The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I re-watched a video for the Fatima Center featuring Elizabeth Yore and her incredible research into the UN, Soros, and the Pope Francis pontificate. Quite an incredible presentation if you have not seen it I highly recommend watching it. At the 35:30 min mark she mentions something that I found insightful. Many of the men who have been appointed to various posts high in the Vatican like the Pontifical Academy of social sciences (PASS) were "planted" there under the pontificates of other popes. It is under Pope Francis that these men then "sprouted" and began diligently pushing their agendas in coordination with the Vatican, the UN, and the political campaign of HRC in the US.

    Among these various campaigns have been climate change, and always ultimately the central theme of population control.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-having-babies-bioethicist-travis-rieder-says

    I find it very telling that population control is always, always, always the lynch pin of the enemy. This agenda has been in place from the very beginning. Let us all redouble our efforts in prayer for the Holy Father Pope Francis, Pope Benedict, and all Bishops and Priests of the Holy Mother Church.



    From the Alta Vendita;

    [​IMG]“We do not intend to win the Popes to our cause, to make them neophytes of our principles, propagators of our ideas. That would be a ridiculous dream; and if events turn out in some way, if Cardinals or prelates, for example, of their own free will or by surprise, should enter into a part of our secrets, this is not at all an incentive for desiring their elevation to the See of Peter. That elevation would ruin us. Ambition alone would have led them to apostasy, the requirements of power would force them to sacrifice us. What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a Pope according to our needs.

    “With that we shall march more securely towards the assault on the Church than with the pamphlets of our brethren in France and even the gold of England. Do you want to know the reason for this? It is that with this, in order to shatter the high rock on which God built His Church, we no longer need Hannibalian vinegar, or need gunpowder, or even need our arms. We have the little finger of the Successor of Peter engaged in the ploy, and this little finger is as good, for this crusade, as all the Urban IIs and all the St. Bernards in Christendom.

    “Now then, to assure ourselves of a Pope of the required dimensions, it is a question first of shaping for this pope a generation worthy of the reign we are dreaming of. Leave old people and those of mature age aside; go to the youth, and if it is possible, even to the children.”
     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thanks so much
    I am praying for the Irish neighbors as well
    I surely appreciate it
     
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  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thanks Don
    Let’s keep the Alta Vendita in the forefront of our awareness and prayers
     
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  4. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Wow. Chilling!
     
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  6. Article isn't exactly the most fair and balanced one on the topic I've read but they do seem to wish to control the message.

    Vatican Cracks Down on Critics of Pope Francis


    The Vatican has taken new measures to punish critics of Pope Francis in a move that seems to belie the pope’s earlier calls for greater dialogue and debate within the Church.

    On Thursday, the Rome-based Sovereign Order of Malta, which reports directly to the Holy See, suspended historian Henry Sire after he was revealed to be the author of the bestselling book The Dictator Pope: The Inside Story of the Francis Papacy, a critical examination of the pontificate of Pope Francis.

    Meanwhile the Vatican has hired the international law firm of Baker McKenzie to force a small Spanish website called InfoVaticana.com to close its doors, allegedly for its sometimes critical tone toward aspects of the Francis papacy. The firm recently threatened a lawsuit if Infovaticana isn’t shut down and “its internet domain transferred to the Vatican.”

    The Order of Malta announced its decision Wednesday to suspend the British historian Henry Sire, a member of the order, calling his book a “vile attack” on Pope Francis.

    “Following the press articles reporting the name of the author of the book ‘The Dictator Pope’ the Grand Magistry of the Order of Malta has taken the decision to suspend Henry Sire, author of the book and member of the Order of Malta. The provisional suspension from membership has immediate effect and an investigation is being launched,” it said in a statement.

    .........
    Unfortunately for the Vatican, the immediate suspension of Sire from the Order of Malta will play as a confirmation of the author’s allegations that under Francis the Holy See deals swiftly and ruthlessly to eliminate those it views as enemies.

    Attacks on Infovaticana.org have seemed to follow a similar pattern.

    As the Associated Press (AP) reported, many commercial websites use the Vatican name, and yet the only one that has come under fire from the Holy See has been infovaticana, which would seem to confirm statements by the website’s founder, Gabriel Ariza, that the Vatican is deliberately targeting his site because of disagreement with its content. Ariza has called the Vatican’s measures a “political witch hunt.”

