Beautifully said Jack. We are all suffering the same diabolical attack and we are fighting together for the restoration of Christendom. As Q says in his many “drops” on the web—where we go one we go all. So many English and Irish and Australians and Germans comment about how glad they are to see the Resistance to the NWO. All Patriots together in this fight against evil. MWGA (make the world great again!)
Youre right Earth, the Brits comparatively do not have an army. Unless you factor the Americans. And they will need the Americans to bail them out. However, if this scenario plays out, it will again be young americans sent to fight another war... and youre right again, that is a huge defense. But how many young Americans will again die in fighting such wars? The Russian economy is not in dire need. The Russians paid off the last of their international debt last year. Unlike the West, which is sinking in debt. These idealistic euphemisms you quote, I agree with. But there hasnt been any evidence produced to say that russia did it! Dont you find that a tad strange? Particularly in light of how we have been duped into unjust wars in the past? Given these unjust wars have been proved as unjust, surely we have the right to qurstion being led into yet another? Dont you think? Where are the mediators, Earth? Where are the peacemakers?
No apologies required, JZ This is a Blog where we all can "Air" what's on our minds! As a near 70 Ol' CrewDog and History Major, I find this World in serious need of ........ remembering where we were so we can avoid the same recurring problems!! GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
"No man is an island". When you find that ever disappearing island without the human factor involved in every day living let us know. Otherwise there will remain those who ARE willing to participate in what the imperfect world orders in its attempts to protect the majority. They are the ones who continue to sacrifice and give their lives for the larger picture....even for their children's world which could become better under the leadership of those of good will. Many who espouse your inevitable critique of the imperfect often wind up instead, perhaps unwittingly, defending the hardened regimes of total control because that is the only other choice if they continue to refuse to accept the most likely solutions to aggression rather than do nothing and permit it to get even more aggressive....after testing the waters. We have that "evidence" to such an approach from the Obama regime's years. The Russian economy IS in need esp. while the U.S. energy supplies increase and being offered as an alternative to the EU, now fearfully threatened by Putin to turn off the spigot.....Merkel being one of them as the most frightened of Putin's threats. It's also weakened due to economic slow down in China. It is a small economy....the size of Italy. It cannot afford to take on major commitments. That's why it can only cause chaos and support already threatened regimes just to appear to be important within regions. Russia's annexation of Crimea made their economy far less interesting for foreign investment as well. When America offers its strength to support its allies it benefits us as well....and the world. America was created to lead. Again, that bigger rather than myopic picture. If you always use hindsight, most convenient type, you are unable to think in any forward direction which direction is so totally new now under President Trump. And that new direction is displayed in the enormous effort for peace rather than giving the sworn enemies of the U.S. everything they need, as the Obama/Hillary regime did with purpose, to develop the weapons to carry out their open plans for U.S. destruction.....including the means for economic destruction....also being Just reported out of Turkey from FOX news: The OPCW finally made it to Douma (prevented by Syrian/Russian officials up to now): latest on the ground reports from survivors of the Russian/Syrian chemical attack....people want more attacks from Trump rather than pin pricks (although they bolstered a hope in them that they aren't being forgotten by the world)....they feel they are fighting not only Assad but now also Russia as they see them as the main support of Assad. Reports from the international investigating teams now permitted after the delay for the Russian/Syrian clean up .....hidden graves have been found of some victims meant to prevent examination of bodies. Family members of victims live in fear now and doctors on the scene have been threatened if they talk about what they saw/who was responsible/Assad. Russia found out that their conventional weapons weren't effective against the rebels but chemical weapons were....so those were the choice, again, for this rebel held town. There are also now witnessed chemical weapon engineers to salvage and rebuild their production line of said weapons. The people know and want more to be done so their future is protected against more such attacks. So no "idealistic euphemisms" here....the facts rather than dreams which only enable the current evil.....be it international enemies or the deep swamp at home. Other news of 11 hours ago: Magnitude 5.5 quake strikes southern Iran, near nuclear plant
