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Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. WTW

    WTW Guest

    It is absolutely insane to see the idea pushed that we may not know who won the election for MONTHS.
     
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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    :cry::cry::cry:
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    I see where you are coming from. My sister said much the same thing. However I feel that the dems/media have been so corrupt and so "dirty pool" at every step of the way that the marquis of Queensbury rules that everyone thinks should apply simply do not work if only one side complies. DJT came in with "bunches of punches" as Jesse Romero would say (former boxer/LA detective and wonderful lay evangelist). When confronting a bully politeness only takes you so far. Dan Bongino said that Trump was playing to his base which is exactly the right strategy. Who can say? And maybe he lost some voters but my sense is he didn't. Still praying. Hard.
     
  4. WTW

    WTW Guest

    “We must not be surprised when we hear of murders, of killings, of wars, of hatred. If a mother can kill her own child, what is left but for us to kill each other.”
    - Mother Teresa
     
  5. AED

    AED Powers

    A prophet. Anointed by God. She also said "the fruit of abortion is nuclear war."
     
  6. So please tell us what other pro-life issue rises to the importance of 62 million innocent children murdered.... that would make you support a pro-abortion candidate who wants to codify Roe v Wade?

    Yes history lesson from WW2... .millions of innocents dehumanized and slaughtered.
     
  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Preach it! What does it take to wake up Catholics have fallen into this grave error? Holy Spirit please come by means of the powerful intercession of the Immaculate Heart of Mary your well beloved spouse. I am devastated at this blindness. Scripture speaks of God permitting a great delusion because people preferred "the Lie to the Truth". Seriously if the dems win this election there will be no more Catholics. All will offer "incense to the emperor" whether by force or conviction or passivity. The remnant will be eliminated just like the Nazi playbook. The lion won't eat you last!
    We did not elect a religious icon. We elected a street fighter that had the skill set needed to cut us free from the NWO. God gave him the victory in 2016 against all odds. I pray He may still grant us victory in 2020. This pitched battle between dark and light only ends one way. Some years ago when I was in front of the Blessed Sacrament I believe the Blessed Mother spoke to me in an interior vision. Yes it could have been my imagination but it was so clear and out of the blue and not what I was praying about at the time. She was standing to the right of the Monstrance and she said to me "the times of times are upon us. Where will YOU stand?" I was so alarmed and sad because I thought I was standing with her and her Son. I've pondered it ever since. I had been drifting.. asleep at the wheel. She woke me up! A true Mother. How easy it is to take a stand that is not with Jesus but with the world. To me the life of the unborn is a litmus test. It is the Lamb's Blood over our doors. Yes it is that serious.. Every day I ask her to keep my feet on the narrow way. May God have mercy on us all.
    Sorry for the rant but THIS IS NO ORDINARY ELECTION.
     
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  8. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Exactly AED and well said!

    Editing to add.....several of my non-Catholic friends have listened to the Fr. Altman video about being Catholic and Dem. They have all said they tear up when he mentions going to stand in front of God upon death and the 60 million unborn babies will be there also. Powerful visual and something we should all consider. I cannot vote for someone who supports murder of innocents.
     
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  9. Kclark

    Kclark Principalities

    There is no such thing as Pro abortion.... and Hitler was a Catholic

    We should love one another.... as Jesus
     
  10. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Yes we should love one another. However, we live in an imperfect world and all of us our imperfect. We are not Jesus.

    We are either for killing unborn babies or against killing unborn babies. There is no in between. I used to walk the line "I would never do it but I don't think I have the right to tell other people what they can do". I walked that line for many years I am ashamed to say. I have taken it to confession many years ago now and asked for forgiveness on my hard heart. I now work vehemently to try and stop abortion which is the killing of unborn human beings. Any politician that supports the killing of babies will never get my vote.
     
  11. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. My experience as well. I have the unique perspective of being on both sides of this issue. When I was 20 I helped my college roommate procure an abortion. Even though I have confessed it I am still haunted by the horror of what I did. When I was 30 and carrying my 3rd child I was diagnosed with cancer and told by my doctor I would have to abort to save my life. At this time by God's grace I had returned to the sacraments and the Church. I had a weekend in which to decide. I prayed for guidance. I had two small children. I didn't know what to do. The answer came clearly and unambiguously on the non verbal level in my spirit. Its hard for me to translate this into words but I will try. God showed me very clearly that in this situation only one person could make the free will decision. The baby in my womb could not. He could not say "I willingly give up my life for you mother." The only person capable of the decision was me. I could choose to kill my child and live or i could choose to save my child and face the possibility of my own death. But it was very clear to me that God's law did not allow for the murder of my child. The choice was mine. By God's grace I was able to choose life. I knew I would save my child. I knew God would take care of us regardless. I knew I truly had no other "choice". My doctor was angry. I had to switch doctors but I am here today and so is my son. I was very ill and it was a hazardous delivery--life and death really--but I came through it and so did my baby. I am not judging anyone who is faced with this choice. It is a terrible cross to hang on but Jesus makes it clear what we must do. And truly His grace is sufficient. For those who wish to keep this legal and acceptable I plead with you for the sake of the innocent babies and your own soul renounce this grave sin. It may be cloaked in social justice double speak but it is still murder.
     
