How do I have someone discern my article on http://www.afterthewarning.com john-Sevant of God

Just being nosey What profession?

 

I would be amazed if Father Hardon is not eventually declared a saint. What an interesting life!

I must admit I envy priests who come in direct contact with saints. I think if I knew a saint, given the chance, they would never get rid of me. To be anywhere near a saint must be like having a back stairs to heaven, if we are willing to use it.

I have known saints but they always seemed to be passing through, I was always lucky to get a few minutes in their company.

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/archives.htm

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Saints are everywhere

Padraig you are a saint. We are all part of the communion of saints. We might not be declared one by the Holy Mother Church. But each and everyone of us is called and most of us accept. The difference is ...do you become the rockstar saint or the everyday saint. Most rockstar saints would rather stay hidden and be everyday saints.

Whats my point to all this...rockstar saints might be closer then you think.

May Gods Will be Done

 

Not. not.....you?

 

That is so wise and so spot on Peter! I vote you theologian of the year! Hear--Hear!!

 

But Padraig, correct me if I am wrong, you yourself have come and told us many of your dreams and/or visions and several times have asked for discernment regarding dreams. You certainly have humbly said, "Well, if its true we will see". As a friend and as someone who is wiser than I, you would know better than I these spiritual happenings in your life. I think as the word "discernment" on these forums, I think it REALLY MEANS--WHAT DO YOU THINK?? That is a perfectly acceptable act. Asking that means "What is the Holy Spirit telling you about this??" THAT in itself allows the Holy Spirit to work through all --educated or uneducated in the spiritual.

 

I for one am sad John has left the forum. I have been enlightened about several things since he came. I too had seen Edgar Cayce's map and know two others who have seen the same map. The fact that John has seen the same thing gives it much more credence; especially since our good Lord told me seven years ago to get off the coast. He led us to Billings, MT, which is one of the places that has dry land after the chaos. I had no idea about these maps until after we got here.

Some of the holiest people I know have been called to start refuges. I also know those who have started them but in my heart they are doing it as the 'survival of the fittest' not because they were called by God to do it. I pray for them so they can discern truth.

I am looking forward to reading John's messages. The fact that he is NOW being called to bring them out publicly says alot. Times are truly short!!

 

I would be very, very careful about Edgar Cayce, Marti.

He clearly uses divination to obtain his , 'Prophecies'.

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'Daily for over forty years of his adult life, Cayce would lie down on a couch with his hands folded over his stomach and allow himself to enter a self-induced sleep state. Then, provided with the name and location of an individual anywhere in the world he would speak in a normal voice and give answers to any questions about that person that he was asked. These answers, which came to be called "readings" were written down by a stenographer, who kept one copy on file and sent another to the person who had requested the information.'



http://www.edgarcayce.org/edgar-cayce1.html

This is practise is forbidden by the Church under the First Commandment:

"YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME"

And is described in our Cathechism as follows:

Divination and magic

2115 God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.

2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future.48 Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another's credulity.

It is also of course condemned in Scripture:

“When you enter the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead" (Deuteronomy 18:9-11).

"For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so. The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among yot4 from your countrymen you shall listen to him" (Deuteronomy 18:14,15).

If as you
write,

'The fact that John has seen the same thing gives it much more credence...' , this would not give it more , 'credence' in my eyes but , quite the contrary be a very serious source of concern as it appears to link John to a form of witchcraft.

 

Dreams and direct messages from God are not on a par, Marti. No more than say we should treat ,say an individuals Gift of Tongues than say the Apparitions of Mary at Fatima. Fatima is clearly of urgent import to the world , its a matter of horses for courses.

As for John's messages I did not condemn them, I was only at the very start of the discernment process when John bolted. ..and bolt he did.

There were some aspects of this matter which caused me some concern but I had certainly not condemned them , then, neither do I now.

I must admit, though I am troubled too by John's reaction to critique of these messages. If I were in his position I would have expected certain misgivings to be raised .

I think the danger does not come from a certain healthy scepticism about such matters but of buying into such phenomena , hook line sand sinker' right from the outset. Of even more concern , in my view would be using a New Age, 'prophet' like Edgar Cayce, someone who is , effectively a witch as a major authorative source of support.

