Pedro Regis messages from the BVM

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by Fatima, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Jane

    Jane Angels

    I haven't read them at all. And have no intentions to read them.
    But it caught my eye with Mary speaking against Her consecrated Sons. o_O
    So I will leave now. :)
     
  2. sunburst

    sunburst Powers

    I agree we need to live one day at a time. The most important thing is to pray and grow in virtue through the sacraments. But I also believe nothing happens without God allowing it. So just like any revelations it doesn't hurt to pay attention,..and depend on God for disernment of such revelations as we may benefit from them.
    In any case it gives one a good idea as to the urgency of the times. It's the same thing with Medjugorje,..some people may not believe but for it to be going on for so long,...that would have to be one big hoax, and we have to ask ourselves do the revelations lead us to greater devotion and holiness...
     
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  3. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    We have a loving mother who wants to prepare the whole world for what is to come. No one will ever be able to say, they were not forewarned when this all takes place. Our earth is literally growning, howlling, booming all over the world right now and no one in the media understands it or can explain it. This is what Pedro is talking about. Massive earth destruction because of sin. We are in the end times and nothing has ever taken place likewhat we are about to witness. Mary say's it is much - much worse than the great flood. Scary?? Yeah!! For a reason. The earth will be renewed, both in its substance and the substance of those who will remain.
     
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  4. PotatoSack

    PotatoSack Powers

    I agree. it was years ago I first heard of Pedro's messages, and back then they were a list of calamities in several parts of the world and maybe one would come true...as were the odds. So for me personally, I do not read any of Pedro's messages and I have not for years.
     
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  5. MarkW

    MarkW Guest

    From the Church approved apparitions at Akita, 1973:

    "With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord."
     
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  6. Jane

    Jane Angels

    If church have approved these words, then I believe. :)
    Mark, You seem to have a wealth of information.
     
  7. MarkW

    MarkW Guest

    I am SOOOO going to tell my wife you said that!!!

    Even more interestingly about Akita, the bishop in Japan was not sure what to do - whether to approve the apparition or not. He felt it legitimate, but didn't want to cause scandal. He went to Rome four times before he gave his approval. The final element was that Cardinal Ratzinger said something to the effect that, "The message is the same as the third secret of Fatima."
     
  8. Jane

    Jane Angels

    Ahhh, have I opened a can of worms??:D Your wife I'm sure has good knowledge too, and thinks like a woman. (y) haha

    Can I just confirm this?
    Akita. I don't know much about. You say the Bishop there approved it.
    Have there been any other Bishops who have said differently?
    Has the Church given the 'final' stamp of approval?
     
  9. MarkW

    MarkW Guest

    Hi Jane,

    No can of worms. She knows far more than I do. I think she has every book Ratzinger/Benedict ever wrote...and has actually read them.

    Yes, Akita is approved. The local bishop has the responsibility of judging the supernatural nature of any apparition. This is true throughout the Church. Rome only gets involved in situations where there's a conflict or a firm and final answer is needed. For example...

    Our Lady of America is Church approved. It was approved in the 1960's by the local bishop. Rome has never spoken on the subject officially. However, Cardinal Burke did judge that the bishop followed the proper process in canon law to make the approval. Rome need not give further opinion unless some other element is discovered.

    Contrast that to Medjugorie, where the local bishop has ruled against the apparitions. There are enough faithful people speaking favorably about Medjugorie, and enough good fruits, that Rome decided to look into the matter for a final approval or denial of approval. Last I heard, they were supposed to announce something late last year, but clearly that didn't happen.

    Akita is similar to the first point. The local ordinary has declared it supernatural in origin and a legitimate Marian apparition, so no further comment is needed from Rome without some scandal or unanswered questions that might arise.

    Rome only speaks to settle controversy or answer serious questions.
     
  10. Jane

    Jane Angels

    I stand my ground. You are a wealth of information. :D

    So that gives me a good understanding with the church and various apparitions.
    Basically, if the Bishops give their approval, it is approved.
    I knew the Bishops had said not to follow Medjugorje and Garabandal. That's another reason why I stay away.
    But I couldn't understand why the church is investigating Medjugorje and not Garabandal. But it is because of the volume of people following and conversions in Medj.

    I wonder when they are going to finalise Medjugorje. I wonder if they ever will?

    I will have to remember, if I ever need to know anything about Ratzinger/Benedict, I will ask you to ask your wife. :LOL:
     
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  11. Jimmyiz

    Jimmyiz Guest

    I knew about Medjugorje and the Bishop but not Garabandal. So the Bishop gave his disapproval at Garabandal? I didn't know that.
     
