VACCINES

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  1. Indy

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  2. Don_D

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    Amazing isn't it? In the 90's I was put on an injectable medication that contained a cell line called HEK 293 for severe rheumatoid arthritis. It is a cell line sourced from an aborted baby girl. I took this medication weekly for 12 years and had no idea. The Pharma witch doctors certainly don't bother to tell anyone what is in their concoctions and it was not even publicly available knowledge that I am aware of until well after I stopped taking it.
    If you bring this to the attention of a doctor prescribing it in my experience they generally won't know what is in it. I had a doctor who wanted me to go back on this medication and I refused telling her why and she was incredulous that this was not the case and looked at me like I literally had a tin foil hat on. A few months later when I asked her if she had researched it she brushed it off completely.
     
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    The very good and kind doctor in the ER who was treating me for a hand wound was incredulous when I told him about the tetanus vaccine being derived from aborted fetal tissue. I’m amazed by your doctor’s indifference. But not surprised anymore.
     
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    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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    She's not my doctor anymore. My new doctor I told straight away I would not take any medication sourced from children's cell lines or which are DNA modifying. He understood straight away and had no issue with it. The kicker is this though. It severely limits the medications available to me, and the medications coming to market for this disease almost all use them or are being developed toward some kind of DNA modification. Pharma has become a bit of a monster IMO. I have tried alternative medicine before with little result but I think I will soon not have much choice in the matter.

    Anyone who is interested in Vaccine's and their safety ought to watch this documentary on the CDC's handling of the MMR vaccine results coverup here in the US. It speaks as well to the same vaccine in the UK. It will open your eyes. This documentary has been banned on Amazon, most of YT (unless you name it something different) and Netflix entirely. Watch it while you can.

     
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    Will watch tomorrow
    Thanks
     
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    I'm including the link because it won't play on other sites. It is both heart wrenching and infuriating. There is no happy ending to this documentary unfortunately but there is a request at the end to write our senators with some very specific requests which I will be doing.

     
  9. Fede

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    I read this today and sure gives us a lot to think of. Especially that they cannot state weather the vaccine affect repructive organs. How rushed this has all been. Ive mentioned I think previously that I believe they had this vaccine ready all along and prior to the virus being released and believe it was man made..just not sure if its release was intentional or an accident. And it would make sense that during their experiments on new viruses they would obviosly work on a vaccine. We are guinea pigs to them. In Toronto they've already announced we will be permitted to attend certain functions and places-, even hospitals without proof we've had the vaccine! This isn't going to get amy better..I guess we should expect it.
     
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    I saw this video of Fr Calloway and thought of posting it here for consideration about fetal cells in vaccines.

    He talks about fetal microchimerism, which is "a scientifically proven phenomenon of the process by which the fetal cells of a child remain in the mother after her pregnancy. When a woman becomes sick, those fetal cells that remained in her, go to the cluster of cells that are sick to fight off the sickness and make her well." All of this is about the fact that the Virgin has cells of Her Son within Her, making Her a living monstrance.

    However, this is worth considering when we see what "medicine" is doing, taking fetal cells obtained through the most horrible means imaginable and injecting them into humans where they will stay. It doesn't sound like something God intended for us, even if the cells were from ethical sources.

     
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    They only started rolling out the Mass (Pfeizer) vaccine yesterday in the UK.

    First to get it were Health Care workers who would administer the vaccine itself. It comes in two shots, ideally 21 days apart.

    But although it is only the first day and the folks getting it tend to be young and very healthy there have been reports of severe abreactions already on Day One. They are foot noting these reports on State (BBC) News in case it makes people run from the vaccine in horror (They really, really want people to take the shots):

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55244122

    Covid-19 vaccine: Allergy warning over new jab

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    People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

    It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

    The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said.

    The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

    They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal.

    Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

    Professor Stephen Powis, medical director for the NHS in England, said both individuals were recovering well.

    He said this was "common with new vaccines", describing it as a precautionary measure.

    Dr June Raine, head of the MHRA, said it was only right to take this step now that "we've had this experience".

    Reactions like this are uncommon, but do happen with other vaccines, including the annual flu jab.

    Several thousand people were vaccinated on Tuesday in hospital clinics on the first day of the UK rollout of the new Covid jab.

    Prof Peter Openshaw, an expert in immunology at Imperial College London, said: "The fact that we know so soon about these two allergic reactions and that the regulator has acted on this to issue precautionary advice shows that this monitoring system is working well."
     
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    Someone on Twitter found that a picture of this woman in the same clothing, etc was on a CNN article from October.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/iheartmindy/status/1336486877507932160
     
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    https://summit.news/2020/12/08/cnn-dont-be-alarmed-if-people-start-dying-after-taking-the-vaccine/

    Apparently CNN is saying not to be alarmed when people start dying after getting the vaccine because they will be giving it to old and frail people who were about to die anyway.
     
