Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The world is at risk of Armageddon on account of a Christian heresy.
     
  2. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    I’m here playing devils advocate on this subject. What if Israel just blows up the sights where the Iranians are allegedly starting nuclear weapons? Would that not be a positive for humanity? Imagine Iran having nuclear capabilities?
     
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  3. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    A lot of your questions are steeped in hypotheticals, which are impossible to know the outcome of. However if Israel does blow up the nuclear sites, it is possible that Iran may just use a nuclear weapon on Israel. On October 5th a seismic event happened in Iran that had the signature of an underground nuclear weapon going off. I do not believe this was a coincidence, but was a warning. As well, it will further increase the rifts between the west and other nations with nuclear weapons, essentially the outcome will not strictly affect only Iran and Israel

    I don't see any escalation of violence as a positive for humanity. Especially in these times where tensions are heightened and geo-political alliances are formed. Some nations have nuclear weapons that the west would rather they did not. IE, Russia, China, North Korea and Pakistan. Of which, Iran has several alliances in place. Iran having nuclear weapons does not seem to me to be a large game changer for anyone but Israel. Mainly because Iran has supported peoples in the region against Israeli aggression, so Iran having a nuclear weapons would be a large impediment to Israeli expansion.

    It may be that those who govern Israel believe that if they do not act now, Israel will cease to exist as a nation. A kind of paranoia possibly. However their actions in the region are what primarily generate hostilities towards them. Prior to the existence of Israel, Muslims and Jews coexisted in Palestine much more peacefully than today.

     
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  4. Mario

    Mario Powers

    War drums have been beating for years now. What a sad and dangerous situation in Ukraine, for instance. We just sent a crumbling government in Kiev advanced weaponry and within a week Russia demolishes it in an attack utilizing supersonic weaponry. The White House and the buffoons in Congress are blinded by their warmongering!

    We, the blinded, are now standing on the precipice and Israel is about leap off the cliff with us.

    May the Lord have Mercy on us yet!
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Only one country with nuclear capability has actually used them.
     
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  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Harry S Truman gave the order. And he is accountable before God for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent lives wiped out in the blink of an eye and also for the untold misery inflicted on the injured.
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You are right. He was a Mason.
     
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  8. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I do not take away or diminish his culpability; he ordered the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki! But now that we have witnessed the destructive power of these weapons and hold out their usefulness in modern warfare, we are more blinded by the Evil One than he. Lord have Mercy and pour out that Mercy upon us before we insanely choose to use them for an initial strike or in retaliation, for such disastrous consequences would far exceed of what Truman was guilty.

    The warped minds of those who have butchered millions upon millions of innocent babes through abortion are capable of any insanity!:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:...

    Lord have mercy on me if I share in the least way in the use of hydrogen bombs.:(
     
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  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Mother Teresa

    The fruit of abortion is nuclear war
     
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  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I read today that the Israeli Finance Minister wants Israel to conquer Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt. This is the most extreme kind of megalomania. Is it that the Zionists' principle lesson from the Holocaust is the Nazi concept of Lebensraum, even as increasing numbers of Israeli citizens are reported leaving the country?

    As for the prospect of nuclear war, Man chose to eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge and must take responsibility for the consequences, which include industrialised baby-murder and the ability to self-annihilate. That's why The Lord didn't take the Fall lightly. May He have Mercy on us all.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    And Hiroshima and Nagasaki the most Catholic cities in Japan.
     
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  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Good insight
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    We're all living, and dying, beneath a war in a higher world, between Powers and Principalities. Is it not plausible that the primary target of those spirits on the side of evil is the Body of Christ Himself and that this is the central focus of history?
     
  14. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Jews often accuse others of what they themselves do. If Iran had a nuclear weapon, absolutely nothing would happen except that the West and Israel would be more cautious in attacking Iran.


    "In September 2002, Netanyahu testified before the US Congress about Iraq’s nuclear weapons program.

    “There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking, is working, is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu said. “Once Saddam has nuclear weapons, the terror network will have nuclear weapons.”

