Evil Empire or Russia Consecrated?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Richard67, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. Eamonn

    Eamonn Guest


    I totally agree with what you said about the Western Leaders they are totally corrupt in every way, but i myself personally think the Eastern Leaders are also totally corrupt. As far as MH17 is concerned i don't think it was a deliberate act on behalf of the Russians, i do think they made a bad mistake which happens in war especially if you are fighting a war with a Secret Army who you continually deny are there fighting a Covert Operation. The same thing applies to the American Covert War they are using Drones instead of Buk's the only difference is they are Killing innocent people at weddings in Afghanistan who the world doesn't much hear about or care about. The big mistake the Russians made was killing Westerners as i said before they just made a bad mistake for which the Hypocrites in the Western Media are going to make them pay dearly for. I also see it as one more number in the combination of the Fatima and Garabandal lock which we can all see beginning to open.
     
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  2. DeGaulle

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    One can't rule out the possibility that there are no "good guys". Few on here have much knowledge of anywhere other than the West, and it is apparent that there are few good guys in our power structure, either politically or in the global multinationals. Perhaps the same applies everywhere-human beings tend to be like that.
     
  3. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    NATO MEMBER TURKEY SUPPORTS CHRISTIAN-KILLING ISIS:

    Some Turkish officials have ‘direct financial interest’ in the oil trade with the terrorist group Islamic State, Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev said as he detailed possible Russian retaliation to Turkey’s downing of a Russian warplane in Syria on Tuesday.

    “Turkey’s actions are de facto protection of Islamic State,” Medvedev said, calling the group formerly known as ISIS by its new name. “This is no surprise, considering the information we have about direct financial interest of some Turkish officials relating to the supply of oil products refined by plants controlled by ISIS.”

    “The reckless and criminal actions of the Turkish authorities… have caused a dangerous escalation of relations between Russia and NATO, which cannot be justified by any interest, including protection of state borders,” Medvedev said. https://www.rt.com/news/323373-ankara-defends-isis-medvedev/
     
  4. Russia is not targeting ISIS but the Syrian rebels who wish to take down Assad.....because Russia wants to keep Assad in power, at least temporarily, as their person for entry into the Middle East for their plans to control 60% of oil and ability to control the EU (and others) through their energy dependence upon Putin!
     
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  5. Richard67

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    The "Syrian Rebels" are terrorists and almost none of them are Syrian. They are paid mercenaries and have committed countless atrocities against the Christians, Alawites and other minorities of Syria. There never was a popular uprising against Assad. The majority of Syrians support Assad and the Catholic authorities of Syria have repeatedly made it clear that Assad is fighting terrorists.

    The missiles that recently shot down the Russian Su-24 were American-made and American-supplied. The anti-tank missile that recently destroyed a Russian rescue helicopter (in the video below) killing one Russian Marine was also American-made and American-supplied to these terrorist "Syrian Rebels":




    The West has knowingly supported Islamic terrorists in Syria, Iraq, Turkey and elsewhere. Obama, McCain, Nuland and the rest of the warmongers are traitors and war criminals and are neck deep in the blood of innocent Syrians (and now Russian servicemen).

    Thank God for Vladimir Putin.
     
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  6. They're all terrorists....no need to differentiate....except to more explicitly demonstrate the motivations of those who are entering into the chaos....and for their own obvious and devious plans of power for themselves. And so far they're all doing the work of the evil one/powers for world domination. Anything now that is connected to our country is mainly due to the intentional fecklessness of our current regime with its own goal of cooperation in such chaos....and adding to it (creating it) intentionally.....to the detriment of our own. It's a sideshow to paint a false intention for consumption by the clueless. "Zero" has been on the side of Commie/Muzzie world domination from the beginning of his reign....with much "flexibility" on Mr. Putin's behalf from the very start as was the plan for his placement. Assad is hated by separate factions but for different reasons.....and he is hoped in as well but only out of desperation. No saints there....but for the martyrs/victims.
     
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  7. Richard67

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    Yes, you are correct that all the Syrian Rebels are terrorists.

    Mr. Assad and the Syrian Army are not terrorists are are the legitimate authorities in Syria. The Catholic bishops in Syria support Mr. Assad.

    There never was a popular uprising against Assad. The uprising in Syria, just like the uprising in Ukraine, was organized, funded and armed by the Western intelligence services for the sole purpose of regime change.

    Vladimir Putin is not a villain nor is he on equal footing with Barack Obama. As far as I am concerned Putin is the leader of the free world and Obama is an antichrist.
     
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  8. picadillo

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    I could not agree with you more Richard!
     