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  12. MarkW

    MarkW Guest

    To be honest, I'm not sure where things stand right now with Garabandal. I did read somewhere that the bishops involved had spoken against it (3 bishops, if I remember correctly). I did find a letter once, but I have not a bit of Spanish and no idea what it said. There seems to be some question now about whether or not the prohibition is lifted or being lifted. That's part of why I'm on the fence with Garabandal...I honestly don't know the status.
     
  13. Yes I read a book about Communist infiltration in to the Church
     
  14. Jane

    Jane Angels

    Interesting to know.
    Who was the first prophet to tell us about communism?
    I will have to check again, but I think St Faustina mentioned it.
    Was there anyone else? I'm sure there might be a few?????
     
  15. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    TO ALL HERE: THE TRUTH ABOUT GARABANDAL & THE BISHOP'S RULING.

    Two commissions convened by bishops of Santander, Spain, have stated that there were no phenomena which would authentic the events as certainly supernatural, they did not condemn the message. In this regard, the first commission stated, "we have NOT found anything deserving of ecclesiastical censure or condemnation either in the doctrine or in the spiritual recommendations that have been published as having been addressed to the faithful." The bishop who called the second commission, Bishop del Val, upon retiring from office stated in an interview that the message of Garabandal was "important" and "theologically correct."


    There seems to be two obstacles. The first is that the Bishops expected the "Warning & Miracle "to have happened already, and thus it would have been approved after both had taken place, as prophesied.
    The other obstacle was the Blessed Mother's condemnation of her priests. The second message caused particular controversy when it was revealed that Conchita had actually written "many cardinals, many bishops and many priests are following the road to perdition." So how can they approve a condemning self fulfilling prophecy ?

    It seems, therefore, that notwithstanding the decisions of two commissions accepted by the bishops of Santander, that there are reasonable grounds for individual Catholics to find Garabandal credible. The children themselves predicted that the message of Garabandal would be approved with difficulty, but in sufficient time to spread it. Perhaps this means that the "Warning" (a clearly supernatural event) must occur first for approval to be given.
     
  16. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    BISHOP OF SANTANDER'S OFFICIAL LETTER ON GARABANDAL :

    Regarding the theological content of the Messages, in His “Official Note” of July 8, 1965 Bishop Eugenio Beitia of Santander wrote,
    " We point out, however, that we have not found anything deserving of ecclesiastical censorship or condemnation either in the doctrine or in the spiritual recommendations that have been publicized as having been addressed to the faithful, for these contain an exhortation to prayer and sacrifice, to Eucharistic devotion, to veneration of Our Lady in traditional praiseworthy ways, and to holy fear of God offended by our sins. They simply repeat the common doctrine of the Church in these matters.”
     
  17. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    Three very interesting messages to Pedro Regis;

    3.793 – Message of Our Lady, delivered in Aguas Lindas de Goias/GO, delivered on March 19, 2013
    Dear children, a great event will occur in the Church: thousands left, thousands will return. Intensify your prayers for the Church. I am your Mother and I want to help you. Do not stand about with your arms crossed. Make an effort and return to my Jesus. He awaits you with open arms. Be courageous and do not hold back. Accept the Gospel and be reconciled with God. Do not live in sin. This is the opportune time for your return to the Lord. Open your hearts and listen to the voice of God. You live in a time of great tribulation. Bend your knees in prayer and everything will end well for you. Courage. My Jesus is at your side. This is the message which I bring to you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.
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    3.792 – Message of Our Lady, delivered in Paranoa/DF, delivered on March 18, 2013 transmitted in 18/03/2013
    Dear children, give your best to the mission which the Lord has entrusted to you. By your example and your words, show everyone that you belong to the Lord. You are in the world, but you are not of the world. Remain steadfast upon the way I have shown you. When you happen to fall, call upon Jesus. In Him is your strength and only through Him will you achieve victory. Do not live in sin. Return to the Lord who loves you and awaits you with the immense love of a Father. I am your Mother and I came from Heaven to take you to Heaven. Open your hearts and I will lead you to my Son Jesus. You are going toward a future of painful trials. This is a time of great spiritual confusion. Seek strength in the words of my Jesus and in the Eucharist. Pray for the Church. Its enemies will act with great fury. Death will be present in the house of God. The enemies will arrive by the Via Apia. I suffer because of what is coming for you. Pray. Pay attention to what I tell you. Be alert. What you have to do, do not put off until tomorrow. This is the message which I bring to you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.
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    3.791 – Message of Our Lady, delivered at Foz do Iguacu/PR, delivered on March 17, 2013 transmitted in 17/03/2013
    Dear children, be filled with trust, faith and hope. Even though you are facing difficulties, do not be discouraged, do not hold back. Whoever is with Jesus will never experience the weight of defeat. Trust completely in the power of the Lord. Do not live separated from His grace. He is calling you. Say yes with courage and joy. Humanity is moving toward the abyss of destruction which men have prepared with their own hands. Pray. Only through the power of prayer can you withstand the weight of the trials that are on the way. I am your Mother and I am at your side. I ask you to intensify your prayers on behalf of the Church. There will be great confusion, but the victory will belong to Jesus. Do not be afraid. The victory will occur. The barque of St. Peter will be surrounded by enemies and Peter will suffer much. Pray, pray, pray. I am your Mother and I will plead with my Jesus for you. Courage. This is the message which I bring to you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.
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  18. 3.790 – Message of Our Lady, delivered on March 16, 2013 transmitted in 16/03/2013