jackzokay, There is nothing so difficult to understand about your analogy accept that you are saying that you would prefer that the UK allows Russia to bully them into submission, when does that end and how. If the lion is going to eat the pup over such a ridiculous matter, it is likely that the lion already had plans to eat the pup. That article that I posted said nothing about UK sanctions on Russia, I didn't say anything about such sanctions. President Trump is talking about the possibility of sanctions on Russia in regards to Syria. If Russia is not threatened by anyone or anything and the world is their oyster, we'll all be that oyster in the form of cat food anyway. The Brits do have evidence, initially it was refuted in a ridiculous way by Russia, they stated something like if they wanted to kill him he'd be dead. I'll post the latest information that I found in the following post, it's another doozy. In addition, several countries have supported Britain and also expelled Russian diplomats. I can't find my "Nancy Drew kit" but something tells me there must be a lot of credibility to the story the Brits have given or all of these countries have good reason not to trust Russia either or both. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/27/rus...list-of-countries-punishing-moscow-grows.html Here's a list of countries that have announced measures against Russia: UK: Expelled 23 Russians alleged to have worked as spies under diplomatic cover. It also promised to freeze any Russian state assets that "may be used to threaten the life or property of U.K. nationals or residents." US: Expelling 60 Russians, including 12 intelligence officers from Russia's mission to the UN headquarters in New York. Closing Russian consulate in Seattle. CANADA: Expelling four Russians alleged to have worked as spies or interfered in Canadian affairs under diplomatic cover. Denying three applications for Russian diplomatic staff. FRANCE: Expelling four diplomats GERMANY: Expelling four diplomats POLAND: Expelling four diplomats ITALY: Expelling two diplomats SPAIN: Expelling two diplomats LITHUANIA: Expelling three diplomats CZECH REPUBLIC: Expelling three diplomats CROATIA: Expelling one diplomat NETHERLANDS: Expelling two diplomats DENMARK: Expelling two diplomats NORWAY: Expelling one diplomat LATVIA: Expelling one diplomat SWEDEN: Expelling one diplomat ALBANIA: Expelling two diplomats ESTONIA: Expelling one diplomat FINLAND: Expelling one diplomat HUNGARY: Expelling one diplomat UKRAINE: Expelling 13 Russian diplomats ROMANIA: Expelling one diplomat AUSTRALIA: Expelling 2 Russian diplomats, said it might boycott the soccer World Cup. It is not that I trust the leaders of the West, why would you assume that. I don't trust the Russians and you appear to either trust the Russians or have a very serious fear of them - I wonder why that would be the case. The Russian diplomats are the invited guests of their host countries, my opinion is that they can be asked to leave at any time without any reason at all. If I had enough suspicion that an invited guest in my house may have attempted to murder another invited guest you bet I would ask them to leave. If they turn around and blowup my house, well, my suspicions will have been proven correct. I may be dead but they were probably going to kill me some time down the road anyway. I have a very difficult time believing that Putin is so much more righteous than all of the leaders of the Western world as you have hinted, jackzokay. In addition, the following is occurring in Russia https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...dal-world-cup-monkey-chants-france/524903002/. It is also well known that the Olympic athletes had a much better experience in Pyeongchang then they did in Sochi. PS- I bolded everything in your original post above that I answered in my post, if I missed something please let me know. Thanks and thanks for the compliment.
Watchdog agency rejects Russian claim of second nerve agent in poisoning of former spy and his daughter By Associated Press Apr 18, 2018 | 2:55 PM | The Hague http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-britain-russia-spy-20180418-story.html Investigators set up a police tent on March 6, 2018, in Salisbury, England, near where former Russian spy Sergei Skripal was found critically ill. (Steve Parsons / Associated Press) The head of the global chemical watchdog agency on Wednesday rejected Russian claims that traces of a second nerve agent were discovered in the English city here former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned. Britain blames Russia for the attack, which it says was carried out by smearing a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok on a door handle at Skripal's house in Salisbury. Moscow denies involvement. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday that Moscow received confidential information from the laboratory in Spiez, Switzerland, that analyzed samples from the site of the March 4 poisoning. He said the analysis — done at the request of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons — indicated that samples contained BZ nerve agent and its precursor. He said that BZ was part of the chemical arsenals of the U.S., Britain and other NATO countries, and that the Soviet Union and Russia never developed the agent. OPCW Director-General Ahmet Uzumcu said at a meeting Wednesday of the organization's executive council that a BZ precursor known as 3Q "was contained in the control sample prepared by the OPCW lab in accordance with the existing quality control procedures." He added that "it has nothing to do with the samples collected by the OPCW team in Salisbury." Britain's representative to the OPCW, Ambassador Peter Wilson, slammed the Russian foreign minister's comments as a breach of the treaty outlawing chemical weapons. "The thing for me that was particularly alarming about Lavrov's statement is, first of all, the OPCW goes to enormous lengths to make sure that the identity of laboratories is confidential and, second of all, either the Russians are hacking the laboratories or they are making stuff up," he said. "Either way, that is a violation of the confidentiality of the Chemical Weapons Convention." In a summary of its report last week, the OPCW didn't name Novichok as the nerve agent used, but it confirmed "the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury." Wilson told reporters that the OPCW "confirmed that they found what we found, and that is a Novichok." Russia's representative to the OPCW, Ambassador Alexander Shulgin, repeated Moscow's denials and accused Britain of a string of lies. "For now, I will only say one thing: The claim that the Technical Secretariat confirmed that this chemical points to its Russian origin is an outright lie," he said in a statement posted on his embassy's website. "The report itself does not say a single word about the name 'Novichok'; the CWC simply does not contain such a concept." Shulgin at a later news conference accused Britain of trying to turn the executive council meeting into "a kangaroo court" and suggested that Britain could have arranged the attack on the Skripals to counter domestic tension over Britain's withdrawal from the European Union. "Perhaps the government of Theresa May, weakened by the troubles associated with Brexit, needs society to rally around this government," he said. Shulgin also said Russia wouldn't accept the results of any report on the matter unless it gets full access to investigation details, consular access to the Skripals, and participation in the investigation by Russian experts. The envoy also spent several minutes of digression on Britain's alleged "very impressive experience" of using poison abroad, including involvement in the 1916 poisoning of Rasputin, a self-styled mystic who held great influence with Czar Nicholas II's wife. The Skripals were hospitalized for weeks in critical condition. Yulia Skripal was discharged last week from Salisbury District Hospital, where her father continues to be treated. Wilson said at the meeting that London continues to believe evidence points to Russian involvement in the attempted assassination. 'We believe that only Russia had the technical means, operational experience and motive to target the Skripals," Wilson said. Wilson warned that the Chemical Weapons Convention was being undermined by a growing use of nerve agents and other poisons, mentioning the 2017 assassination in Malaysia of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's estranged half brother, in addition to the Salisbury attack and the use of poison gas in Syria and Iraq. "It is being continually violated," Wilson told reporters. He said the convention would be strengthened if all nations fully declared any stockpiles they still have. Member states are supposed to declare all their chemical weapons stocks upon joining the OPCW and destroy them. The OPCW and Russia last year celebrated the destruction of the country's final declared stocks. "Russia clearly has chemical weapons they are not declaring, and they need to do that," Wilson said.
I don't find this interaction strange. Having married a Russian woman, seeing a man kiss both cheeks of a woman in what is clearly a friendly atmosphere before the meeting started does not strike me as odd or salacious. Here's a joke to understand Russian attitudes: What do you call a Russian who is emotionally reserved? Dead.
All that concerted and united warmongering towards Russia and still not a shred of real evidence that Russia poisoned the Skripals. Like Putin said, if Russia had truly used a military grade nerve agent like Novichok on the Skripals, they would be dead not magically recovering. The Skripal case and Trump’s bombing of Syria share two key similarities: in both instances action (in once case the bombing of a sovereign nation) was taken against Russia (or her allies) without any proof that Russia was the guilty party. As the Russian ambassador so famously said recently during the UN hearing, this is straight out of Alice in Wonderland: guilty until proven guilty and is truly a sign of the times and a sign that Chastisment is coming to the warmongering and lawless West.
Earthtoangels posted a little bit about this story also but just in case it was missed... Russian journalist who covered Wagner Group mercenary deaths in Syria dies after falling from balcony Daniel Brown Apr. 15, 2018, 2:26 PM http://www.businessinsider.com/maxi...ussian-journalist-covered-wagner-group-2018-4 Screenshot of Russian soldiers in the Syrian desert. RamiroWTF/YouTube A Russian journalist who wrote about Russian mercenaries in Syria has died from injuries sustained after falling from a balcony. Maxim Borodin, 32, died at a hospital on Sunday after falling from his fifth-floor balcony in Yekaterinburg on Thursday. Borodin's death was deemed a suicide by officials. A Russian journalist who wrote about Russian mercenaries in Syria has died from injuries he sustained after falling from a balcony. Maxim Borodin, 32, died at a hospital on Sunday after falling from his fifth-floor balcony in Yekaterinburg on Thursday, according to the Associated Press and RFERL. The Associated Press reported that it was unclear how Borodin fell, but RFERL reported that officials are considering his death to be a suicide. Borodin wrote for a news website called Novy Den where he covered crime and corruption, RFERL reported. He recently helped break the story about the deaths of Russian Wagner Group mercenaries from Asbest who were killed in Syria during a fight with the US militar y in February. Borodin's editor at Novy Den, Polina Rumyantseva, said on Sunday that she doesn't believe he committed suicide, RFERL reported. Reporters Without Borders tweeted on Sunday that the circumstances of Borodin's death were "suspicious," and that they want "a thorough, impartial investigation." The Wagner Group has about 2,500 mercenaries in Syria, according to the BBC. SEE ALSO: How Russian mercenaries use secret flights to travel to Syria More: Syria Russia Wagner Group Maxim Borodin Richard, When it comes to Russia, you always have made up your mind in advance. I prefer to be cautious.
