The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Jo M

    Jo M Powers


    Yes we have been asleep, I had no clue that this was going on with the scouts. When I first heard about the boy scout abuse I immediately thought about all of the scout troops that meet at parish churches. Sadly, according to one article that I read today, the names of priests who were boy scout leaders are among the long list of alleged child abusers. I am hoping it's not true, but I suppose we should brace ourselves for more shocking stories. So disturbing.
     
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  2. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Maybe I'm crazy but I have some sympathy for Cardinal Wuerl on the hospital bailout issue. He didn't get the money to fund a lavish lifestyle. He got it to help dig the Vatican out of a hole, and the Vatican were trying to give a dig out to the religious order running the hospital. Managing the Church's finances and buildings must be a nightmare.
     
  3. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes, it’s so sad because these once good organizations have been hijacked by evil people. Thank goodness you were aware before your children got involved.
    Many good folks are completely unaware of how far left these once good groups went.
     
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  4. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Mario, truth is, Pope Francis thinking may not have vaporized, it may simply never been known as it is to us or to Jesus or to those who have accepted the 'hard sayings'. Recall in John [66] And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father. [67] After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him. [68] Then Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away? [69] And Simon Peter answered him: Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. [70] And we have believed and have known, that thou art the Christ, the Son of God.

    I feel those who never accepted the truth, did not know it from the beginning.
     
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  5. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Like reading from today´s paper.

    Incidentally, Jahenny is among those who prophesied the three days of darkness.

     
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  6. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    TIME TO DEFEND THE TRUTH (Just don´t expect it from the Vatican)

    Now is the time to defend the truth, Phoenix bishop says at prayer breakfast

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    Bishop Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix delivers the keynote address at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., April 23, 2019. Credit: EWTN.
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    By Christine Rousselle

    Washington D.C., Apr 23, 2019 / 04:28 pm (CNA).- Bishop Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix called on a gathering of the nation’s Catholic leaders to stand up to the heresies of the modern age and defend the dignity of the human person, body and soul, as an integral part of defending the faith.

    Speaking at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast April 23, the keynote speaker said that the importance of the human body was at the center of a contemporary moral crisis, and crucial to presenting the Church’s teaching in modern society.

    Olmsted said that he believes the “disaster” predicted by Pope St. Paul VI in the encyclical Humanae vitae had come to fruition. Quoting from an exhortation to the married couples of his own diocese, he said that the sexual revolution of the last century had caused humanity “a plague of misery on a scale never known before.”

    “Enough! Husbands and wifes, mothers and fathers, you are called to have great hearts here, counter-cultural and brave. You can build something better, freer, more generous, and nobler,” he said, insisting that rebuilding society began in the home.

    Husbands and wives have to be “all-in” for their sacramental marriage vows, explained Olmsted. This means that couples need to be open to new life, whether “by way of the marital act” or through adoption and fostering.

    "Do not be afraid to sink your roots deeply into the living water that is Jesus Christ. He will not abandon you,” said Olmsted. “Lead your family, and lead in whatever other place the Lord asks, with deep and childlike faith in Him."

    The family, Olmsted said, was the sign that would defeat the heresies of the current age, all of which concerned the human body. Whether in reference to the true nature of marriage, life, and gender, or the resurrection of Christ, when the dignity of the body is questioned, Olmsted said, the truth preached by the Church is cast aside, to the detriment of marriage and unborn children.

    Sacramental marriage “stands now in the way of the gender ideology,” he said, insisting that Catholics must proclaim the truth and oppose attempts to weaken marriage and the family - attempts which “do nothing to strengthen our great country.”


    “Look at the vociferous opposition to the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act,” said Olmsted, referring to Congressional attempts to legislate to require that doctors provide age-appropriate care for infants who survive late-term abortions.

    “Where does this blatant disregard come from?” he asked. “From a hardened heart.”

    Olmsted said it is the great duty of Catholics to “stand up for each child,” offering a courageous witness for life. This, he said, requires each person to “expand our hearts to receive that child” and to “stand in the breech left by hardened hearts.”

    “We Christians, then, must stand up for this reality of marriage today, in our homes, and in the public square, despite the real risk of persecution for doing so," he said.

    “We can do this. We were made for such a time as this.”

    Tags: National Catholic Prayer Breakfast, Bishop Thomas Olmsted

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...phoenix-bishop-says-at-prayer-breakfast-33415
     
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  7. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    An excellent video, Beth B, thanks for posting it, maybe deserving its own thread.
     
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  8. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Yes, infiltration is the key word here, whether it´s the the Boy scouts or the Catholic church. If you can´t beat them, join them, infiltrate them, and destroy from within.

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  9. sunburst

    sunburst Powers

    How odd this man is quoted for his influence,..

    https://gayinfluence.blogspot.com/2012/04/ludwig-wittgenstein.html
     
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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes of course hell really exists.

    You believe this.

    I believe this.

    But does Pope Francis?
     
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  11. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Blizzard, EWTN has aired the following program on this topic which is very well done imho.

     
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  12. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    From the Eponymous Flower blog.

    Capuchin Administrator In Chile Isn’t Walking in the Steps of Padre Pio


    The Capuchin Celestino Aos Braco, who has served as Administrator of Santiago de Chile for less than four weeks, is denying Communion kneeling on the tongue to the faithful.

    (Santiago de Chile) On March 23, Pope Francis appointed the Spanish Capuchin, Fr. Celestino Aos Braco, Apostolic Administrator of the Archdiocese of Santiago de Chile. At the Chrism Mass celebrated on April 18th with the priests of the diocese in the Cathedral Church of Santiago de Chile on April 18th, he refused the faithful, who knelt down to receive Communion, the very body of Christ.
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    If they were abortionists, I'd wager he wouldn't deny them.
     
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  14. AED

    AED Powers

    The only comfort in all of this is to unite our sorrow and horror to the Sacred Heart that it may in some small way console Him. What I find so disturbing are His words to M.J. Jahenny in 1890 about the terrible betrayals of priests. This is a long time in coming. If it was so bad then to distress Our Lord what must it be now?
     
  15. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Excellent video, esp. for those unfamiliar with Saul Alinsky whom I seem to recall was an inspirational figure for a young Obama.

    I haven't watched it all and plan to finish tomorrow.

    Trust Carol to dig out the great stuff no one else can find!
     
  16. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    How very, very sad. All Heaven must be crying. It makes me mad that priests make these nasty decisions.
     
  17. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    You often have me blushing. Thanks Blizzard. :)
     
  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Inspiration for Hillary Clinton as well:mad::(
     
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  19. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

     
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  20. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Exactly.
     

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