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  10. DeGaulle

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    It struck me while thinking about recent events and after reading these posts that Putin's strategy of attacking the official Obama rebel groups (those nice moderate, cuddly Al-Qaeda teddies) first before taking on ISIS may have been to expose Obama-with the other rebels eliminated, Obama would have to show his cards once and for all, Assad or ISIS.
     
  11. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    You know what gets me, shortly after Russia brought its Jets to its base in Syria. Many media reports in the US stated the US has ended its freedom fighter program after spending 500 million on screening personnel and only found 5 men to train...lol I want that job, nice pay !!!
    Then Russia starts bombing rebels/terrorists and again the media in the US/ Obama/McCann & co say Russia is bombing the forces we trained to fight Assad ...all 5? Seems now we learned about the Turkmen rebels in Syria who Turkey protects. This getting more twisted by the moment.
     
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  12. Basto

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    The cold war of the 20th century was much easier to understand, at the moment it looks like the bad ones are at both sides…
     
  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    [​IMG]
    World leaders scramble to defuse 'monstrous' new crisis over Russia's downed jet: Putin ratchets the tension by dispatching warship to Mediterranean as Moscow expert warns war is 'likely'
    • Russia warns of 'serious consequences' after Nato country downs Russian military jet for first time since 1953
    • Two pilots were reportedly shot dead by Syrian rebels as they parachuted from burning Sukhoi Su-24 warplane
    • Third Russian said to have died when rescue helicopter was hit with anti-tank missile by another rebel group
    • Russia denied plane had been in Turkish airspace but Nato secretary-general says assessment showed it had
    • A warship has been deployed to the Mediterranean Sea to destroy potential threats to Russian forces in Syria
    • Britain has declared military back-up is on standby to support Turkey in any revenge attack by Putin's forces
     
  14. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    This is a serious question.........

    We have been mired in filth for so long, how would we recognise whether Russia has been converted or is in the process of conversion? Doesn't the Russian Orthodox Church have Apostolic succession which is more than can be said of the myriad of Protestant denominations? If by conversion we mean moving closer to the One, True Church, isn't Russian Orthodox at least a few steps ahead of denominations that perform same sex marriages and not only have female priests and bishops but also priests and bishops in same sex unions?

    I'm not looking for responses based on people's nationalist or party political views because I view the Russian leadership as no better or worse that the leaders denouncing them. I'm not a fan of any of them. Like the rest of us, the Russians will get the leadership they deserve.
     
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  15. Praetorian

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    I think per soldier, this is the most money ever spent on military training by any country in the history of the world. They must be all be one man armies, I'm sure glad they're on our side. ;)
     
  16. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    We know what one man can do...:LOL:

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  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Russia, like every other country in the world, will need to be purified in the tribulation as they are far from living in the Divine Will as well. Let us not kid ourselves in thinking that Michel Gorbachev following statement was 'tongue and cheek':
    "There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep". —from Agenda: the Grinding Down of America, documentary by Idaho Legislator Curtis Bowers.

    And from Mark Mallett's latest blog he expands on the words from Gorbachev.
    For example, as former FBI agent, Cleon Skousen, detailed in 1958 in his book, The Naked Communist, the goals of Communism were precisely to infiltrate and undermine Western society. Among their 45 goals were these:

    #17 Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    [​IMG]#28 Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    #29 Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    #16 Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    #40 Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity, masturbation and easy divorce.

    #24 Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    #25 Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    #26 Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    #20, 21 Infiltrate the press. Gain control of key positions in radio, tv, and motion pictures.

    #27 Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the bible.

    #41 Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.

    —cf. Wikipedia; these goals were read into the Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35, January 10, 1963

    No commentary is needed as to whether or not the tail of the dragon has succeeded in these goals. And it’s not that the teeth of the dragon are entirely hidden either; they are simply destroying in a more subtle way: through the hands of doctors in abortion clinics, sterilization tents,[1]It is a documented fact that, under the guise of “vaccinations”, many women in third world countries have been sterilized by “health” programs. and now, palliative care wards.
     
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  18. Dolours

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    All those goals were well on the way to succeeding before the consecration of Russia. Is it possible that the dragon has found a new home across the ocean?
     
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  19. Richard67

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  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Her errors have spread. Consecration came late and not quite perfectly.

    It doesn't seem to me that Putin is now carrying out the Gorbachev programme. The latter may have been spinning a tale to exonerate what was, from a Soviet viewpoint, his complete and utter failure. Gorbachev was a weakling, and thank God for that. He lacked the ruthlessness necessary to attempt to hold the Soviet Union together. When the collapse began imagine how Stalin would have reacted? Gorbachev is just a pathetic self-server who has receded into political oblivion. If Russia is still a communist state, then the communists have the EU, the US, the UN and China as well-they have won hands down.
     
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