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    I've tried to warn my family. But it's like trying to push a stone up a hill. People tend to believe what they want to.

    I comfort myself with the thought that the true mass vaccinations will not get under way till next Autumn. Perhaps by then folks may get a glimmer...
     
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    In the past 5-10 years there’s been a huge campaign online against anti-vaxxers. It’s been an ongoing onslaught of “science” and “only morons avoid vaccines.” Add in that they are tying in the good reputation of some vaccines to apply to all vaccines and now people are supposed to accept anything.
     
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    I pray people will start to realize whats going on.

    I Draw your attention to this:

    " The medical regulatory agency also said vaccinations should not be carried out in facilities that don’t have resuscitation equipment."


    LONDON (AP) — British regulators warned Wednesday that people who have a history of serious allergic reactions shouldn’t receive the new Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine as they investigate two adverse reactions that occurred on the first day of the country’s mass vaccination program.

    The U.K.’s Medical and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency is looking into whether the reactions were linked to the vaccine. The two people affected were staff members with the National Health Service who had a history of allergies, and both are recovering. Authorities have not specified what their reactions were.

    In the meantime, the regulator has issued the warning for anyone who has had a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food. That includes anyone who has been told to carry an adrenaline shot or others who have had potentially fatal allergic reactions.

    “As is common with new vaccines the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely yesterday,” Professor Stephen Powis, medical director for the NHS in England, said in a statement. “Both are recovering well.”

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    The medical regulatory agency also said vaccinations should not be carried out in facilities that don’t have resuscitation equipment.

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    Pfizer and BioNTech said they were working with investigators “to better understand each case and its causes.″

    Late-stage trials of the vaccine found “no serious safety concerns,” the companies said. More than 42,000 people have received two doses of the shot during those trials.

    “In the pivotal phase three clinical trial, this vaccine was generally well tolerated with no serious safety concerns reported by the independent Data Monitoring Committee,” the companies said.

    Documents published by the two companies showed that people with a history of severe allergic reactions were excluded from the trials, and doctors were advised to look out for such reactions in trial participants who weren’t previously known to have severe allergies.

    Even in non-emergency situations, health authorities must closely monitor new vaccines and medications because studies in tens of thousands of people can’t detect a rare risk that would affect 1 in 1 million.

    Dr. Peter Openshaw, a professor of experimental medicine at Imperial College London, said there is a “very small” chance of an allergic reaction to any vaccine.

    The MHRA last week gave emergency authorization to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, making Britain the first country to allow its widespread use.

    The U.K. began its mass vaccination program on Tuesday, offering the shot to people over 80, nursing home staff and some NHS workers. It’s not clear how many people have received the jab so far.

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    As part of its emergency authorization for the vaccine, the MHRA required healthcare workers to report any adverse reactions to help regulators gather more information about safety and effectiveness.

    The agency is monitoring the vaccine rollout closely and “will now investigate these cases in more detail to understand if the allergic reactions were linked to the vaccine or were incidental,” he said. “The fact that we know so soon about these two allergic reactions and that the regulator has acted on this to issue precautionary advice shows that this monitoring system is working well.”

    Dr. June Raine, head of the medical regulatory agency, informed a Parliamentary committee about the reactions during previously scheduled testimony on the pandemic.

    “We know from the very extensive clinical trials that this wasn’t a feature” of the vaccine, she said. “But if we need to strengthen our advice, now that we have had this experience in the vulnerable populations, the groups who have been selected as a priority, we get that advice to the field immediately.”

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    Associated Press writers Frank Jordans in Berlin contributed.


    https://apnews.com/article/uk-allergic-reaction-pfizer-vaccine-64ddccd70c38a39f880da27941db3540
     
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    Fr Hardon Repeatedly said back in the 1990's,

    'The Media is Luciferian'. (quoting Marshall McLuhan)


    A good question to ask yourself when the Media is trying to sell you into something is,

    'Why are these people lying to me?'

    ..and take it from there as a starting point for onwards investigation.

    That's not being a conspiracist, it;s simply being realistic.

     
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    Most media is owned by a handful of parasi—err, elites. As much as they posture about being the fourth estate, they only can say what their owners want them to say.

    Just read some Edward Bernays books.
     
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    Worry if old people die of covid, don't worry if old people die of covid vaccine.

    These deaths will be counted as covid deaths too!!

    Let's get this world wide vaccine safety study underway!! :)
     
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    I am certain they will minimize the incident, but the fact that these individuals had an allergic reaction is a big red flag. Anyone who has severe allergies, and carries an EpiPen should run from this vaccine. I am following this closely since my grandson has a severe tree nut allergy, and always has bad side effects from routine childhood vaccines. I know that they are holding off on the vaccine for children under 16 until more studies are done, but most likely it will eventually be approved for children.
     
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