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  12. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    no no no please don't do that. It's the worst crime against humanity. If you are Catholic, you must support Pro Life and there is only one candidate. I am former OB nurse and have watched too many babies delivered preterm at 16 weeks gasping for life. Same baby in abortion clinic having his neck severed and brain sucked out. No we are the only voice for the unborn. You have to vote for the prolife candidate. Ever since the sin of abortion has taken hold in our world things have gone south fast.
     
  13. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    Hitler was not a practicing Catholic at all....ever. NO, you cannot justify voting for a Pro Choice candidate ever. It doesn't coincide with your Catholicity. You are a cafeteria Catholic otherwise
     
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  14. Franciscan

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    I will not vote for Trump ... I will not vote for Biden.

    In a country of 300 million people, this is what we have to offer. What a disaster!...

    I will write in a name for the presidency and vote Republican the rest of the way down the ballet form.

    And whoever ends up winning the presidency out of the two candidates will result in a chastisement for the U.S. Mark my words.
     
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  15. djmoforegon

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    Before you cast a vote for anyone, you must know that there are moral consequences given to our civic duties. Pope Benedict XVI warns that there are "non-negotiable" issues.

    "As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, the principal focus of her
    interventions in the public arena is the protection and promotion of the dignity of
    the person, and she is thereby consciously drawing particular attention to
    principles which are not negotiable. Among these the following emerge clearly
    today:
    (a) protection of life in all its stages, from the first moment of conception
    until natural death;
    (b) recognition and promotion of the natural structure of the family as
    a union between a man and a woman based on marriage, and its
    defense from attempts to make it juridically equivalent to radically
    different forms of union which in reality harm it and contribute to its
    destabilization, obscuring its particular character and its irreplaceable
    social role;
    (c) the protection of the right of parents to educate their children.
    (Address to European Parliamentary Group, 30 March 2006)"

    Here the Pope establishes a basic distinction, non-negotiable common goods—those
    involving “fundamental and inalienable rights” (CCC 1907). They are morally
    unequivocal, and their violation is an intrinsic evil which can never be justified by
    motive or circumstances.

    This is the consensus of teachings on this matter: To vote for such a candidate even with the knowledge that the candidate is pro-abortion is to become an accomplice in the moral evil of abortion. If the voter also knows this, then the voter sins mortally.
     
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  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You had a poor History teacher I am afraid.
     
  17. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Thank you AED for this powerful testimony. Your decision saved your precious child, as well as your soul. Praise God that you survived. I am voting for Donald J.Trump because he is pro life.
     
  18. Franciscan

    Franciscan Angels


    Also note that if there is an option to write in a different candidate's name that it is morally permissible to do so. The moral obligation is completely fulfilled in such as case as well.
     
  19. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Sadly this is how evil advances. The chastisement may be even more severe should the pro choice candidate win. Even if you believe that your moral obligation will be fulfiled, you are casting your vote with the knowledge that the odds of your write in candidate wining this election are slim to none; you know that Trump or Biden will win.
     
  20. The moving poem a repentant Italian playboy wrote for the son he had aborted
    [​IMG] Matthew Green
    May 18, 2019
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    Now prolife, actor Andrea Roncato says his decision was the worst mistake of his life.

    Here is a translation of a poem he wrote for the child he had aborted so many years ago, published in the book he mentioned in the interview:

    I would have liked you to be small, so I could hug you.
    I would have liked you to be big, so I could lean on you.
    I would have liked you to be looking out the window in winter, watching the snow begin to fall.
    I would have liked you to be lying under the covers during a storm, silent so you could hear the sound of the rainfall.
    I would have liked you to be kind to dogs, so you could pet them,
    and affectionate with the elderly, so you could love them.
    I would have liked you to be handsome, so I could brag about you,
    with big eyes, like your mother’s.
    I would have liked to sing to you, to make you fall asleep, and continue the dream that woke you up.
    I would have liked you to be shy, so I could see you blush,
    and stubborn, so I could argue with you.
    I would have liked you to be at my side, so the two of us could walk in silence,
    trying to understand what the other was thinking inside and couldn’t manage to say.
    I would have liked to teach you all the things I don’t know how to do.
    I would have liked you to leave someday, so I could have the pleasure of seeing you come back home.
    I would have liked you to experience your first love.
    I would have liked you near me on the day I must leave this world.
    I wish I had wanted you, that time when I didn’t want you …
    https://aleteia.org/2019/05/18/the-...he-had-aborted/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
     
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