    MORE:
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/03/23/vatican-cracks-critics-pope-francis/
     
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  7. Denise P

    Denise P Archangels

    Oh, I hope they don’t find out he is still in time out at my house
     
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  8. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    oh Dear. More to pray about.
     
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  10. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Dissent is the first thing autocrats clamp down on. They desire complete control and to destroy all opposition.

    This brings to mind a quote that is often attributed to Genghis Khan about what is best in life. He said it was:
    "To crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet..."

    This in turn brought another quote of his to mind that seems particularly poignant today:
    "O people, know that you have committed great sins, and that the great ones among you have committed these sins. If you ask me what proof I have for these words, I say it is because I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."

    For a barbarian and a non-Christian he certainly had some very wise insights.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    What!? You mean he wasn't immediately offered another job?
     
  12. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That last sentence is chilling...truly chilling. May the Lord God have mercy on us all.
     
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  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    And on that note....

    Pope at Pre-Synodal Meeting: Young people must be taken seriously 3/19/2018
    http://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2018-03/pope-at-pre-synodal-meeting-on-youth--young-people-must-be-taken.html

    Some photos...

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    Pope Francis sits among youths for a group photo during the opening session of the pre-synod of the youths
    meeting, at the Mater Ecclesiae college in Rome, Monday, March 19, 2018. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino)



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    Pope Francis sits among youths for a group photo during the opening session of the pre-synod of the youths
    meeting, at the Mater Ecclesiae college in Rome, Monday, March 19, 2018. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino)


    http://www.nydailynews.com/newswire...ndemns-prostitution-torture-article-1.3883511

    PS- They really don't look like youths, imho, more like older millennials.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Actually, the vast majority of those in the photographs look quite respectable. There are even several nuns who, believe it or not, look like...nuns.
     
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  16. AidanK

    AidanK A great sinner

    The St Michael prayer is said after every SSPX Mass
     
  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    And what happens if they suggest the Latin rite, alter rails and ad orientum? :)
     
  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    My parish is not SSPX but we say it as well.
     
  19. Not a very respectful headline but this is another opinion of what the world is having to hear coming out of Rome. If only the young people actually knew what they were doing and not just be easily controlled (re-educated) by the adults of the left who don't permit other voices of youth that don't necessarily agree also have a say. Instead they are shamed and humiliated....as well as terrorized to use their voices equally:

    Commie Pope Red Francis Urges Kids to Keep Shouting for Social Change

    What’s with this guy?
    He sounds more like a Democrat-Socialist than the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.


    Pope Francis told the children of the world to “keep shouting”and not allow adults to silence them.
    Seriously?

    Two liberal students from Parkland school district were in attendance today at the Pope’s Palm Sunday sermon.


    Reuters reported:

    Pope Francis, starting Holy Week services leading to Easter, urged young people on Sunday to keep shouting and not allow the older generations to silence their voices or anesthetize their idealism.

    Francis spoke a day after hundreds of thousands of young Americans and their supporters answered a call to action from survivors of last month’s Florida high school massacre and rallied across the United States to demand tighter gun laws.

    He did not mention the demonstrations. Catholic News Service (CNS) said Gabriella Zuniga, 16, and her sister Valentina, 15, both students from Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, where 17 people were killed in February, attended the service with their parents.

    CNS posted a photo of the two holding up signs in St. Peter’s Square, with one reading, “Protect Our Children, Not Our Guns.”

    The 81-year-old Francis led a long and solemn Palm Sunday service before tens of thousands in the square, many of them young people there for the Catholic Church’s World Day of Youth.


    ✔@Newsweek


    “Young people, you have it in you to shout." Pope Francis encourages March For Our Lives protestors to continue speaking out. http://bit.ly/2IR3pwB

    1:30 PM - Mar 25, 2018

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...rges-kids-to-keep-shouting-for-social-change/

    Again, is this another moment of being confused at just what the Pope "really" meant....adding to the others??
     
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  20. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    The Vatican should print a bumper sticker:

    Every opinion will be valued...as long as it is in agreement with ours.
     

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