thank you...that is very kind of you!! Some days my cross is easier to carry than others...and today was just a tough day.
Am Praying for you tonight Cathy. God has not left you an easy road to walk. But great cross, great crown. God has something very special in store for you.
A defense of MDM's messages even after she blatantly accuses the Pope as the false prophet. By Kelly Bowring the author of 'Secrets, Chastisement and Triumph of Two Hearts'. What do you think? http://twoheartspress.com/blog/concerning-maria-divine-mercy-pope-francis-and-the-false-prophet/
Krizevac, I wish you luck and pray for your success. However, speaking from experience, I will tell you that as soon as you start to show any opposition on the MDM facebook thread, you will be banned and not allowed to continue to post. They will accuse you of being hostile and that will be the end of you. However, you should try, like I did and I believe Jose did too a long while ago. And hope that you may at least open up the eyes of one or two of them before you are banned and your posts are deleted. Jane, the Church did declare Mary's birthday as 9 months after the immaculate Conception date, but Mary telling us that her birthday is actually a little different isn't necessarily going against the church. Nowhere in scripture are these dates actually recorded. Padraig, please correct me if I am wrong, but I have been told that it is not hereasy to believe that Mary's birthday is the date that was told to the visionaries in Medjugorje. I will say a prayer for you, Potatosack. This good friday (and Holy Thursday) has felt especially solomn for me this year. I wanted to weep at the Easter Vigil tonight, though it was a joyous time, we brought in 6 new Catholics and celebrated Christ's rising...still there was a sadness in me for Jesus and, well, it has not been a joyous Holy week overall. It has been a time for some deep reflection and consecrations, and for missing my family. Tomorrow will not be a lot brighter, this is a strange Easter for my household. We are not in a spirit of celebrating. However, He is risen! I'd love to hear from some happy joyous folks out there!
Fatima,peace be with you ,in year 1998 ,I was shown ,a number of visions which I drew ( made drawings of what I was shown in the visions ,and also i wrote about in great detail ,which accompanied the drawings ,) I described in full everything that occured , I will give you examples of two visions , the miracle of garabandal ,in 1998 when I was shown a preview of the miracle ,i had never heard of garabandal before , it was several months after having that vision ,that word got about ,and was mentioned by someone else , to an Italian man who I must add i had never met before or had even heard of his name before meeting him , this man although italian lived in england ,he telephoned me one day ( he had got my number off someone else who knew me , during the telephone conversation ,he introduced himself and told me his name ,and told me that he was italian ,he also told me ,that he travelled around from place to place promoting garabandal ,he also promoted padre pio ,he said ,he would like to visit me at my home ,to look at my drawings ,for he had been told that I had been receiving visions , and he knew that sister briege mc kenna had been in touch with me ,and of what she had said in the letter about me , in regards To the holy spirit playing a part of my daily life ,i agreed to meet the italian man (guiseppe ) at my home ,a couple of days before he was due to visit me ,i was given a vision of him ,what he looked like and how he was dressed , when he came to my home ,his car was about to turn the corner to come into my street ,our lady had made this known to me ,and I was waiting for him near my front door ,he parked his car alittle further up than where i live ,due to other cars parked in the street ,when he got out his car ,he saw me near my front door , I said to him ,hello guiseppe ,he said to me ,how did you know it was me ,i told him ,our lady had made it known to me that you were near ,quite close to my front door ,guiseppe said to me ,i have a number of pictures i want to show you about garabandal and also padre pio ,but before I get them out my car , guiseppe said ,I want to see your drawings norman ,he came into my home and sat down on a chair ,i showed him my drawings of the vision of a miracle i had witnessed in a vision , guiseppe ,took one look at them ,then closed his eyes shut ,he got up from the chair ,and told me ,youve been shown a preview of the great miracle to take place at garabandal ,that was the first time I had ever heard the word ,garabandal , before being shown the miracle ,I was shown a blind man with skin covering his eyes ,he was stood next to three women ,and everyone was stood near nine pine trees ,guiseppe after getting up from the chair went over to my front living room window and he looked up at the sky ,to his astonishment ,he witnessed the miracle of the sun ,from my window ,he had seen this miracle before ,but this was the first time in england that he had witnessed it ,guiseppe then went out to his car and fetched a huge folder into my house ,my drawings