There will never be an investigation. It is what it is. We just need to focus on prayer, 5 first Saturday’s of the month, Confession, and the Eucharist. Try to get involved in our local governments, and surround ourselves with good people. God will protect us.
I never trusted Archbishop Vigano because he broke the Sacred Papal Oath of Secrecy. That for me was a big, no, no,.
It must be very hard once you say something on the likes of utube in front of thousands and thousands of people and then to have to apologise and recant. When you broadcast you may in some sense be burning your bridges behind you. An awful thing.
Yes, that set off an alarm bell for me. I'm also not impressed that it has taken him eight years to raise questions about whether Pope Francis is a valid Pope. Archbishop Vigano must be aware that Pooe Francis has been very careful to not officially teach heresy. Permitting the spread of heresy doesn't make him a heretic. As to the shenanigans surrounding his ascent to the papacy, if he is guilty of wrongdoing he didn't break new ground. There probably won't be an investigation but I believe there should although not a sensational public investigation. If Bishops and possibly influential members of the Jesuits conspired with outside actors to shorten the tenure of a reigning Pope with a view to replacing him with someone of their choice, the Church needs to find out how it happened to prevent a recurrence. Calling for an investigation now is pointless because it would require the Pope investigating himself and his friends but there's nothing to prevent a future Pope looking into it. That it's not our place to seek an investigation doesn't rule it out. I agree with you that our role is Sacraments, prayer, the First Saturdays, corporal works of mercy, etc. I don't know what you mean by getting involved in local governments but we should help our parish in any way we can.
It’s important to bring a sense of sanity back into our own communities. Getting involved in our school boards is a good start.
Let’s wait and see what happens with the German synod and how Pope Francis reacts. So far there is silence from him. I believe Vigano is setting the stage. Preparing us for what’s coming. The abomination desolation in Daniel’s may be just around the corner.
Absolutely…because the leftist start at this level politically! I know it for a fact. Your school boards direct your children’s education…it’s no small thing. The leftist indoctrination starts right there. They will infect your children…they have been. When no one thought these board positions were of value, the left took control. It’s time to fight to regain control over your children and grandchildren’s education. You lose this…you lose! I don’t care how smart your kids are.
Homoerotic singer to entertain teens on Easter Monday in the Vatican https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/soft-porn-star-to-sing-in-st-peters-square
For Catholics ‘Concerned’ About Germany, What’s Happening in Bätzing’s Limburg Offers a Case in Point The website of the Diocese of Limburg published a report on the panel discussion ‘Out in Church,’ without criticizing it or clarifying Church teaching. Limburg’s Bishop Georg Bätzing poses for photos after he was elected leader of the German Bishops’ Conference on March 3, 2020, during an episcopal gathering in Mainz, western Germany. (Photo: Torsten Silz) Edward Pentin BlogsApril 13, 2022 FRANKFURT, Germany — “The focus is too much on homosexual men!” said Eric Tilch at a panel discussion in Frankfurt last Wednesday hosted by the Diocese of Limburg — the bishopric headed by Bishop Georg Bätzing, president of the German Catholic bishops’ conference. But Tilch, a Church youth education officer, wasn’t protesting against the homosexual agenda or seeking to uphold the Church’s teaching on marriage and the family. Rather he was proposing the Church accept “other forms of love that are still in the dark,” according to an article on the panel posted on the diocesan website. “I worry that the Church is too attached to a family photograph from the 1950s, i.e., father, mother, child,” said Tilch. “There is so much more than that, for example hybrid families, changing relationships, polyamorous love [multiple sexual partners].” He also wanted transsexual and intersexual people to be given more attention in public discussions. The panel discussion was called “Out in Church” after a recent initiative of the same name in which 125 homosexual priests and employees of the Catholic Church in Germany called for more LGBT rights in the Church and complained about discrimination and other experiences in the Church. The initiative was made public Jan. 24 in a documentary, also called Out in Church, broadcast on ARD, one of Germany’s main television channels. Tilch was one of the employees who appeared in the documentary, along with another panel member, Stefan Diefenbach, a former religious, now civilly married to another man. Also speaking on the panel were lesbian couple Bettina Offer and Gabriele Mastmann, both lawyers and active in a Limburg parish; Petra Weitzel, who sits on the board of the German Society for Trans-identity and Intersexuality and professor Livia Prüll, a biological male transsexual. Their comments oppose both the Church’s moral teaching and Christian anthropology, and yet were published without criticism or correction on the website of the Limburg Diocese. In an article written by staff writer Anne Zegelman, headlined “The Church Should Lead With the Rainbow Flag,” Zegelman wrote that Out in Church was “well received” and that since its airing, the Diocese of Limburg had ruled that its regulations connected to the sexual preference and marital status of employees “no longer apply.” She also wrote that since Feb. 18, the diocese had instructed that employees of the same sex can civilly “marry” without sanction. Radical Demands All the panel’s speakers said much had happened since the documentary aired, but they