Russian documentary about new world order

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Prince of Peace, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    Please tell me where the Blessed Mother that states that the errors of Russia would be spread by Russia after the fall of the SU. Otherwise again it is nothing but speculation on your part.

    BTW here are two posts where you claim that Russia is continuing to spread its messages today.

    Continuing on...

    Facts please... I presented you with 5 questions that pointed to hard facts that Russia stands in the way of the NWO.

    Your response to these questions is that Russia and the NWO are trying to create chaos by not uniting, using these divisions as a tool, so when the Anti Christ comes he can heal the rift. The points in the questions I pose have nothing to do with rift that will be resolved by the anti-christ, and everything do to with the NWO trying to consolidate control, and Russia standing in the way of that. Trying to say that these individual points amount to some sort of orchestrated plot to develop a rift stands in the way of facts. But it sure is a convenient way to dismiss them.

    Mark 3:24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

    Yes many people in the current government in Russia have a shady past. This will happen when transitioning from one government to the next. Putin is ex-KGB... so what?... should Russia be importing all their leadership from western nations? I still have yet to see Russia become a communist country since the fall of the SU, in fact I see a furthering from communism each day. But I sure see the west becoming more communist by the day, and their leaders are not born in communist countries.

    As for the Zapad military exercises being an excuse to invade other countries... does this mean that when the US and South Korea join in military exercises they are going to invade North Korea. Its about military preparedness to protect National interests, and every nation downplays them.
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2016
    Byron likes this.
  2. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    What a bunch of propaganda...


    God forbid if Russia conducts military exercises in response to the building up of military forces along its border. How dare Russia!


    The west acts so innocent in its involvement in the Ukraine and Syria. The west meddles in the Ukraine and Syria, then blames Russia for cleaning it up. The west used the guise of LIBERATION of Syria as a smoke screen to control energy movement in the middle east. Now when Putin starts shoring up Assad, under whom Syria was far better off, Russia becomes the bad guy. The west intervenes in the Ukraine, trying to make a power grab, and when eastern Ukraine did not want to follow suit, and Russia steps in to help them... Russia then becomes the bad guy again.

    The all too common narrative that Russia trying to re-establish communism. What a convenient way to dismiss the failures of the interfering actions of the west in Syria and the Ukraine. Who was it that displaced millions in Syria again... oh thats right it was the Coalition. Who is re-establishing stability in Syria... thats right Russia.


    This is possibly the worst piece in this propaganda. So Russia should have no fear of NATO or the missile defence systems which can easily be changed to missile attack systems? What a joke! Just because NATO is not necessarily growing does not make it any less of a threat either.
     
    Byron likes this.
  3. Please tell me where the Blessed Mother that states that the errors of Russia would be spread by Russia after the fall of the SU.

    Oh, I see...you are one of those who truly believes that we are now living in the time of peace, not based upon the exact requests to be followed by the Church concerning the consecration of Russia by name....so that the faithful can rest easy that they no longer pray for the conversion of Russia because, well, it's just a done deal, so get over it.....but based upon something that you have added to the Mother's request yourself....the disintegration of the Soviet Union. It was Russia spoken of by the Mother no other entity. Russia exists before, during and after that union. Again, talk about a giant non-sequitur which never entered into the prediction until you, sorta like Martin Luther, had to add your own wording to satisfy your own needs. It's not there.

    It's been annoying but I've tried to be patient...but really when you state "your response to my questions" is thus and so you have been projecting upon myself nothing of what I put forth in my very specific reasonings. Your projections upon me have been your way of thinking not mine. Be careful.

    i.e. Your response to these questions is that Russia and the NWO are trying to create chaos by not uniting, using these divisions as a tool, so when the Anti Christ comes he can heal the rift.

    Where in the world did you come up with that interpretation? Russia is a tool with its own limiting goals for which it sees an opening now to pursue. The elitists of the NWO are happy to sit back and just watch the useful/helpful tools being manipulated by their own greed to cause the chaos so necessary for control by the few that hold the means and the power....eventually culminating in the worship of the AC due to that chaos' created dependency for the means of survival. If you're projecting....try projecting out a bit further than the time in which you are limiting yourself.

