The Great Betrayal - The China-Vatican Deal

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by Blizzard, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It was St Paul who said that the root of all evil is the love of money Gow true this is.
    Judas had a big cash return in mind and was a thief.
     
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    But of course the higher the crime the higher the burden of truth.

    This would be a huge, huge crime.

    Though I have to say that the circumstantial proofs are considerable.

    The word Freemason springs to mind
     
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  3. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I read an article somewhere in which it said the Italian Bishops had asked Holy Father to allow them to open the Churches in Italy again, and Holy Father said no, they would need to do what the Government told them.

    I had wondered how on earth the Church around the whole world had closed it's doors to the people. I believe this unanimous decision came from the Vatican. Which leads me to wonder if the Holy Father was behind throwing the whole Church under the bus, same as the Catholic Church in China.

    Was the China-Vatican deal just a practice run for the new norm for us Catholics worldwide. Has the Church handed over it's authority to the state. Wouldn't we be better off dead than live in a world where God has to take second place to the government. I thought God should come first. And keeping Holy the Sabbath Day surely comes before any government, unless we are living under communist rule.
     
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  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Im not surprised that the pope/Vatican has acquiesced to government authorities. Didn’t the pope say that we need to adhere to the mandates of the United Nations? No, we do not surrender our faith to any civil authority. We follow Gods law, not this godless gang of global atheists.[/QUOTE]
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Isn't there an old saying, "We get the leaders we deserve." Certainly there has been an infiltration, but the firewall of sacramental life, prayer and fasting has been abandoned for many decades. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Neither, only God.

    We need look no further than the end of our own noses. The buck stops there.

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am glad you posted this. Every so often we are reminded that when we point the finger, we have three fingers pointing back at ourselves.
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree. The laity has gotten very comfortable with Catholic-lite. No hell. No fasting. No serious prayer life.("relax. God loves you.") No repentence. No confession. No belief in the Real Presence. I daresay many will kick and s ream and walk out if we return to real Catholic life. Egypt is very comfortable. Sodom is all about diversity isnt it?:eek::mad::(
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Great description.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think today's first reading at Mass from the Prophet Hosea describes our current position perfectly.

    It's an eye opener
     
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  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Indeed.

    When they sow the wind,
    they shall reap the whirlwind;
    The stalk of grain that forms no ear
    can yield no flour;
    Even if it could,
    strangers would swallow it.
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Evil does the exact opposite of the Holy. It reminds me in this instance that it is Jesus I follow, not men.

    If there is one thing good about all this total wickedness it is to teach us to rely and turn totally to God and not on men.

    Certainly there have been evil people in the highest places in the Church before and in every generation.

    Nevertheless this present generation of wicked scoundrels have upped the bar to a new eye popping level which most scandalise even the demons that led them. For they could even show the demons a trick or two.

    A sure Sign of the Coming anti Christ.

    Anyway , thank God I don't live in Rome.
     
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  12. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Yes. Possibly the greatest sin of our times.

    What will they say when they come before the judgement seat of God.

    Do they even believe there will be a judgment!!??


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  13. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    I think you’re absolutely correct.

    Prophecy coming to pass before our eyes.

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