VACCINES

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Fede, Nov 17, 2020.

  1. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    That's very sweet of you. Thank you for that validation.
     
  2. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Many of the new 'covid' vaccines are linked to aborted fetal cells.

    The Press-titutes of the New World order love Catholics to are taking and also giving out this vaccine - they are delirious with delight -

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    Feels like the Church has caved into the New Morality.

    Cowards!
     
  3. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    One increasingly feels like a 'lone voice' crying in the wilderness.

    I will not be taking any of the covid vaccines.

    Here I take my stand against the New World Order and the New Morality irrespective of the cost. I have planted my heels firmly in the ground of pro-life.
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He has tripled down on this, bless him. But why has the Holy Father not said the same?


    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...ith?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

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    December 29, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Bishop Joseph Strickland has once again spoken out against abortion-tainted vaccines in this week’s episode of The Bishop Strickland Show.

    Besides highlighting the immorality and anti-Catholicism of vaccines linked to aborted baby cells, Bishop Strickland also addressed other concerns regarding the coronavirus, including mandatory vaccine laws.

    “I would encourage people to resist any forcing of receiving these vaccines,” Bishop Strickland said. “We need to look at all the sides of the issue and make a well-informed conscience decision” according to what Church doctrine teaches.


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    Strickland and co-host Terry Barber also spoke about the possibility that vaccine mandates will be specifically targeted from the government towards the Catholic Church, and that they will lead to persecution. He noted that “probably most of the time through history, some[where] in the world, the Church has been persecuted.”

    “We have to be willing to do what we have to,” he continued.

    Strickland courageously states that even if speaking the truth may lead to persecution, “in justice we need to speak against that and...resist any diminishing of the freedom of religion and the freedom of living our faith in every aspect of society.”

    Watch The Bishop Strickland Show, co-hosted by Terry Barber of Virgin Most Powerful Radio, which airs every Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. EST on LifeSite’s YouTube channel. Click here to watch all past episodes.
     
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  5. andree

    andree Powers

    Biden took his vaccine and here he refers to Harris as "president elect". Side effect of the shot or lack of oxygen from the mask perhaps?

     
  6. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    I hope people have found the pdf I attached on the thread of a table breaking down the vaccines throughout trial phases.
     
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  7. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    It is just all very strange.

    I would feel much better if in United States, Wahun Virus was not politicized and we were actually fighting it with science...and not picking and choosing remedies by political beliefs.

    Also, they say, some vaccines are changing our genetics. Some of you on here are in medical field. I don’t see why anyone would want to mess with your DNA. That in itself sounds contrary to Gods will.

    Lastly, if you needed to unite the world this would be the perfect storm. We see videos of people over reacting to many things. They almost look possessed.

    We live in a interesting time. I wouldn’t get caught up in the warning or this and that seer. I think we are seeing things right before our eyes.

    Most of us here are older...we might not get the full weight of this spiritual darkness but are kids sure will have a tough road.

    I see it differently, i KNOW GOD is real...i also know there is dark forces. God will provide, whom shall I fear.

    Even for a fallen saint like myself.

    br. al
     
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  8. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    There are vaccines that are inline with pro life morals. They ate in trial phases. I will repost the pdf I found later today. Hmm, I may create a new thread for it so it's easier to find:).
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Sure feels that way.. I was listening to Bishop Strickland on Virgin Most Powerful radio. He was unequivocal. No on the vaccine made from aborted cells
     
  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Thank you I will look.

    One of our cleaners go the Piftzer vaccine two days ago. I was fascinated as she was the first person I met who had gotten the jab so I asked loads of questions..she is a lady I would say in her late sixties and appears very fit and healthy.:) A lovely lady I am fond of.

    So what I noted is this. Quite severe arm pains two days later. Very sleepless the first night. I am concerned these seem to me unusual symptoms.

    But I am maybe I am more than a little biased.

    Still...

    (She got the jab early because she works on a children's Cancer Ward)
     
  11. Josetxu

    Josetxu Principalities

    If anyone has proof that the vaccines are made with aborted cells, please provide proof. I think it's a lie. And Pope Francis is in favor of vaccines.
     