    Okay...I'm ready to read your next lament that I haven't, again, served your purposes and given you satisfaction. I'm just bad, bad and must buckle under to such desires....if not, then simply re-purpose my answers to your preferred interpretation.
     
    Mary's child and Fatima like this.
  4. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Our Lady didn't give dates for the conversion of Russia or the period of peace. Given the length of time it took for the consecration, it's more than we deserve to see either in our lifetime. Meanwhile, Russia is turning back to Christ, whether or not Putin would score a 10/10 for piety. The West, on the other hand is losing the faith and its leaders are working overtime at eliminating Christianity from our culture. Christmas is being renamed as "the holidays" and Easter is all about a bunny and chocolate whereas due deference is almost all given to the "Holy Month of Ramadan". Islam would fit quite easily with the NWO so long as a few select leaders are part of the inner circle.
     
    AED, Byron and Sorrowful Heart like this.
  5. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    I do not believe we are living in a time of peace. Nor do I believe Russia has been fully consecrated. My point is this... the "Errors of Russia" do not necessarily have to be spread by "Russia". Much like a flu, it doesn't have to spread only from where it originated... but can spread from carrier to carrier. Just because Russia is on its way up doesn't mean we should stop praying for her (another straw man o_O).

    I keep on asking you for facts that back up your statements, because you continuously make them with no evidence to back them up. I am getting annoyed and yet am being patient waiting for you to back up your statements with facts.

    I got the interpretation right from you, I highlighted it in Red, made it bold, and underlined it for you.

    Your the one with the narrative that Russia and the World elite are in league. I want you to prove it. You keep saying I am wrong, yet I have facts to back up my points. Where are your facts? Everything I have seen come from you is nothing but speculation.

    I find it interesting that you have decided to portray yourself as a victim when you cannot back up your statements.
     
  6. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    But it does appear you changed your position. According to this Russia is no longer in league with the NWO, but the NWO is biding its time waiting for Russia (the useful tool) to create the necessary chaos for them to capitalize on.
     
    Byron likes this.
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I missed this, must watch this tonight. :)
     
  8. That's pretty much the case with all of the growing spots in our current world of chaos....some of them already having the tyrants take the helms of "government" and literally starving their people or brutally killing them if any challenge arises from the grassroots. Even though now on the smaller scale these countries should be looked at as models of what could occur on a much larger scale once people are totally dependent upon those who own all means of existence. One of the goals of the NWO elites is population control so the goods will only go to those who always get the dachas in those Commie/atheistic materialist regimes everywhere now and in history. So, any threats now being watched in the world with their powers vying for total control, now mostly regional, are being encouraged by the controlled media (horns), sponsored by the monied globalist types, and actually believing that in the end they will somehow benefit once this new world comes to pass. After being the useful tools history has shown that such naive "gophers" and lemmings are the first before the firing squads.
     
    Byron likes this.
  9. Byron

    Byron Powers

    This is about the European Union, right?
     
  10. They're certainly headed in that direction....as is UK if they don't get BREXIT done....and even then they're not doing much to control the mess, esp. in London. But we see one of the biggest examples in Venezuela....sort of predicted by Maria Esperanza, seeing "it" as starting there.....as far as "useful" chaos goes. Obama came close to completely wreckovating this country making it ripe for take over by the globalists....any more apptmts. to SCOTUS by him would have made us closer to having our constitution be judged by a world court.
     
    AED and Byron like this.
  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The facts are, no one can point to an era of peace since the 1984 consecration to the world, which some believe fulfilled our Lady of Fatima's specific request for Russia, not the world, to be consecrated. Secondly, after the rightful consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary she said comes the Triumph of her Immaculate Heart. Can anyone point to this era of peace? This is all the facts one needs. And if this era of peace came about how come no one gave any credit to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for this alleged era of peace that the whole world missed? Does anyone think for a second that God desired one of the greatest foretold events to take place only to have no one recognize it coming from the Mother of God?
     
    earthtoangels likes this.
  12. Fatima,

    I think that type of "annoyance" comes only because one is attempting to make the facts say what the individual wants to believe and when someone points out the actual state of things that must conclude otherwise that person wants to blame the messenger rather than simply taking off the blinders and face reality. That reality mandates the continuance of the prayer ordered by the Mother for the conversion of Russia, specifically, since obviously what was promised, as you show, is yet to be.....unless one wishes to correct God via His Mother. Not a good thing!
     
