Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Woman Clothed WithThe Sun, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Here is the second part of Complementos 10 First Fruits School - La Montaña Santa
    translated slides in 4 PDF files attached here from




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    I want to note that there is a Diocesan Sanctuary in the Montaña Santa dedicated to the Bl. Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel with great attraction of visitors and devotion, served by the Diocese of Caguas.
    This devotion to Our Bl. Mother, official coronation of the Image, and the whole development of the site have their origin in the story of Elenita de Jesus, or "Vuestra Madre", etc.

    The identification of Elenita de Jesus with Our Blessed Mother is NOT recognized by the Church so far.

    Since her blood was discovered again, and then analyzed in 2013, a Diocesan commission has been appointed to re-open the investigation on the identity of Elenita of Jesus -which presented many difficulties.
    Among them it is obvious that it was actively avoided -and forbidden- any mention of the Bl. Virgin because the priests thought that it implied the belief in the reincarnation, which is obviously against the teachings of the Church. So it is very understandable why the point of the official identity is not yet cleared. So let's have that in the back of our mind.
     
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  2. You know how Antonio presents the incoming planetary system in his video of the Warning/6th Seal....or nibiru/planet X.....as the cosmological cause of the pole shift and thus everything stopping for a time as is also described via Garabandal and thus the moment of the pole shift and Warning.....well, here is a testimony by a NASA employee from years ago which I found also a few years ago, describing just such an effect from this massive "planet" which has only been witnessed via infrared cameras. This man mentions the fact that this "planet" system was reported on in the science magazines in the 60's as still around 50 or so years away from having its effects upon earth. IOW, just about now. Then the major media had several reports in the early 80s about same thing. After that everything seems to either have been scrubbed from public view or there have been purposeful agents of misinformation sent out for public consumption in order to debunk anything of such having been reported. So here is that NASA employee's rendition of what he and others (including CIA personnel) witnessed along with the experts. Please pardon this rather "down to earth" fellow's "French" in his rather vivid description of what to expect.;)

    NASA EMPLOYEE SPEAKS ABOUT PLANET X NIBIRU POLE SHIFT 6TH SEAL & TRUMPET 1 AT LEAST

     
  3. Also, in the above video of NASA employee's description of a "solar system" coming through our "solar system" it doesn't sound too different from the message that caused such a stir within the Emmitsburg messages re: the "Two Suns":

    June 1, 2008


    My dear little children, praised be Jesus!


    Little ones, thank you for coming to pray. Know how much God loves you. He has given you tremendous gifts.


    Children, for the last 20 years I have oftentimes spoken of “change.” I have told you that there is no time for fear; there is only time for change. You must know by now that I have recently spoken of an arising of “two suns.” When you see the two suns on the horizon, you must know that this is a time of change, a time of this new beginning about which I have spoken to you before. After you see the two suns, there is only a short time before you will see a tremendous change in weather. After this, as you know, there are more changes to come.


    Children, God did not create only the Earth. God is the Creator of the cosmos, with its many galaxies, many orbits, different stars and different planets. God is the Creator! There are other planets like earth, far beyond your understanding.


    I can tell you this: Even your governments and the Church authorities already have knowledge of the stars aligning and its implications upon you. You must not fear but must be prepared, primarily spiritually.


    After awhile, you will see a time when there is another body in orbit around your solar system, coming between Earth and the Sun and leading to tremendous devastation. Approximately 60-70% of the world’s population, as you know it, will cease. Of those who survive, 60% of them could die of disease and starvation.


    Prayer is the answer! Prayer can mitigate much of anything to come. Love and unity must be at the forefront, not survival of the fittest. But I can assure you that secretly those in governmental positions around the world and Church authorities all know. As your Mother and with you aschildren of God, it is my duty to forewarn you and to draw you to my Son for protection.

    Look not too far before you will see two suns. Make my words known to all people: Life is important because God loves you. Those who are in control of the financial world think differently. But I your Mother know what true Life is!


    So prepare, spiritually prepare. You will always be with my Son if you trust. God has a special plan, a new beginning! Look to Him; and do not fear, but love with all your heart.


    I look to you, and I answer your prayers. Even if you are a sinner, and even if you were wrong, I come for your intercession. Now you must remove your “self” from your desires and look to help all people.


    Peace to you (fading whisper).
     
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  4. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Since our Mother was assumed into heaven then it wouldn't be reincarnation. Just like it will not be reincarnation for Enoch and Elijah who were taken to heaven.
     
  5. Cathy Harmless

    Cathy Harmless New Member

    These slides are so interesting. THANK YOU
     
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  6. All very interesting.

    New Agers keep a handle on the Nibiru connection (and the Maitreya / antichrist figure is right there in that mix), but we don't hear about it in Christian circles, except for possibly the Emmitsburg prophecy, which I do not discount at all. I thought those messages were among the very best, and was sorry they came to an end for us.

    Now, my brother is a life-long avid astronomer, and devotes a lot of his money and energy to such things, but he doesn't buy the Planet X business. (?)

