says is in errant.

I am reminded of the remark of the famous English historian Edward Gibbon who visited Pope Pius ix shortly after the First Vatican Council decalred the Doctrine of Papla Inffalibilty on 18th July 1870.
Edward Gibbons was asked if he found the Pope to be infallible in his interview to which Gibbons wisecraked, 'I don't know about infallible but he called me Mr Jibbones'.

I think often people are not exercising a true discernment about the heresies this Pope is promulgating because they falsely beleive everything a Pope says always has to be true. That this is Catholic teaching. But it is not.

It is rather like me beleiving birds cannot speak. Then one day I emet a parrot and he says hello to me and I simply do not hear him , because, well birds do not speak.

 

Hello again Padraig,

You are warning us that very shortly we will see clearly that the deceit will be so obviously coming from the top.

Others, true to our Faith will launch a challenge. There will be no retraction and chaos will abound, all at the same time as seriously worrying world events multiply.

And hope will come?

 

Our Lady promised us in Fatima that, 'In Portugal the Dogma of the Faith will be preserved'. So we know in the first place their will contiue to be a Faithful Remnant in Portugal at least. Surely in other places too.

Our Lady also promised in Fatima, 'In the end my Immaculate Heart will Tirumph' Sow e see this deceit will be overocme and the Church return pure and even stronger than before. But for a while it will look as if everything is lost, heresy everywhere abounding and triumphant. Everywhere victorious. But in the end the back of Satan and his allies in our Hieararchy will be broken.

We have the promise of heaven.

 

What is currently happneing is this. A crisis of courage in what I will call the Institutional Church. Many , many , many of our Bishops Cardianls and priests along with professionals who earn their living from the Church, such as journalists, Professors and teachers, academics theologians and so are perfectly aware of the fact that Pope Francis is leading us into gross error. However they owe their livings and positions to the Church. If they apeak out they will losse everything. So they keep silent. They are afraid. Not only would they loose their living but they know they will loose their reputaions an be spat upon.

However I have nothing to loose by speaking out and so I do at the urging of heaven speak out. being spat upon will be very good for my humility and I look forward to the insults as A starving man looks forward to fresh bread.

I think a good example of this silence is Michael Voris from Church Militant. he and his colleagues knwo very well that the very grossest heresies are being taught by Pope Francis. yet he and they say nothing. Why because he knows if he speaks out his whole house of cards wil lfall down around his head. So he remains silent. Oh yes he hints and kind of points , but he does not speak out.

Again i go back to the sotry of the Emperors Clothes. I am the smallest child who says the Pope is not longer wearing the clothes of Orthodoxy. Only a very, very little child would say such a thing when the great and powerful stay silent and the world applauds and idolises our Pope for his gross heresy.

 

It's the time to watch and pray and watch the unfolding. God is letting us reap the harvest of 40+ years of rebellion to Humane Vitae. It's a very bitter harvest and it has prisoner our marriages, our planet, and our very identity as man and woman created in the image and likeness of God. Don't ask how can God allow this, we have earned this punishment by Our failure as a church to defend the truth of God's laws. Our Lady has warned us in Fatima, in Quito as Our Lady of Good Success. She is appearing all over the world appealing to us to pray for priests, for all sinners, and for our families. Don't be dismayed at anything you hear just focus on Our Lady's requests and all things will be well again. Now is the time as never before to fast and pray pray pray

 

Yes Our Lady was sent firstly to save the Church and so the world; firstly and foremost the Church in this it's great agony.

 

The Great Apostasy has begun..

 

Hi Mario,
I know what you mean, I too need the world to stop turning.

Lets take a breather. And let God.

I think Padraig is saying... Our Holy Father is saying things that are on the face of it, seem to be heresy and yes when taken at face value, many things he has said over the past few months boarder on heresy or are in fact heretical statements but he has not changed doctrine nor has he spoken infallibly on any issue that can be taken exception to.

The church is a safe place.


If a pope ever attempts to change doctrine and dogmas, I believe that that lightning strike on the vatican, [when Pope Benedict resigned] would become a very personal lightning strike on the person attempting to change doctrine!

Our Lord said he will be with us to the end and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against the church. So we are not to worry but instead we are to hope and pray.

I don't think anyone has excommunicated themselces here with this discussion, as we are all questioning the state of affairs at the moment.

If I believe some prelate is in error and even if I voice this concern, I have not excommunicated myself. I have just posed the dilemma of faith that I now face.

 

No pope can change Doctrine as such.

What he can do is change to pastoral application of Doctrine and that is what he and his friends are currently doing. Changing Doctrine without actually changing Doctrine , though the back door if you like. The devil is perfectly aware he cannot come through the front door, so like any good burglar he is coming through the window. Through these , 'Off the cuff' remarks at press conferences in the sky, well away from the Vatican. But they are growing more confident and blatant by the day. Be in doubt, the devil is firmly in the driving seat in the Vatican at the moment but is clever enough to rev up the engine gently. I have noticed but he is driving faster and faster as he grows more confident in his friends there.

I am sure he cannot believe his luck.


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