Pope says he wants to meet Putin

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  1. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Thanks, FP; now I don't feel nearly as guilty; besides, I'm an older old dog than you, anyway!:LOL:
     
  2. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    I'm sure you know but always good for those that don't know and may have scruples that unconfessed mortal sins are forgiven if not deliberately concealed in sacramental confession. Of course when remembered it is best to bring them to confession especially from the psychological point of view.
     
  3. Indy

    Indy Praying

    I do notice more people these days staying after mass to pray and its always a great thing to see and do. But since the lockdowns the people have not returned to mass in any decent numbers, there seems to be less than before. Maybe the thread of nukes will awaken their repressed faith.
     
  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    my concern also involves the aspects of the communist tribulation that the seers of Garanbadal saw on the night of the screams; it seems possible to me that millions of people will die in a matter of weeks, months and many of them with a path to hell.
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Such a good Catholic Family.

    If someone were to tell me they were planning a barbecue, I would tell them not to count on it too much, things are so uncertain.

    I think the best attitude at the moment is to place ourselves totally in the hand of God and to beg the Holy Spirit to guide us .

    I was hoping to go to Italy now in two and a half years.

    But who knows? Who knows if there even be an Italy?

    How uncertain life is, especially at present.
     
  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It depresses me so much to see them still wearing masks .

    Unbelievers have stopped wearing them and given up on fear .

    It is so sad to see people who believe in heaven so afraid to go there
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The way things are in the world at the moment reminds me of the prayer we were taught as children .

    '.. if I die before I wake, I pray that God my soul will take '
     
  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Nowadays everyone is convinced that they will live forever.
     
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  9. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    What is so strange and confusing to me. Pope Francis has spoken in such a way to the Russian Orthodox leadership he has been cautioned it could cause problems between the Churches. Pope Francis is alleged to have said the Orthodox Church are acting like altar boys for Putin.

    On the other hand it appears the Vatican has done secret deals with the Chinese effectively throwing the Church in China under the bus. So why would the Vatican act like altar boys for the Chinese, and accuse the Russian Orthodox of acting like altar boys for the Kremlin.

    Does it sound to anyone else like a bit of the kettle calling the pot black, or am I missing something.

    And it appears Putin has ignored the Vatican attempts at contacting the Kremlin to arrange a meeting. Keep Watch and Pray.
     
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  10. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    So the seating stones weigh almost a ton each. So no, ma’am

    but by God’s providence and perfect timing...Carlos, the guy I called to do the work as he’s done a lot of stonework for us around the ranch happens to be a Catholic and has never built a grotto before and boy did he love doing it as did his workers, who also are all Catholic

    But I did plant the flowers and the rosebushes all around it, which you can’t see in that pic but are almost ready to bloom #MonthofMary
     
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  11. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    my dad, an ND grad in the ‘40s, made me take 7 years of Latin in junior and high school. And I still can’t conjugate a verb
     
  12. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    I am certain Our Lady will instruct her Son to have you in the perfect place where you can help the most souls to heaven. I am awed at your fiat to follow their will. God bless, brother
     
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  13. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-says-no-agreement-reached-103613329.html

    Russian Orthodox Church scolds Pope Francis after 'Putin's altar boy' remark
    Wed, May 4, 2022, 6:36 AM

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin meets Pope Francis at the Vatican


    By Guy Faulconbridge

    LONDON (Reuters) -The Russian Orthodox Church scolded Pope Francis on Wednesday for using the wrong tone after he urged Patriarch Kirill not to become the Kremlin's "altar boy", cautioning the Vatican that such remarks would hurt dialogue between the churches.

    Francis told Italy's Corriere Della Sera newspaper that Kirill, who has given the Ukraine war his backing, "cannot become [President Vladimir] Putin's altar boy".

    The Russian Orthodox Church said it was regrettable that a month and a half after Francis and Kirill, the patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, had spoken directly, the pope had adopted such a tone.

    "Pope Francis chose an incorrect tone to convey the content of this conversation," the Moscow Patriarchy said, though it did not explicitly mention the "altar boy" comment.

    "Such statements are unlikely to contribute to the establishment of a constructive dialogue between the Roman Catholic and Russian Orthodox Churches, which is especially necessary at the present time."

    Kirill, 75, a close ally of Putin, sees the war as a bulwark against a West he considers decadent, particularly over the acceptance of homosexuality.

    The Russian Orthodox Church is by far the biggest of the churches in the Eastern Orthodox communion, which split with Western Christianity in the Great Schism of 1054. Today it has about 100 million followers within Russia and more outside.

    Ukraine has about 30 million Orthodox believers, divided between the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate and two other Orthodox Churches, one of which is the autocephalous, or self-governing, Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

    Francis, 85, has asked for a meeting in Moscow with Putin about Ukraine but the Kremlin said on Wednesday there was no agreement on this.

    Russia and the West frame the conflict in Ukraine very differently.

    Moscow calls its actions a "special military operation" to disarm Ukraine and protect it from fascists. Kyiv and its Western backers say the fascism claim is absurd and say Russia is waging an unprovoked war that threatens Ukraine's continued existence as a sovereign, democratic state.

    The Moscow Patriarchy quoted Kirill as telling Pope Francis on March 16 that the Western media had failed to accurately report the situation in Ukraine - a frequent Russian complaint.

    'DIVIDED FLOCK'

    Kirill said the conflict in Ukraine had begun in 2014 when protests toppled a pro-Russian president. Kirill noted what he said was the persecution of Russian speakers in Ukraine's port city of Odesa. Ukraine denies any such persecution.

    But Kirill also expressed sorrow over the conflict.

    "Of course, this situation is associated with great pain for me. My flock is on both sides of the confrontation, they are mostly Orthodox people," the Patriarchy quoted him as saying.

    "How can we foster the pacification of those fighting with the single goal of achieving the consolidation of peace and justice?"

    Putin has also cited NATO enlargement to Russia's borders as a reason for the conflict in Ukraine despite what he says were assurances given as the Soviet Union collapsed that the alliance would not expand - an issue Kirill touched on.

    "Patriarch Kirill further recalled that at the end of the Soviet era, Russia received an assurance that NATO would not move one inch in the eastern direction," the Moscow Patriarchy said. "However, this promise was broken."

    The United States and NATO deny such assurances were given but say countries are free to apply to join an alliance they say is purely defensive and poses no threat to Russia.

    (Reporting by ReutersEditing by Gareth Jones)
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    From the psychological point of view, the scrupulous are often advised not to dwell excessively on past sins. This is particularly important for converts and for people who might not have been to confession for decades, human memory being far from perfect.
     
  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    You'd think one can only die of COVID.
     
  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    In good company-with St. Augustine!
     
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  17. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    FatimaPilgrim, That really looks amazing! So beautiful!!!
     
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  18. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Does this lay the groundwork for the prophetic invasion of Europe to also look like a holy war between the Russian Orthodox Church and Catholicism?
     
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  19. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    BrianK, This is such a roller coaster ride. One moment it seems like the pope is helping and then he is making things worse. Yikes!
     
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  20. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I never had that impression.
     
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