Now that really does concern me...

 

http://www.forgottenword.org/cayce.html

Written by Lou Whitworth
The Early Years

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In this essay we will examine the life and work of Edgar Cayce, often called "the sleeping prophet." He was a demonically inspired prophet and healer very popular in the sixties and seventies. Today his influence is stronger than ever as he helped pave the way for the popularity of "channeling."

Edgar Cayce was born in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, in 1877. His family was ordinary in most ways, except for a current of demonic dabbling and occultism among the males. His grandfather was a water witch and unerringly accurate in dousing for water with the forked limbs of a witch hazel tree. Many of his acquaintances held that he was also able to make tables and brooms "dance." Edgar's father was an unwitting Pied Piper of snakes. Apparently snakes loved him and followed him around and even wrapped their bodies around his hat brim if he put his hat down while working in the fields. It unnerved him so much that he moved from the farm into the city and eventually became a justice of the peace.

Edgar Cayce's childhood was very unique. As a boy he exhibited an occultic tendency to see and hear things that others didn't see. For example, he had "little playmates" who disappeared when others came around. They always grew with him and stayed his size, but after the death of a neighbor girl who could also see them, they seemed smaller. He realized that he was growing up and would soon lose their companionship.

As a young boy Edgar attended the Christian church and wanted to be a minister. He resolved to read the Bible through once for each year of his life. By age 13 he was working on his thirteenth reading in his favorite place, a playhouse by a creek in the woods, when he heard a humming sound. He looked up to see a woman in brilliant white clothing with wings on her back standing in front of him. She said, "Your prayers have been answered, little boy. Tell me what it is you want most of all, so that I may give it to you." Though very frightened, he told her, "most of all I would like to be helpful to other people, especially children." Upon that the woman vanished.

The next day in school Edgar couldn't master his spelling words. His brother Lucian, the school teacher, felt that the boy needed more drilling, so he tutored him that evening at home. Still Edgar couldn't spell the words. When boy said he was tired and laid his head on the spelling book, Lucian went into the kitchen to get a drink of water. Edgar fell asleep and heard the voice from the day before saying, "Sleep and we will help you." When Lucian returned, the boy had slept several minutes. He then woke Edgar up and immediately tested him on the words. To Lucian's surprise Edgar knew those words perfectly as well as any words anywhere in the book. Edgar then began to tell Lucian which words were on which pages and even what pictures corresponded to what page numbers. Apparently the female "angel" (unheard of in the Bible) was a deceiver from the evil realm and had given him the occultic ability called "remote viewing."

These events and the things that followed them clearly suggest that Edgar Cayce had inherited through his family demonic spiritual powers and occultic tendencies. Now we will focus on the young man's development into a psychic, or more accurately, a spiritualistic healer.

The Development of a Spiritualistic Healer
Edgar Cayce's involvement in healing was just as strange as the other events in his life. It began at school when he was struck from behind with a baseball. He acted unusual the rest of the school day and in the evening when he returned home. When he went to bed he asked his parents to make a poultice of corn meal, onions, and herbs. They thought it extraordinary but did as he asked and applied the poultice to the back of his head as per his instructions. When he woke the next morning he was back to normal but remembered nothing that had happened since being struck by the baseball. His family was amazed. This was the beginning of his cures--the first one on himself!

The second stage in his healing journey also included self diagnosis. It happened after he developed a throat problem which prevented his speaking above a whisper. The condition persisted for some months and nothing was able to help. Finally, "Dr." Al Layne, a local correspondence-school trained hypnotist and osteopath, convinced Cayce to let him try to help. Cayce stretched out and put himself to sleep. Then Layne suggested to the unconscious Cayce that he look into his own body and discover the source of the problem. He did and soon replied that the throat muscles were paralyzed and recommended increasing the circulation of blood into the area by mental suggestion. Layne took the cue and made the hypnotic suggestion. Soon afterward Cayce's throat turned bright red. After about 15 minutes, the throat area returned to the normal pink color. He then woke up and spoke clearly for the first time in months.