matched up to his photographs of garabandal and the person in the vision who I had recognised as the blind man in the vision i had ,I've described elsewhere in full on this forum in a previous post ,how the miracle takes place,its a bright light ,that comes down from the sky ,then goes through a gap between the mountains ,once coming through the gap ,the bright light turns right and heads for the pine trees ,if you stand in front of the pine trees ,the bright light stops above the cross which is already erected their now at the left hand side of the pines,once their ,the bright.light then changes into the eucharist ,joey lomangino is the very first person ti be cured ,when rays of light come from the eucharist and go straight to joey lomangino , i saw millions of other people covering all the mountains all around the village of garabandal ,all the people present are all cured also after joey , in 1998 , when guiseppe was at my home ,I told him only three women were present with the blindman ,guiseppe said to me ,but theirs 4 women visionaries alive today ,a few years ago ,mari lollie passed away,which now confirms to what I was shown in the vision then in year 1998 ,also may I bring to your attention ,a few years ago ,before mari lollie passed away ,i sent two emails ,one to joey lomangino , and the other to Mrs sarraco who also promotes garabandal ,and I told them in the emails ,I had witnessed a preview of the miracle , in regards medjugorje ,I was shown the permanant sign that will appear their , it will be a huge cross made out of flames ,and will appear their ,where our lady first appeared , I also know the month that it will appear their, but not the year ,if anyone as doubts ,note down what ive said in describing just two visions ,everything i have mentioned ,can all be checked up , but with regards those two visions ,its wait and see , I love our lady ,and most of all I work for our lady and also our lord , ="Fatima, post: 32103, member: 1138"]medjugorje norman, I am a person who is open to the possibility of others having gifts of the Holy Spirit. However, what you have said is nothing that anyone who has followed prophecy already knows on this forum. Not saying your words are not valid, but I have nothing to confirm at this time that you have indeed, or have not receive appartioins. All I know is that I have not read anything you have thus stated that has not been repeated many many other times and places. Will keep my heart open though for discenment.[/quote]
Was saddened to see that a priest has swallowed MDM messages and criticizes the Pope, even posts on her FB page. An Example of one of his own FB posts! https://www.facebook.com/frmariepaul
Hi Norman, I had not read your description of the sign in Medjugorje before...!!! Can you tell us the month since you know it?
You should write more on your visions Norman, I am so interested in them.I don't have a difficulty in the Sign being a Cross it seems so natural. I am curious, what does your Spiritual Director think of these? So few priests are open to such things. I will pray for you at mass this morning for protection.
I got a message from a false visionary the other day funny enough , one of the three Patrick's. You might recall I banned him off th forum pretty quick a while back. He also says this Pope and Pope Benedict were/are false and evil. His email was very critical of me. I am tempted to reply to coax him out of this stuff but I think in things like the Two Patrick's and MDM they are very,very, very far gone when they publish this stuff to be honest. But I must remember to pray for them all. They need prayers so badly. When you read the punishments reserved for False Prophets in the Bible it would turn your hair white. They may live, but they live under the huge wrath of God, He is very strict about such stuff.
His latest book " The Battle Has Begun" got some negative reviews simply because he quotes many of MDM 'prophecies'. http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Bat...iewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
Kelly's book did indeed get a lot of bad reviews...due to MDM. Glad I didn't buy this one...pray for Kelly Bowring. Miram thanks for sharing
I have never read a word on MDM, except what has been said on this site. I don't intend to either. I have no doubt that Pope Francis was validly elected our Pope. However, I will say this much. Kelly Bowring's article in the post above is interesting. A very thoughtful insight he provided. I have read closely Pedro Regis's messages and in them Our Lady keeps reminding us "that whatever happens do not loose faith" "our faith will be shaken to the core". I have often wondered what she meant by this. I assumed it was that war, natural disasters, Communism, or even nuclear war would take place. But what if...... and it is a big what if, a validly elected Pope did apostacize? Would that not just shake the very heart of the Church more than any of the above senerio's? I don't even know what I am saying this, because I have never even thought of this before, much less ever consider it. I will just continue to pray and do penance for the Church and hold fast to what has been taught.