wanted more changes. Diefenbach called for revisions to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, while acknowledging that such a goal would be a challenge. Weitzel asked that children of kindergarten age be “taken seriously if they make it clear early on that their feelings don’t match their biological sex.” She also argued that “intersex children” — those who claim to be born with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit definitions of male and female — should still be baptized. Since 2021, doctors have been banned from performing corrective surgery on children born without a clear sex, even if their parents wanted it. Weitzel said she wants such children to grow up without a clear gender so they could later “express themselves.” Diefenbach said he wished the Vatican would not “shoot itself in the foot” and “once again make authoritarian decisions, but instead remain in dialogue with everyone and realize there is no one truth.” Offer agreed, saying the Church must “finally understand” that, look at what the “designer who calls himself God” has created, and integrate all “colorful things.” “I actually expect my Church to grab the rainbow flag and lead the way instead of lagging behind!” Offer said. Her lawyer “wife,” Gabriele Mastmann, argued that more needs to be done so all Church employees can have legal security. Tilch did not want to stop there and demanded that the Church not only speak more openly about sexual preference, but also about sexuality in general — “even if this means putting up with someone deciding against a traditional, stable partnership.” Responding to the panel discussion, Mathias von Gersdorff, head of the German section of the Society for the Protection of Tradition, Family and Property, said he was not surprised by the panel’s comments, as he believed the German Synodal Path would inevitably open a Pandora’s box of wild propositions and demands. Moving Away From Truth “It’s actually no wonder that increasingly radical demands are coming from grassroots, left-wing Catholics, such as recognition of polyamorous partnerships or alternating couples,” von Gersdorff told the Register. “If you move away from the truth, one enters a process that becomes ever more radicalized.” He referred to a recent interview the former head of the German bishops, Cardinal Reinhard Marx, gave Stern magazine in which he said the Church should approve of homosexual acts. “If ‘love’ is just a hardly definable ethical criterion, there is no longer any boundary between a morally right relationship (i.e., the sacramentally-entered marriage) and all other forms of partnership. Any drawing of boundaries then becomes basically arbitrary.” Von Gersdorff, who has been active in the German pro-life movement since the 1990s, noted that some of the roots of these radical demands find themselves in the 2015 Synod on the Family when there was “already talk of irregular relationships, such as ‘remarried’ divorcees, but not only these.” “If ‘special rights’ are given to ‘remarried’ divorcees, as suggested in a footnote in Amoris Laetitia, why not to all other forms of partnership?” Von Gersdorff contended. “Sexual morality and the understanding of marriage are formed from a single entity. If one changes a small detail, it completely collapses.” The German Synodal Path, a multi-year process ostensibly aimed at reforming the Church after the sexual abuse crisis, but which critics say is being used to introduce secular morals into the Church, has in recent weeks led to public fraternal corrections of Germany’s bishops from their Polish and Nordic counterparts. The episcopal opposition stepped up a gear on Tuesday when more than 70 Catholic bishops followed suit, signing a “fraternal open letter” to Germany’s bishops and warning of disastrous consequences and possibly schism if the country’s synodal process continues along the same path. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ncregister.com/blog/out-in-church-limburg?amp
Perhaps Cardinal Burke is receiving a Great blessing from God in not being allowed in. The very last place I would want to be on Planet Earth is the Vatican. How horrible it must be. They will not be able to refuse the Russian soldiers when they come knocking to get them, as I believe they will shortly. The German Bishops too are in for a big, big surprise. They will have other things to worry about than heretical Synods.
This is truly a full blown chastisement that we are enduring. It is Paul's letter to the Romans writ large. When Paul warned that when corruption becomes so deep God basically turns them over to their sin and unnatural desires. It is exploding around us. Bad priests and hierarchy and a culture in complete meltdown. As Marys Child says "I have no words".
Luan, Not much about the German Bishop Georg Bätzing is Catholic imho, not is words or his dress in that picture. Instead of causing of schism, I think that he should consider becoming a preacher at a protestant church. https://www.ncregister.com/cna/germ...letter-warning-of-schism-risk-in-synodal-path I hope that I am not coming off rude but this how I see it. I'll be praying for his conversion back to the one true Faith.+ Edited to add: At least Cardinal Pell is speaking out about this... Cardinal Pell Calls on Vatican to Correct 2 Senior European Bishops for Rejecting Church’s Sexual Ethics Jesuit Cardinal Hollerich of Luxembourg and Bishop Bätzing of Limburg have both called for changes to the Church’s teaching on homosexuality in recent interviews. March 15, 2022 https://www.ncregister.com/blog/car...-bishops-for-rejecting-church-s-sexual-ethics
Carol, that is exactly what I was thinking. Why people come into the church and then try to change it into a Protestant church. Perhaps better for him to start new. Then make up the rules as he goes. God is the same for all of eternity. There is no reason to keep with the times. I too will be praying for a BIG conversion for all of the bishops that support this.