The next day Cayce put himself to sleep and analyzed Dr. Layne's stomach problems. Cayce's diagnosis corresponded exactly with what various doctors had told Layne, but his recommended treatments were quite different. Once awake Cayce was as amazed as Layne because he had never heard of the medicines he had prescribed in his sleep nor could he even pronounce some of the medical terms he had rattled off in his trance. This is all the more amazing since Cayce had only an elementary school education. None of this mattered to Layne who said that if these recommendations worked, their fortunes were made!

They did work, but Cayce never made his fortune. He started giving these "health readings" regularly in 1901. In the beginning he worked as the healer for Dr. Layne. Layne would look into a medical need, get the facts on a case, and give these details to Cayce. Then he would put himself under and speak the diagnosis to Layne who recorded it. Layne would then present the "prescription" or recommended treatment to the patient as his own. But word got out as to what was going on, and Cayce's fame spread. As it did, the people and the questions came in from further and further away. Cayce was "well packaged," to use a modern concept. Many who would ordinarily never have considered visiting a psychic and would have labeled such powers "of the Devil" were lulled into a false sense of complacency by Cayce's gentle demeanor, lifelong church involvement, and daily Bible reading. In truth, he was ultimately far more dangerous than he appeared.

The Healer's Fame Spreads
Cayce began his readings in 1901. Two years later, after a six- year courtship, he married his sweetheart, Gertrude Evans. She was very supportive of the "work," as they called the readings. They were usually not paid for the readings and were often on the verge of poverty. Living that way wasn't easy, but because they both believed that the readings were God's special calling for Edgar--his life's work--they persisted. They were gratified by the fact that people were clearly being healed physically--usually people that other methods and medical authorities had been unable to help. Though Cayce held several different jobs to provide for his family, photography served as his principal financial resource. He returned to it again and again.

At this point we need to examine more closely Cayce's health readings. His usual method was to put himself to sleep and have someone read to him the name and address of the person needing a reading. He did not need to have the person present; even if he or she were hundreds, or even thousands, of miles away, he could "find" the person. Shortly after putting himself "under" and being told the name and address of the person needing the reading, the sleeping Cayce would say, "We have the entity" as if looking directly at the person in question. Notice the word we; it hints at the presence of a spirit or spirits. His inner sight was apparently better than scopes, x-rays, or cat scans because not only did he visually observe the problem, but he also "received" the desired course of treatment. While still "sleeping," he then described the medical or psychological problem to whoever was assisting him and gave recommendations for healing.

Cayce was able to help eye problems, injuries that led to complications, cancer, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, arthritis, gall stones, kidney stones, hay fever, mental and psychological problems, digestive problems, epilepsy, hemorrhoids, ulcers, psoriasis, and countless other conditions. His remedies usually involved one or more of the following: natural foods, physical massage, various oil rubs, chiropractic adjustments, ointments of various kinds, medicines that were common, or those that were rare, in disuse, or forgotten. Sometimes the treatments were very messy, inconvenient, and time consuming, but Cayce's followers maintained that his healing average was close to 90% for those who persisted in following his advice.

 

He frequently described how to make certain medicines and poultices and once was even able to "find" in his mind's eye a certain medicine high on a drugstore shelf behind other bottles. This was in another state! He could "see it" and was able to explain to others how to find it. This practice is sometimes called "remote viewing" and is related to astral projection or soul travel. Though such "viewing" episodes occasionally occur naturally (because of stress or sickness), they are usually associated with occultism. This ability gives even more concreteness to the term seer than we usually think of. It also reveals a definite linkage with his ability to see and read (with covers closed) whole pages in his school books following his vision of the shining lady with wings at age thirteen.

From 1901 to 1922 Edgar Cayce's readings were aimed almost exclusively at finding medical answers for hurting people. Though his motives were admirable, his methods were suspect biblically. There is an uncomfortable similarity here to what mediums and channelers do--practices expressly forbidden in Scripture (Lev. 19:31). In spite of his biblical knowledge, he was not sensitive enough to the parallels between what he was doing and occultic practices. Perhaps he was so enamored by the healings and so thrilled by the attention and admiration that he was unwilling to question seriously the source of his power early in his career. This failing, seemingly innocuous at the beginning of his health readings, became very critical when he began the "life readings" a much more blatant and dangerous spiritual threat.