    There are many messages (and scientific conjectures) out there painting an unimaginably worst case scenario where most of the earth and its population are destroyed -- Akita calls for it, and Medjugorje seems to have such a horrific disaster in mind, too -- and yet Charlie says *only* 26 million casualties from the Storm -- most of those as martyrs -- followed by the rest going back to work, paying their bills, etc.

    On Charlie's side we hear about our ultimate enemy being China, from whom we we suffer a seemingly hopeless war, and on the other hand, we hear about planetary intrusion causing virtual annihilation.

    I don't see any way to reconcile the two views.

    What to think?
     
  7. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    One of Charlie's stated missions is to hearten the faithful. Would telling us that 80% of us are going to be annihilated hearten the faithful? Just sayin . . .
     
  8. No... I hear ya. But in the "Hope" department, he says his angel told him specifically 26 million to die from the Storm.

    And rescued just a bit over two years from now.

    A lot to pack in.
     
  9. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    I personally don't believe the most dire predictions. We have a merciful God. I instead believe circumstances will be very very dire and we'll all be on our knees begging for His mercy and that's when he sends Our Lady to rescue us. Does He want us all to die or does he want to shake us all to the core so we turn back to him and begin to live in His Divine Will?
     
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  10. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    I think it is important to be ready for Dire Circumstances as some if not many of The Faithful will find themselves "There" ... even to martyrdom ... it has always been so!! Has it not!?? Has not God, since ancient times, told us that he hears our prayers and will save us and our nations if The Faithful will turn to Him!?? That is our Hope-n-Salvation.

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    And what exactly does Charlie's 'Rescue' mean to you? Does it mean the storm is completed?
     
  12. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    I know how you feel Fatima and I agree with you. I don't think the rescue means all goes back to normal at that time. Instead I think it means we'll realize we aren't all going to perish (as before that point "the living will envy the dead") and that it's not all puppies and rainbows from the point of the rescue but at least we'll know it won't get worse and we can move forward in Faith. But it'll take years to rebuild and get any sense of normalcy back. I think that's what Charlie has said, that the rescue doesn't mean the battle is over but simply that it's clear then that we will prevail and "make it"
     
  13. One would think that "The Rescue" should mean that it's at least no longer storming on us: the Light breaks through, and martyrdom comes to an end.

    IF the "Locutions" are true (big IF), she keeps saying that when the Storm becomes unbearable, the Consecration will finally be done -- at its fullest -- and the Fatima gifts will be let loose; and the way she describes them being let loose by her spouse, the Holy Spirit, I have wondered if that could be the Illumination -- as the Great Day of Mercy. The Holy Spirit working in our souls, showing us the Truth.

    Many ways to look at that, but if the gift was the Illumination, there would still be time and events and personal suffering to go before all is accomplished that needs to be. Could the Illumination be considered a "Rescue"? Ultimately.

    If the Illumination was already passed (which is what I tend to expect), then the Fatima gift would be some kind of an outpouring of the gifts of the Holy Spirit on everyone left, an all-new Pentecostal event, which has been long prophesied, and we'd be set quickly onto a new way of life. So that might be called the "Rescue", too, with exultation all around.

    I say "we", but I don't presume to be around for it.
     
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  14. Patty

    Patty Archangels

    Charlie has said that Our Blessed Mother will visually and miraculously rescue us the end of 2017. He has heard the Song of Thanksgiving.

    "Even as you read this, those martyrs behold the Face of the Living God. They form a cohort around Mary, our mother. With her they intercede on our behalf. They will hold a place of honor as escorts in the procession of the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart. They will raise, with us, a great song of thanksgiving and praise when the people of the kingdom and the people of heaven unite for that Triumph. I have heard that song in visitation and long to hear it here."

    https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/the-beginning-of-the-triumph/

    So I feel if we actually live to see The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in 2017 we will really all see her! We won't care how bad things will be for a long while. Our faith will be so rewarded!
     
  15. I think that we may often forget priorities when we think about what is good and what is bad. We also tend to dismiss or not give a thought to what's God's PLAN for humanity is. Thus we judge things based on a life on earth centered on what we would like it to be. But that might be way off track with REALity.

    The only definitive catastrophe is that human people created to share God's divinity in Christ, may choose to rather end up in hell than to surrender to God.

    Life on planet Earth is the trip towards the GOAL. The trip can be long or can be short but it's till only a trip. Just think of any trip you take: the matter is that it gets you wherever you are meant to go, not the length of the trip.

    If 80% of population shortens the trip but get to their destination THAT'S THE GREATEST POSSIBLE thing, and it's also what we ourselves would choose if we had all the cards displayed and a mind and heart aligned with God, our Creator and Savior.

    It is just ridiculous to judge God based on our minute view of what good and bad is. God is SHEER GOODNESS and love. He can't desire and do but GOOD in everything He does. He is merciful but is not indulgent. He is patient but is also just.

    I wonder ARE WE WORKING hard enough on our own conversion? Are we praying, praying, praying, as we are asked to do in every possible prophecy and locutionist or are we just going on with our life in the hope that things "won't be that bad" or maybe they won't be bad at all ... If we are truly heeding the invitation to conversion and prayer then we are working also for everybody else in the planet.