  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I would like to believe too that the consecration of Russia fulfilled our Lady of Fatima's request. But the facts simply do not bear out. When was the era of peace since 1984 that I blinked and missed. Are we now in the Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart that is the outcome of this consecration? If so, God must be very disappointed that only a few in the world believe it to have taken place, when his desire was for the whole world to know it took place because of his Mother.

    Here is what Father Gobbi so beautifully said in regards to Mary's Triumph, a Triumph I can see worthy of God's plan for his mother.

    6/24/96: "But I ask myself: this is the Heart of a Mother. Where can the Immaculate Heart of Mary - the Mother - obtain her triumph? Only in the triumph of her Son. If the Son does not triumph, the Heart of the Mother does not triumph. Since the triumph is the culminations of a great victory, only when Christ obtains his great victory will the Immaculate Heart of Mary triumph. And Christ will obtain his final and great victory with his return of glory. So now, I understand why, in her messages, Our Lady says: "The triumph of my Immaculate Heart will coincide with the return of Christ in glory".

    At this point it is appropriate to ask ourselves: what will this return consist of? How many elements will it have? There are so many - all of them most wonderful. I want to speak to you about these elements. First of all, when Christ returns it will be a glorious manifestation of his Being; therefore. let us all discard certain childish interpretations of some exalted visionaries - and by the way, the fact that some priests may get caught up in this is a real pity - who say: "Yes, it is Jesus who reruns in glory - he has appeared there; he is living in such and such a person...!" Ridiculous! If He is returning in glory - He has already come in the his physical nature - it is a glorious manifestation of Christ. Brothers, let us try to understand: what does 'return' mean? Christ is in heaven; He is returning because, in his human nature, He has already come. He is returning in a relative sense, since, with his divinity, Jesus is already present in the Eucharist. He is returning insofar as He will manifest Himself to this world in a glorious way and will bring his Kingdom to this world. Therefore, his Coming will coincide with the union of several elements:

    1. At last, the prayer of the 'Our Father' which Jesus taught us will be fulfilled; it will have its perfect completion. The Divine Will will be fulfilled in a perfect way by all creatures, thus bringing forth the Kingdom of the Divine Will upon this earth.
    2. It will coincide with the Second Pentecost.
    3. I will be the greatest miracle of the divine mercy - the triumph of Jesus' merciful love - which will open the world to a new era, a new civilization, to finally know at last the civilization of love.
    4. But, above all, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart and the return of Christ in glory will coincide with the advent of the Eucharistic Reign of Christ.
    At last, the prayer of the 'Our Father' which Jesus taught us will be fulfilled; it will have its perfect completion. The Divine Will will be fulfilled in a perfect way by all creatures, thus bringing fourth the Kingdom of the Divine Will upon this earth.

    'Your Kingdom come!' But listen.....do you think that after two thousand years in which this invocation has been repeated throughout the world - 'Your Kingdom come, You Kingdom come...' - that at the end, this Kingdom of Christ will not come? It will come! - for the perfect glorification of the Father. And as the Kingdom of Christ comes, all creatures will be led to fulfill the Divine Will in a perfect way, because the first to prevent us from doing the Divine Will was Satan. What was Satan's victory in the early paradise? To lead our first parents to make a choice that was contrary to the Will of the Father - to the Will of God! "You may eat from all trees, except from this one..." (Gen 2:16-17) And then the serpent came, that accursed serpent... But she will crush his head - do not worry! Pope John Paul II said: 'Her offspring - Christ in her, Mary in Christ, the mother united with the Son, the Son united with the Mother.' Therefore, dear Mother, I am pleased that you will crush the head of that huge serpent. Crush it!"

    In the end, the power of Satan will be destroyed because he will be rendered powerless! Being bound, he will no longer be able to do harm; he will no longer be able to lead creatures to say 'no' to the Will of the Father, because creatures will say 'yes' to the Will of the heavenly Father. In this perfect fulfillment of the Divine Will, creation will return almost to its original state - to a new early paradise, in which all creatures will say 'yes' to the Will of the heavenly Father.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2018

Share This Page