The Life Readings
Cayce's biographers generally attribute his healing powers to an ability to tap into what they called the "Universal Mind" or "Universal Consciousness." However, the alert Christian who knows the Bible, and something of the spiritual realm, can easily pick up from Edgar Cayce's biographies another explanation of his powers--evidences of demonic activity in his life. It was probably more difficult for Cayce himself to see these clues. Nevertheless, Cayce was aware enough to be concerned at times about the spiritual source of all of these powers and strange events, and he occasionally expressed these concerns. Usually, however, he expressed these concerns within his family and was always assured that everything was okay.

Up until 1923 there were two sides to Cayce. There was the Cayce who was orthodox: a church going, Bible reading, Sunday school teaching man who would have steadfastly defended Christ as the unique Son of God, the Bible as the Word of God, the reality of heaven and hell, and so on. Then there was the Cayce who had a family heritage of psychic abilities, a person who saw visions, heard voices, and who performed trance-style medical readings that looked suspiciously like what mediums do.

Somehow all these disparate beliefs were held together in one person until Cayce did his first "life reading" in 1923. For 22 years his readings had been almost exclusively devoted to medical or health issues. But after Arthur Lammers asked Cayce to do a reading for him in 1923 things changed. What Lammers did was probe the sleeping Cayce about astrology, mysticism, reincarnation, yoga, alchemy, theosophy, the cabala, the mystery religions, previous lives, and many other things related to the occult. When the reading was over and Cayce was able to read the answers he had given to the questions put to him by Lammers, he was amazed and frightened. These new readings supported all sorts of occultic beliefs. Cayce said to Lammers:

But what you've been telling me today, and what the readings have been saying, is foreign to all I've believed and been taught, and all I've taught others, all of my life. If ever the Devil was going to play a trick on me, this would be it.

Cayce was deeply concerned about all this and especially about reincarnation. His instincts, trained by years of reading the Bible through, resisted. "But instead of following this intuition, Cayce accepted Lammer's explanations on reincarnation and other matters and turned away from a literal interpretation of the Bible. Cayce's faith in the readings completed the transition." He believed so strongly in the truth of the health readings, that he reasoned (falsely) the new information from what he called "life readings" must also be true.

Lammers was able to convince Cayce that reincarnation was compatible with the Bible, and soon Cayce had swallowed it all. Once Cayce embraced reincarnation, he accepted many other occultic beliefs. In fact, reincarnation became so central to what Cayce came to hold that his whole belief system would totally crumble if reincarnation were proven to be false. Like most cultists and occultists, Cayce came to believe that Jesus was not the unique Son of God. He also claimed that Jesus was reincarnated 30 times before He became "the Christ."

An Evaluation of Edgar Cayce and His Legacy
Readings
Cayce did over 16,000 readings between 1901 and his death in 1945. The first 22 years were almost exclusively given over to health readings. After 1923 he added life readings, or perhaps more accurately, "past lives readings," and came to accept reincarnation and many occultic beliefs.

Evaluation: Cayce was a very effective healer and helped many people physically. We must ask, however, how many Christians and non-Christians paid a price spiritually for their spiritualistic healing and how many non-Christians never came to saving faith because of Cayce's influence.

 

Prophecies
There is not been enough time in this essay to deal with Cayce's prophecies such as California falling in the sea, New York sinking beneath the waves, and the lost continent of Atlantis rising out of the ocean, and so on.

Evaluation: That is just as well; Cayce was an abysmal failure as a prophet and a false prophet by biblical standards.

Personal: Deceived and Deceiving
Reading Cayce's biographies reveals that no one could have set a better trap for a sincere, but naive, young man. Satan gave Cayce enough rope to hang himself. In a statement intended to explain his dilemma, Cayce said: "The power was given to me without explanation. I've tried to discover what to do with it. It's been hit and miss, trial and error....it was just an odd trait that was useful in medicine.... That's what I always thought, and against this I put the idea that the Devil might be tempting me to do his work by operating through me when I was conceited enough to think God had given me special power".