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    Josetxu Principalities

  13. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Bishop Schneider explains why Christians must never take abortion-tainted COVID vaccine

    This is a powerful interview.

     
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  14. Fede

    Fede Archangels

    Here is a website that may answer your question.

    https://cogforlife.org/
     
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  15. Fede

    Fede Archangels

  16. RoryRory

    RoryRory Perseverance

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  17. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    This is a snapshot of the first page. There are many links in the attachment for your further research. This is by far, the best collective resource I have found. Interestingly, this was also included in footnotes of a letter my bishop sent to (presumably) all parishes in my diocese.

    By the way, you will find this document was updated December 14, 2020

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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    I'm afraid I need a translator for this. Which covid vaccines are ethically acceptable--bottom line.
     
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  19. Fede

    Fede Archangels

    I don't believe any are yet. Bishop Strickland said to wait as they are working on them...lets pray! But I still won't trust them because of the new technology..
     
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  20. Fede

    Fede Archangels


    From CoG for life:

    Sarah Quale, president of Personhood Alliance Education, notes: “By promoting so-called ‘scientific benefits’ gained from children who were intentionally killed, regardless of when their deaths occurred, we continue to align ourselves with the evil of abortion. This includes harvesting aborted fetal cell lines in the past and in the present, which we know is currently happening for future vaccine production. By ignoring this, we help perpetuate and further legitimize the connection between abortion, biomedical science, and human trafficking.”

    The Personhood Alliance warns that any effort to commodify aborted human beings in the design, production, and testing of vaccines will continue indefinitely unless and until Christians demand biomedical science be separated from the killing and trafficking of innocent human beings. “There remains an ethical dilemma here,” says Quale, “whether we want to ignore it for the sake of COVID-19 or not. Currently, there are ethical alternatives available for producing and testing COVID-19 vaccines. Why wouldn’t we use the time we have right now to demand a fully ethical vaccine be brought to market instead?”

    Les Riley, interim president of the Personhood Alliance, adds: “Personhood formed a committee that spent months wrestling with these ethical issues—Doctors, bioethicists, researchers, pastors, and apologists. Based on direct evidence, they reported that 6 of the 8 COVID-19 candidates were unethically produced and/or tested, including the Pfizer vaccine. The two remaining ones will likely also be tested unethically.”

    “This fact is not disputed by others who are arguing in support of these vaccines,” says Riley. “We are all citing the same research and using the same data. However, they are coming to a completely different moral conclusion, based on a Utilitarian ethic. What we are sure of is this: Producing and testing vaccines using the broken little bodies of aborted children should never be considered a ‘scientific benefit.’ We are continuing to dehumanize these babies, and it is repugnant.”

    “This is why the pro-life movement as a whole is having such a difficult time ending abortion,” urges Riley. “Because we compromise. Because we allow exceptions; whether that be in abortion law or in trafficking the body parts of abortion’s victims. We pull the rug out from under our own feet, undermine our own principles, and dismiss the value God places on each and every life He creates. Talk about harming our own ability to effectively witness and share the Gospel!”

    President of Personhood Alliance affiliate Personhood South Carolina, Dr. Matthew Clark—who is also a pastor and holds a Masters in Public Health from Harvard, with a specific focus on pediatrics, allergy, and immunology—lends his expertise: “Let’s not allow sophistry to cloud the obvious issue. Baby-murder was the source of cells used to test most of the currently available COVID vaccines. Every Biblically-minded Christian should reflect deeply on this fact. To ignore or minimize this fact is to be pro-death, not pro-life.”

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    The Personhood Alliance is a confederation of 28 independent pro-life organizations who pursue personhood as the essential strategy for restoring legal protections to every human being—from biological beginning to natural death, without exception—and who endeavor to uphold the Biblical worldview in 21st-century politics and culture by honoring God’s design for life, marriage, family, sexuality, and gender.

    https://personhood.org/media/press-...to-dismissals-of-covid-vaccine-abortion-link/
     
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