    Dear children, St. Peter will direct his barque amidst great tempests. Pray. The successor of Peter is going to need your prayers. He will experience his Calvary. He will be loved and hated because of his positions. Now is the time of suffering. The poison is in the tree, not in the fruit. The Church of my Jesus is going toward a future of great trials, but as I have already told you, Jesus is in charge of everything. Peter in the land of Peter. What I am telling you, you may not comprehend now, but calm your hearts, for Jesus walks with you. The king will suffer because of his subjects. Do not be afraid. I am your Mother and I will plead with my Jesus for you. The road will be short for the king, similar to the crossing of the famous plaza. Bend your knees in prayer. In the end, the victory will belong to the Lord. Love the truth and remain with the Church. The lessons of the past should not be forgotten. Go forward without fear. This is the message which I bring to you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.




    3.789 – Message of Our Lady, delivered in Juiz de For a/MG, delivered on March 12, 2013 transmitted in 12/03/2013
    Dear children, believe firmly in the power of the Lord and you will see that everything will end well. Do not lose hope. My Jesus needs your sincere and courageous yes. Do not live separated from His grace. Return to Him quickly. What you have to do, do not put off until tomorrow. You live in a time of great spiritual confusion. Seek strength in prayer and in the Eucharist. Open your hearts and accept the Gospel of my Jesus. In everything, put God in first place. Dangerous birds will bring the seed of evil, but in the vineyard of the Lord only the seed of truth will grow. The fire in the Palace is the fruit of dishonesty. I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer because of what is coming for you. Pay attention to what I tell you. Bend your knees in prayer. When everything seems lost, the victory of God will come for men and women of faith. Courage. I am with you. This is the message which I bring you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.




    3.787 - Message of Our Lady, delivered in Rio de Janeiro, delivered in the afternoon on March 11, 2013 transmitted in 11/03/2013

    Dear children, I love you as you are. I ask you to keep alight the flame of your faith and to be like Jesus in every way. You are not alone. Walk with the certainty that Jesus is very near to you. Do not hold back. Give the best of yourself to the mission which the Lord has entrusted to you. There is no victory without the cross. The Church will carry a heavy cross. It will be persecuted and humiliated. It will face a painful storm, but it will not sink. Be alert. You still have long years of hard trials ahead. Courage. I will plead with my Jesus for you. Rejoice, for your names are already written in Heaven. This is the message which I bring to you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to gather you here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace be with you.
     
  19. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    MS7, the messages to Pedro Regis are getting much more specific since Benedict's retrirement. They are much more directed to calamities coming soon within the Church. The last 12 messages, which have yet to be translated into english, seem to be even more alarming (google transalte gives a fair translation of them).

    The poison is in the tree, not in the fruit seems to indicate there is much evil being planned within the walls of the Vatican, but not by the Pope.
     
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  20. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    April 14th message: "The betrayal will come to the throne of Peter and the pain will be great for men and women of faith".

    April 13th messsage: "Europe's population will decrease tremendously. Crowds seek relief in many regions of the earth. Rich and poor will walk in the same direction and the same shall eat bread. Faith is present in a few hearts and the Church of My Jesus will suffer greatly. Heathen nations will host the Gospel and Jesus will be loved. Great are the tribulations, but ultimately God's victory will come with the final triumph of My Immaculate Heart".

    April 6th message: "Accept the Gospel and not stray from the true doctrine. Be faithful. Disobedience will cause confusion. Those chosen will abandon the altars and walk the streets. States are against the truth".

    April 2nd message: "Many who are fervent in faith will become indifferent. Decisions will be taken and there will be great revolt. Difficult days to come the Church of My Jesus".
     
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