Evaluation: But Cayce chose not to pursue this line of thought. Satan had to wait 22 years to turn Cayce into a unabashed promoter of the doctrines of demons and a rejector of Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God, but it was worth the wait. Fascination with Cayce has pulled many naive dabblers deep into occultism.

Association for Research and Enlightenment
The organization Cayce founded, the Association for Research and Enlightenment, or A.R.E., to house his readings and research medical cures, has become a hotbed for practically every occultic idea imaginable.

Evaluation: The A.R.E. and Cayce's life readings offer a theology that is basically a revised version of the mystery religions of ancient Egypt, Chaldea, Persia, India, and Greece with a hint of Christian flavoring for palatability. There is no way to estimate the spiritual darkness spread through the influence of the A.R.E.

Books and Biographies
Most people "get into" Cayce through reading books on the occult or prophecy or through reading biographies on Cayce.

Evaluation: We advise people not to read these works unless there is a real need to do so because they are very deceptive, dangerous, and have been spiritually harmful to many curiosity-seekers.

Conclusion
A passage from Those Curious New Cults captures the tragic legacy of this well-meaning but misguided man:

For a good portion of his life, Cayce was a commercial photographer. He understood very well the mechanics of his trade. A blank film is inserted, the shutter is snapped, and then the film is developed in the dark. The nature of a photograph, whether it is a formal family picture or pornography, depends not on the film but on the photographer who uses the camera. During his trances, Cayce's mind was like a blank film that would be developed in the dark. I believe that Cayce allowed his camera to get into the wrong hands.

What are your thoughts on this article?

Notes




1. Thomas Sugrue, There Is A River: The Story of Edgar Cayce (New York: Dell, a new Dell edition, 1961), 14.

2. Ibid., 38-39.

3. Jess Stern, Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet (New York: Bantam Books, 1968), 26-27.

4. Sugrue, 27.

5. Ibid., 23.

6. Stern, 27.

7. Sugrue, 23-24.

8. Edmond Gruss, Ouija Board, Doorway to the Occult, Presbyterian & Reformed Publishing Company, 1994.

9. Gruss, 181.

10. Sugrue, 210.

11. Ibid., 305.

12. William J. Peterson, Those Curious New Cults,Keats Publishing, 1982, p. 46.

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But another thing also. I think Discernment on phenomena should always be ongoing.

Take for instance Garabandal and Medugorje. I believe both to be true. But I have never hung up the guns, so to speak of discernment on these. I always check and recheck.

The only time I do hang up the guns of critique is when the Church gives its approval. Till then, we must be a like a trusty old watch dog, always on guard.

 

Do you all think John left because of the critique or because he realized by defending his position with passion he is letting his human, worldly mind get in the way of the task at hand that he should be focusing on. I don't know what I would do if I had God's work to do right now in the sense of a being a prophet. I do know what I would pray for though. I would pray that God keeps me out of it and helps me to focus on relaying His information because it is not about me and my defense it about the message that needs to be delivered. I am not as well versed on the lives of the prophets in from the OT but I am sure they took much criticism but I wonder if they defended that criticism or just continued to reveal God's message. Jesus clearly told his disciples to just teach the word and if it was met with uncharitable critique then they were to dust off the shoes of their sandals and move on. It is not John's responsibility to defend in my mind. His background and actions will speak for that. John's job is to merely relay what Jesus and Mary have told him to relay and it is up for us to discern and up to Jesus and Mary in time to let us know if John is valid or not.

 

It makes me sad that "uncharitable critique" is so common on this forum. Linda, of "God's messages to us" was met with a similar response. She also insisted that she wasn't called to defend herself or the messages, but forum members kept trying to get her to do just that. She managed to remain gracious, but couldn't stay on the forum either. We are all human. If you want to pick a fight with a Hispanic male, just imply disrespect to his mother, and see what happens. He'll fight a buzz saw for her!