    I didn't know that Charlie is talking about 26 million casualties. That's a big number or a small one, it all depends on what are we thinking of. Even for the USA 26 millions is only under 20% of the population. Scripture speaks in some instances of two thirds...

    So things are really serious. Yes they are.

    I think that we don't pay much attention either to what is God's GOAL that He is going -infallibly- to bring about with the End Times crisis: God wants humanity to live IN THE DIVINE WILL, truly the life of God by participation: Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
    I don't know you, but I'm way, way, way, far from that. So God really has to work some miracles to get me there and to make me so generous with my life as Jesus was in the Cross, concerned about God the Father forgiving His assassins and not concerned about His own suffering.

    So the dates, the ways, and the numbers are just a waste of time. What really, truly matters is that we HEED the invitations of the prophecies and prepare ourselves -and help others- as much as possible, in total TRUST that whatever is in store, God is in control, and He will make of it THE BEST POSSIBLE for each one of us. This is time to align ourselves and our Faith with that certainty. God will save us and our loved ones (this hopefully includes the whole planet population) if we but are open to receive His salvation.

    But to think about going back to business as usual after some bad days, months, and even years ... I think it's ludicrous at this point. satan will not give up on us until is chained away for a thousand years, and that is not going to be just "a little thing". Is going to be a defeat in full display together with ALL evil on Earth. Then will God make happen that there is a new Heaven and a NEW EARTH -this Earth where we stand today but made NEW.

    One way of practicing already now "living in the Divine Will" is to learn to accept God's judgment and God's actions -directly done or permitted- as the ultimate RIGHT thing and desirable thing to happen. We have the example of Jesus and Mary: they WANTED the Passion, they never pulled back from it because that was God's loving Plan of Salvation. "Nobody takes My life, I give it freely Myself" says Jesus.

    If the truth causes us to panic then we are not praying hard enough. All we need is confession, the Rosary, the Eucharist, fasting, and consecration to Our Blessed Mother, the Victorious Woman Clothed with the Sun that will lead the battle and the triumph of God's Plan.

    We can't forget how impossible it was for the Israelite -slaves in Egypt- to go out and start their own Nation in a territory already occupied by warriors of various kinds. God performed as many miracles as was needed to get them there because that was God's Plan. Israelite had to adapt and align with God's Plan, there was no "second best plan". It is the same now. It's going to be tough, and it's going to be tougher if we don't immerse ourselves in prayer and the Sacraments begging for the grace of detachment and the courage to trust God beyond life and death.
     
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  16. How is that rescue connected with Scripture? Where is the room (time) for the three and a half years of the reign of the antichrist that is going to be defeated???

    I certainly don't know what is he talking about but Scripture has a lot on the Day of Judgment and the End Times that just can't fit in less than two years I think.

    2017 may be the year of the Miracle, and we may see Our Blessed Mother in the Miracle. But that won't be the end of trouble since after that those who don't want to convert will have the control for a time, and times, and half a time ... before they are defeated.
    This is my take, which of course may be as wrong as any other.
     
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  17. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Don't forget that it's very possible (and at this stage, I'd say likely) that the reign of the Antichrist won't begin until sometime AFTER 2017.
     
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  18. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    And wouldn't that be just like God, to illuminate us with the truth BEFORE the reign of the anti-christ? Tips the tables in our favor, I would say!
     
  19. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I believe that this I exactly what our Lord will do. Messages given by our Lord to Verne Dagenais http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen speak very clearly to this subject. After the Warning mankind will have little time to choose whom they will serve, God or Satan. There will not be another choice. For those who accept the mercy of God, at this very point, will enter into a whole new realm. One spoken about often at this moment. It is living henceforth in the Divine Will. I believe this is the moment that the Rescue Charlie speaks of will take place. The remnant shall live in the Divine Will and under the mantle of our Blessed Mother 'in the wilderness', which is the rescue. The rescue is from the grips of the Antichrist. It is a rescue from the world around us that is being purified of the sins of the flesh. The remnant will be living their purgatory on earth, before the New Earth comes about (Fancine B. messages https://onedrive.live.com/?id=B14F478BA16042B4!2929&cid=B14F478BA16042B4&group=0). Once the world is purified through fire, the rescue will give way to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart over her adversary, which ushers in the era of peace promised at Fatima. There is simply to much prophecy to not see this coming about. Sadly, to many are stuck in this world criticizing our Pope and arguing pointless topics and they are missing what is being revealed. They will not have internal peace and joy until they leave the arguments of this world and enter into the era of the Divine Will that our Lord is calling us to at this moment.
     
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  20. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    We have a merciful God but God's justice is His mercy as well. A lot to wrap your mind around but if you really think on it I think you would come to the same conclusion. If it is in God's justice to destroy many to save the true pure people of Him, then that is mercy as well. He destroyed all but Noah and his family once because they were the only righteous people He could find. Had He not destroyed all, would they too fall out of favor with God? No one knows but God but that seems logical because if that were to occur then there would be no just people left in the world at all. It was Noah and his family that were charged to then repopulate the world. He never said He would not destroy His creation again, He just said He would not do so by water.
     

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