Thankyou again for your prompt reply, Carol. I have no particular fondness for Russia. I have however a particular fondness for 2 things fundamental to this incident. Firstly, THE TRUTH. There is no evidence to suggest it was Russia. None. Other than you suggesting that you are inclined to trust the British/elitist/Western government say so. The truth seems like something incidental in this scenario. It seems it doesn't matter... what is happening??? If they have evidence, show us! My God, it seems we may need Nancy Drew after all, for no one has a shread of evidence. Secondly, I LIKE BEING ALIVE. I like my children being alive. Are we going to go to war on a maybe!!!? Is this really okay? My children, indeed all the children of the world, are to die because a few British elites say russia tried to kill someone in london. And they havent even offered a shread of evidence!!! What about Saddam? He had WMDs the British said. Nope. That was a lie. A LIE! What about Gaddafi in Libya, ummm, nope! No WMD there either. This time its different. This time there's another superpower involved. You ask if I'm scared. You're damn right I am! Im afraid for my children. Im afraid for all children. This could go all the way, Carol. Only a fool wouldnt be scared. I ask again, where are the peacemakers? Where are the mediators? Who calls for restraint? The western elites fire missiles and to hell with the consequences. I am afraid, Carol. I am so very afraid.
The same Western Media that tells me that Putin has journalists killed (never any actual evidence that he does of course) are the same Western Media that tell me that Putin poisoned the Skripals and that Assad gassed his own people. Of course, by their twisted logic Assad was guilty until proven guilty (Trump bombed Assad the day before the inspectors were due in to Douma) and Putin is guilty until proven guilty. There is a reason they call it Fake News, Carol. Unfortunately for us in the West, this kind of Fake News is going to be one of primary catalysts of the coming war with Russia. How very sad, but entirely predictable given that the West is run by Freemasons who serve the Father of Lies.
Cautious? Cautious is not supporting the firing of missiles. Cautious is diplomacy. Cautious is mediation. Cautious is the seeking of peace; not vengeance or retaliation. Cautious is asking to see the evidence, then weighing that evidence against appropriate action; not the reckless abandonment of the gunslinger...
I did not like Obama. In fact I detested his policies and lack of following the rule of law. But— I will always be grateful he did not get us into Syria. To my mind it is the one good thing he did.
jackzokay, Your welcome but I am looking for answers just like you are and I know you are not seriously expecting me to answer all of these questions. I suggest that you focus on what you can control, that is all any of us can do. And again, I never stated that I trusted any of these governments. I basically stated that it appears odd that all of these countries acted with no real evidence(?) and I still don't find that the expulsion of the Russian diplomats to be that great of a concern. Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats from the US in the Fall of 2016 over concerns that our elections were hacked and we're still here well over a year later talking about the same stuff more or less. I didn't ask if you were scared, I asked if you had a serious fear of Russia. I was suggesting that although you appear to trust that Russia wouldn't be behind the poisoning of the Skripals then why would you believe that they would be capable of starting a war over the expulsion of their diplomats. jackzokay, Yes, cautious. I never stated that I supported the firing of missiles. I have been trying to understand why the missiles were shot on 4/13. You should read through all of my posts about this since 4/13 maybe even since 4/7. The other day you asked me several questions about the US/UK/Fr attack and I took the time to look for answers. I never stated that I agreed with any of this. Again, I am trying to understand why it is occurring - that is all.
Could be as fake as the gas attack but I think it might be real. Won't embed but worth 2 min Syria: Boy in White Helmets FAKE Chemical Attack Video Reveals Truth https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=115&v=WPGG3P14WWk