Something else I noticed - the harshest response came from those who took offense at the message that sin would not exist in the refuges. While it's true that the just man sins seven times a day, true consecration to the Blessed Mother and acceptance of willful sin in our lives just won't mix. (Willful sin = I know it's a sin, and I'm going to do it any way, even in "small" matters). I urge anyone who was offended by the idea of living without sin to take the matter to prayer. Attachment to sin, especially in these dark days, attracts the enemy like a magnet. Pray for a horror of sin - without it, I'm afraid we'll be toast in this spiritual battle.

 

I am sorry but

I did not see the "uncharitible critique" i saw very strong and reasonable statements to a thread on a forum. Some of the posts by John supporters took the extreme position of saying he was only human. Since he had "invested interest" in the message, he had right to get mad. Even comparing him to Jesus in the temple. Jesus threw the tables because He was mad at SIN and SINFUL acts. Non of the threads were sinful, John Servant of God got mad and talked down to very real concerns. Even though his thread might be entertaining, we need to be very cautious to self-proclaimed messengers. Especially ones that Seem to put themselves in and above the message. John could have easily added message to forum and not attracted so much attention to himself. But that was not the case. I am sorry if i offended anyone, but declaring yourself a messenger opens one up to both positive and negative discussion. If anyone was out of line, i am sure he/she would be banned from discussion. Sometimes the truth hurts, maybe we can all learn from this experience.

May Gods Will be done

 

Fallen Saint, I think you misinterpreted what I was saying about anger. I was not comparing John to Jesus at all but was saying that not all anger is sin. Some anger is righteous or some is human. In John's case I felt it was human anger being attached to his mission whether that interest is right or wrong. I am still on the fence about John but do like to look at all angles of debate on an issue. Saying one is invalid because he was defending his mission does not make what is happening to him invalid is all I am saying. His reaction is a human one.

 

I didn't follow all the discussion re John's alleged message, but when I read the Pope's speech yesterday I found his last line very difficult:

“This meekness and humility of heart helps us not only to take the weight of the other, but also to not impose upon them our own personal views, our judgments and our criticism.”
Pope Francis, Angelus, July 6, 2014

I have to reflect on it, and I think it is pertinent to the current discussion.

It seems such an antithesis to the way I think I should act if I am to try to win souls, or the way I am inclined to act in many situations.
But it does make me think of Mother Teresa of Calcutta... but I ain't no Mother Teresa!
(Full text here http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/pope-s-angelus-be-of-solace-and-comfort-to-poor-and-marginalized)

 

So here is my two cents worth (and that's probably ALL it's worth ) on refuges. When I had the apparition in 1997, I was told by Jesus to stay in my house. I ASSUMED it had something to do with my husband at the time. Now here we are years later and I want to move but am held back by His words to me so long ago. I have been praying a lot for discernment because for a lot of years now I've just had the feeling that Jesus has made my house some sort of refuge for me for the times to come. I don't think this strong feeling has been influenced by anyone else's messages. I did make an offer on a different house a few months ago, and felt VERY uneasy when I did it. It was rejected and I left it at that. I felt very peaceful about losing the offer and just staying put. I do NOT want to become attached to any worldly thing, even my property, so I am trying to really do God's will in this. I believe that anyone who is a disciple of Jesus during the big events will be taken care of where ever they are. His Will will be done in their lives no matter what. I'm not saying I don't believe in all these messages about refuges, but I'm saying that if I am to go somewhere, my guardian angel will take me there. I believe that with all of you too, so just pray and be careful about running to a certain location because of fear. Fear should never motivate a Christian to make such big moves in their lives in my humble opinion.

 

I come from a rural farming background in Ireland. There is a tradition of certain families having a 'cure' for specific illness in humans and in livestock. I always considered it to be a giftedness that was outside my realm of understanding. The individuals seemed genuine, there was no significant financial benefit from the 'gift'.
It is only very recently that the thought crossed my mind that these ancient 'gifts' could be considered 'New Age' or have some less than desirable source.
When I read Cayce's story it made me very sad that someone so young. with such good intentions could fall so easily into the service of the dark side.
There but for the grace of God go I.