I always have this quote from the Bible at the back of my mind,.. for there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, the elect. I also think of the prophecy of Garabandal that there would be confusion in the Church,..you are so right to say,.. I will just continue to pray and do penance for the Church and hold fast to what has been taught.[/quote]
Those who challenge this new paganism are faced with a difficult option. Either they conform to this philosophy or they arefaced with the prospect of martyrdom. —Fr. John Hardon (1914-2000), How to Be a Loyal Catholic Today? By Being Loyal to the Bishop of Rome;www.therealpresence.org This was in Mark Malletts blog today,..I think Fr. Hardon makes an important point and that is loyalty to the Bishop of Rome. Pope Francis has been given to us by God to lead us in these difficult times.
Norman has stated previously that the month and day of the Garabandal Miracle will be May 13, which next occurs on a Thursday (the day of the Miracle) in 2021.
Oh, now that you say that, I do remember reading this somewhere. However, I pray that we don't have to wait that long for the warning and the miracle. One of my theories is that since it is said it will happen when we least expect it, I wonder if it means that any date we think it will happen on will NOT be it (the warning, that is, not the miracle). That when it does happen we will scratch our heads in disbelief because it won't make sense...until we look at it in hindsight. God is cunning that way. You know what is crazy about 2021 - March 18 is on a Thursday, May 13 is on a Thursday, and June 24 is on a Thursday.. Do you know when this happened in the far past? The year 32. This could have been the year of Jesus' crucifiction! I have seen anything from year 28 to 36 AD, and even wilder ideas too. But if you think in the most accepted terms, there is no year 0 in the current calendar. Therefore, some say Jesus was born in the year 2 or 1 BC, anyway, its a huge debate that I do not want to get into and it is way too confusing anyway. Wouldn't it be interesting though, if counting backwords from today, the year 32 was the year he died and rose, on the same days as those that occur in the year that these warnings and miracles occur now? Just food for fun thought. Remember, the institution of the Eucharist was on a thursday...and there were 11 saints present that day too... The next time these dates are all on Thursdays after 2021 will be 2038, just for the record. Here are some neat calendar calculators: http://calendarhome.com/daycalc.html
I posted this in Garabandal News thread also. What do you think? The way I understand it Conchita said that the Miracle will happen in March or April (maybe May also) between 8-16th of those months on a Thursday at 8:30 PM landing on Feast day of young Eucharistic Martyr with some ecclesiastical event that has not happened in Conchita's life. I have heard people trying to figure who this young martyr is. Has anyone thought that this young martyr is JESUS? He was the original Eucharistic Martyr. He was young when He died. He died the next day for the Eucharist on Good Friday. Is it possible that the Miracle day is on Holy Thursday? That day floats between March and April every year. It can land between the 8th and 16th. There is also always a full moon during Holy week which looks like a Host. Some will say but Holy Thursday is not a special ecclesiastical event that never happened in Conchita's life. Correct, but that doesn't mean that some special ecclesiastical event happens ON Holy Thursday and the day of the miracle. At 8:30 PM around the world is usually right after the Holy Thursday services have been held. I checked when Easter and thus Holy Thursday next fall between the 8-16th. Guess when? It falls next in 2017. Isn't that the year of the 100 anniversary of Fatima? Holy Thursday in 2017 is April 13th 2017. There is that 13th day that a lot have talked about (Fatima etc). So that date falls between March and April (Apr 13). It lands on a Thursday (Holy Thursday). Jesus (who is young at that time) institutes the Eucharist. He martyrs for the Eucharist the next day (Good Friday). He's actually arrested Holy Thursday night. The miracle permanent sign is a Host in the sky that will appear at Pines in Garabandal right after Holy Thursday Mass (Institution of Eucharist is celebrated all over earth). Okay we've got it. April 13, 2017 is date of miracle...haha. Glenn it is now your job to casually tell Conchita of this date and your reasons why and see if her eyes light up. Warning thus will occur any time up to a year before this, maybe Ash Wednesday March 1st 2017? Someone else can figure out the Warning date now...hehe.