    Amos Gilad: Netanyahu’s statements directly contradicted the findings that my Israeli colleagues and I had reached—findings that were shared by the International Atomic Energy Agency, responsible for overseeing the dismantling of Iraq’s nuclear program—that the Iraqi nuclear program had been eliminated, and that there was no evidence of its reconstitution.

    But Netanyahu’s job wasn’t to tell the truth about Iraq’s nuclear program, but rather use the fear generated by the specter of an Iraqi nuclear weapon to justify a war with Iraq that would remove Saddam Husein from power. “If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region,” Netanyahu told his receptive congressional audience.

    In Iraq, around a million Iraqis were killed, several thousand Americans, nuclear weapons were never found, nor any program, Saddam was executed by hanging in the U.S. as a foreign president, Bush was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, and Israel got rid of one enemy, while Jewish journalists and advisors played a leading role as advisors and journalists to Bush."

    On the other hand, I believe you have never heard of the Israel Samson doctrine...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


    n 2003, a Israel military historian, Martin van Creveld, thought that the Second Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[35] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying:

    We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[36]
     
  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Note the singling out of Rome. They murdered their True Messiah and their subsequent futile Messianism is so intoxicated with Pride that they cannot contemplate any obstruction of their ambitions.
     
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  16. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    Oh my goodness I never thought that Israel had the power to wipe out European capitals. That’s insane.
     
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  17. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Not just your countrymen. Probably the vast majority of us are guilty of the love of money to some degree. Maybe the degree of love varies with the amount of money we have. The rest of the world can see the horror being inflicted by the US/Israel alliance (with help from Britain and Germany) but sits back as the genocide continues unabated in Palestine and the destruction spreads to neighbouring countries,

    Our countries don't fear military aggression from the US. They fear economic reprisals. What's that if not a type of love of money? We all claim to be America's friend. Fearing to speak truth to power is not true friendship. Rather, it signifies a master-vassal relationship,

    Apart from the Yemenis, the whole world shares some guilt for what's happening to the Palestinians. There are thousands of Russians in the IDF and about a million Russian settlers. What has Putin done to rein in those Russian Israelis other than advising them to leave Israel? If he cared about the Palestinians he would set up a mechanism whereby IDF members returning to Russia would face war crime investigations and settlers would be required to show that they hadn't been living in occupied territory. And Palestine's Muslim neighbours are the worst of all. Imagine being a Palestinian Muslim facing extinction and seeing your fellow Muslim neighbours betray you over and over again. God help them, and may God forgive us.
     
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  18. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I saw a good comment:

    This is the ultimate form of paganism. The worship of oneself. Once a person adopts Zionism, they believe in their people, themselves, their power, and their fate as it has been written by their ancestors. If that is not paganism in this world, this world is blind.

    They want a Messiah who will serve their desires. They want dominance and power, they don't want to serve.

    I feel sorry when I see that many Christians reject the teachings of Jesus and the laws of God to serve the Jewish interpretation and political ideology that rejected the teachings of Jesus even when he walked here on Earth and crucified him for the same.

    Protestants, as well as a good number of Catholics, function in relation to Israel as the Russian Orthodox Church or any national Church according to their state. It is completely subject to ideology, and it adapts God's norms and laws to ideology, and not to what church doctrine and God's rules say. If it suits them, good becomes bad, and bad becomes good. They are blind to any flaws and mistakes, they will not criticize anything that does not help them achieve their final outcome, and they interpret God's will according to that outcome that has already been mapped out for them.

    It all boils down to that saying...
    You cannot serve God and people.

    That is why the Catholic Church is the only correct one because the foundation is always Christ and his teaching.
     
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  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    And they never admit officially to having nukes. Or, to be more accurate the US never officially acknowledges that Israel has nukes because there's some law in the US that prohibits them giving military aid to countries possessing nuclear weapons in breach of an arms limitation pact reached before Israel acquired nukes. It's all a shell game to those who have easy access to well equipped nuclear shelters. The rest of us fall into the collateral damage category.
     
  20. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    So, then Israel doesn’t need the U.S. They can launch whatever they want to wherever they want? I don’t know who to fear more.
     

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